Quote from: RPGPunditThis isn't a "new edition". There's never been a Warhammer 40K RPG. As I'm fairly confident this game will suck ass, I have now been cheated of the chance to play WH40k, or at least play it the way I wanted to play.
 
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If you know how you want to play WH40k as an RPG, why do you care what someone else puts out?
 
YOU already know what YOU want to play, so tell your friends how and go play it!

I have to wonder how they'll handle the Space Marine side of things.  KrakaJak's dead on about the power level of your average Marine; there's blessed little that can stand xeno-to-Marine and live to tell the tale (Genestealers, a few of the Tyranid variations, Striking Scorpion Aspect Warriors and Ork Nobz are all that come to mind.)

A Space Marine campaign would have to center around some of the more "interesting" (read: twinked the fuck out) chapters like the Dark Angels or the Space Wolves.  The Space Wolves, in particular, would be pretty damn sweet: Viking berserkers on a planet full of werewolves going on crusades against sanity-blasting demon armies.

Codex standard chapters give their brothers something like fifteen minutes of downtime daily, so roleplaying them would be difficult at best.

Quote from: fonkaygarryhe Space Wolves, in particular, would be pretty damn sweet: Viking berserkers on a planet full of werewolves going on crusades against sanity-blasting demon armies.

While drunk off their asses on monkish ale!

You know, that's a pretty nice life those Space Marines lead.  

EDIT: There's a microbrew in there somewhere: Leman Russ Ale, Fang Smoked Porter, Ulrich the Slayer's Special Pale...

Quote from: Mr. AnalyticalYet again, I'm seemingly the only person bothered by the idea of playing a tool of state oppression.

Well don't look at me on reading Mage:the Awakening, I was certain that the Technocracy were the good guys and the Traditions were dangerous ludites that wanted to return us to the dark ages, even with all the pro-traditions propoganda in that book.

Has it ever occured to you that occasionally the state might have your best interests at heart, and you might need oppressing, to avoid anarchy and demonic influence?

Quote from: obrynWell, IMHO it's about on a level with playing a tomb-robbing, corpse-looting, temple-desecrating killer.

-O

When did this turn into a conversation about Archaeology?

Quote from: AosWhen did this turn into a conversation about Archaeology?

 D&D... archaeology...  Yeah, I see a strong connection.

-O

Quote from: Mr. AnalyticalI really wouldn't be interested in playing that kind of character.  It's a lose-lose situation... do your job and the fascists tighten their grip on the universe, don't do it and people die.  Lovely.

It's like that french fantasy RPG Prophecy.  Yet again, I'm seemingly the only person bothered by the idea of playing a tool of state oppression.

Actually that's the great thing about the 40k universe. I mean my 40K lore may be out of date -but aren't psychics fed to the emperor on a daily basis because he needs sustenance when stalking the chaos void or something? - I mean, that's the draw right ? That there are things out there in the dark worse that a fascist regime.

I remember reading about the Horus Heresy in WD and the emperor's battle with Horus, his most trusted of warriors.Loyalty, demonic possesion, epic space battles in gothic looking ships..... good stuff. I mean, there is evil out there but a different kind of evil is needed to fight it....wait a minute I'm losing the plot here

Regards,
David R

Warhammer 40k is the logical outcrop of two british fascinations for subjects:

Nazis & Empire

Quote from: David RActually that's the great thing about the 40k universe. I mean my 40K lore may be out of date -but aren't psychics fed to the emperor on a daily basis because he needs sustenance when stalking the chaos void or something? - I mean, that's the draw right ? That there are things out there in the dark worse that a fascist regime.

Actually, if I remember right they sacrifice the psychics to maintain the Astronomican, the psychic beacon that allows the Navigator's Guild to calculate safe Warp jumps in Imperial space.

Rather swiped from Dune in some ways on that one, but it's what makes all navigation possible for the Empire.

[fanboy]The descriptions used for that bit of fluff also imply that it's the psychic energy from these sacrifices that fuels the Golden Throne of Life.  It's just an implication, tho (like everything else in RT.)[/fanboy]

EDIT:  I think what I liked the most about 40K, what got its hooks into me, was that it was a pastiche of every good bit of scifi out there that I was just too lazy to read.  All those cool bits just got blended together and blew my fucking mind the way such things do when you're twelve.

I've kind of been out of the whole 40K scene since the mid 90's - maybe even earlier - are there any sites out there that could give me a rundown on the recent developments of the setting...maybe even a recap of what went on before ?

Regards,
David R

Quote from: hgjsOn an unrelated side-note, has anything Gamist ever come out of the Forge?

Quote from: BalbinusDonjon.

Huh. I didn't see it when I read Donjon; is this the consensus/designer's statement?

Because if so, I clearly understand the concept of Gamism even less than I thought I did.

Quote from: Christmas ApeHuh. I didn't see it when I read Donjon; is this the consensus/designer's statement?

Because if so, I clearly understand the concept of Gamism even less than I thought I did.

I believe so, but out of all Clinton's work Donjon interests me least so whether it is a good gamist game or not (and I don't recognise gamism as a real thing to be blunt that actually exists in the world) I can't comment.

Quote from: David RActually that's the great thing about the 40k universe. I mean my 40K lore may be out of date -but aren't psychics fed to the emperor on a daily basis because he needs sustenance when stalking the chaos void or something? - I mean, that's the draw right ? That there are things out there in the dark worse that a fascist regime.

I remember reading about the Horus Heresy in WD and the emperor's battle with Horus, his most trusted of warriors.Loyalty, demonic possesion, epic space battles in gothic looking ships..... good stuff. I mean, there is evil out there but a different kind of evil is needed to fight it....wait a minute I'm losing the plot here

Regards,
David R

Ok, there are several ways that psykers get it up the ass in the 40k universe.


-Untrainable, weak or uncontrollable psykers  are fed to the emperor at the rate of like "1000 a day" to feed him and keep him in his deathless state. They are fed into the machinery at the base of the golden throne where their life forces is agonizingly leeched away to sustain the emperor.

-Many psykers are 'soul bonded' to the emperor if they are judged fit, and these become the chorus that broadcasts the astronavicom. The emperor doesn't create the warp beacon, he coordinates the psyker chorus that generates it and serves as a focus for their efforts.

-Better grade psykers are often trained to be inquisitors, inquisitor assistants, assassins, primarius military field psykers, etc. if they are adjucated to be worthy.