I like to imagine that online games have weeded on the people from pnp games who weren't very well suited to pnp games in the first place. I mean, if WoW vanished tomorrow, would you really want to include a bunch of people in your group who you know would rather be off playing online video games, and consider pnp games to be a poor substitute for their real favorite?

Quote from: Name LipsI like to imagine that online games have weeded on the people from pnp games who weren't very well suited to pnp games in the first place. I mean, if WoW vanished tomorrow, would you really want to include a bunch of people in your group who you know would rather be off playing online video games, and consider pnp games to be a poor substitute for their real favorite?

Ugh.  I shudder at the thought.  That would so completely suck.  There'd be nothing worse that trying to run a quest set up and hearing complaining about when the killing is going to start and where they have to go to get epic gear!  Not that I think all ex-MMO players would be that way, but I don't doubt for a second that it would crop up.

Quote from: Name LipsI like to imagine that online games have weeded on the people from pnp games who weren't very well suited to pnp games in the first place. I mean, if WoW vanished tomorrow, would you really want to include a bunch of people in your group who you know would rather be off playing online video games, and consider pnp games to be a poor substitute for their real favorite?

Don't be elitest now, there are a lot of people who do both, or got tired of issues from table top or situations arose that the Computer games were a viable alternative.  Table top is no way "superior," just a different venue.  Shouldn't comment on one person in one thread for being elitest then go and do the very same to others.

Quote from: kanegrundarUgh.  I shudder at the thought.  That would so completely suck.  There'd be nothing worse that trying to run a quest set up and hearing complaining about when the killing is going to start and where they have to go to get epic gear!  Not that I think all ex-MMO players would be that way, but I don't doubt for a second that it would crop up.

Is it really different then the hack-n-slasher gamer, the ones wanting their +5 swords at 9th level or the ones that use the Deities and Demigods book as a monster book.

Quote from: Phantom StrangerDon't be elitest now, there are a lot of people who do both, or got tired of issues from table top or situations arose that the Computer games were a viable alternative.  Table top is no way "superior," just a different venue.

Yeah, but if online gamers have abandonded their pnp groups to play online games more, and then come slinking back when their game goes away, then I'm a little peeved.

Quote from: Name LipsYeah, but if online gamers have abandonded their pnp groups to play online games more, and then come slinking back when their game goes away, then I'm a little peeved.

It's really no different then not table top gaming for any other reason, from having a new girlfriend to school to getting a job, it's just doing something different.  Shouldn't matter what the "different," thing is.  It happened when Magic came out as well.

i've known people who started gaming on CRPGs, and then moved to PNP RPGs (or at least split their time) because they heard about all the other cool stuff you can't (yet) do in a CRPG.  

in fact, i think at least two people in my usual group are like that...

Luddites! :muttering:

Quote from: Levi KornelsenWhat is this "find" you speak of?

Find, nothing.  Make new gamers.

I did, but he's only six months old right now, so I need others to play with until he ages a bit

Honestly, with a wife and a six month old and a dog who seems to insist on getting hit by cars and a job and a campaign or two I'm trying to put together with the guys I game with now, I don't have a whole lotta time to make new gamers. I do value your suggestion though, and I would one day like to sponsor and run a game for young ones. In the late 70s when I was just a young'un I was introduced to my first true gaming group (and, believe it or not, my first fantasy computer game on an old apple) at the local Boy's Club of America center by what I thought at the time was an old guy (late 20s), and he used to run us through the greatest adventures (like the original Hidden Shrine of the Tamoachen). I'd like to do that for a group of kids too one of these days, even if it's just my son and his buds. So I guess I can say, "Workin' on it."

Quote from: BagpussLuddites! :muttering:

:talktothehand:

Quote from: SigmundI did, but he's only six months old right now, so I need others to play with until he ages a bit

Honestly, with a wife and a six month old and a dog who seems to insist on getting hit by cars and a job and a campaign or two I'm trying to put together with the guys I game with now, I don't have a whole lotta time to make new gamers. I do value your suggestion though, and I would one day like to sponsor and run a game for young ones. In the late 70s when I was just a young'un I was introduced to my first true gaming group (and, believe it or not, my first fantasy computer game on an old apple) at the local Boy's Club of America center by what I thought at the time was an old guy (late 20s), and he used to run us through the greatest adventures (like the original Hidden Shrine of the Tamoachen). I'd like to do that for a group of kids too one of these days, even if it's just my son and his buds. So I guess I can say, "Workin' on it."

And as you grow older, you don't have as many opportunities to do things like you mention.  I tend to have so many irons in the fire I can never seem to know which one to pull out.

This reminds me of why I really like the new (well 2004) D&D Basic Game boxed set.  Grab a few people, plop it down and begin.  Add in a D&D Book for Dummies and you have a nice foundation for a beginning Gamemaster and group of players to get a start.  

A lot of the old guard get really elitest and superior as age sets in.

Quote from: Phantom StrangerIs it really different then the hack-n-slasher gamer, the ones wanting their +5 swords at 9th level or the ones that use the Deities and Demigods book as a monster book.

The main difference is in my hack and slash games there's at least a bit of story/roleplaying before and after the slaughter.  Not everyone runs a campaign like that either.

At any rate, I wouldn't expect that to come up much, if ever, but I *could* see it happening to some groups.  Outside occurance at any rate.

Quote from: King_StannisDo you guys ever envision a time when people can use videoconferencing/webcam technology to routinely game with people around the country or the world? Being a technological dunce I have no idea how far we are away from the days when we can push a button and get a good clear picture and ungarbled sound.

Well, my MMORPGing friends already use enhancements like teamspeak and have online groups... so it seems to me that some evolution could occur the other direction, with electronic games evolving back towards the social model of their parents.

I game with people aroung the world. I reside in Southern California, four players are in Tennesee, as is the DM, and two more players yet reside in England. We use IRC as our chat client and when things get tricky about manuevering, we fire up a webcam on the battle mat the DM uses to move minis around for combat. Most of the time however, he just puts up a screen shot of the battlemat on his website that we check after each round.

It's quite a blast to play in. With technology getting better, I can only see it going up.

Quote from: ergeheilaltI game with people aroung the world. I reside in Southern California, four players are in Tennesee, as is the DM, and two more players yet reside in England. We use IRC as our chat client and when things get tricky about manuevering, we fire up a webcam on the battle mat the DM uses to move minis around for combat. Most of the time however, he just puts up a screen shot of the battlemat on his website that we check after each round.

It's quite a blast to play in. With technology getting better, I can only see it going up.

That sounds pretty cool. I'd like to see a set-up like that sometime.

As an aside, where-abouts are your TN friends from? I live south of Knoxville myself