Quote from: FingerRod on July 29, 2022, 01:31:28 PM
If you can tell by a trailer that a movie is going to be good, you see things I don't. I have been duped into terrible movies by great trailers countless times.

It's almost impossible to tell for sure if a movie will be good from a trailer, BUT the trailer alone is often enough to tell if it's going to be bad.

The trailer looks fun and it doesn't make me think it'll be bad. Definitely worth keeping an eye out for, but I won't be super shocked if it ends up being sub-par either.

The impression I got from this trailer is that this is going to be just a popcorn flick. Potentially fun, but probably forgettable, and hopefully (likely?) not as terrible as other D&D films.

But trailers can lie, and they rarely (never?) make a film look worse than it is. And this doesn't look like it's going to have a spectacular story. Just mindless fun at best.

Quote from: Mistwell on July 29, 2022, 03:01:45 PM
To which GeekyBugle replied:

Quote from: GeekyBugle on July 22, 2022, 10:17:50 PM

Greetings hermano, well put!

I saw the trailer, let me tell you about it:

The only white (and lets be honest, he's straight) male on the good guy's side is an incompetent bufoon, constantly outshined by everybody and emasculated by the stunning and brave stronk independent wahmen who don't need no fish.

Yeah, it's also a hard pass from me. There was a time when I could overlook that because there were other stuff where it balanced out, now? They can get bent.

To me, that looked pretty racist. But, after repeated opportunities for GeekyBugle to clarify that position, he won't.

He's obviously not racist, and it's hard to believe you genuinely think he is and aren't just trolling him (very successfully). This isn't like the spat BedrockBrendan had with me years ago, where he good-faith (but mistakenly) associated stuff I'd said with stuff people he knew had said from racist motivations. I think you came up with "I think your statement is racist, so you're racist - prove you're not" in order to annoy & upset him, not from any genuine belief.

Quote from: Zelen on July 29, 2022, 08:32:15 PM
Shad/Shadiversity has the perfect reaction to the flying sword: https://odysee.com/@Shadiversity:d/they-did-it-again-!-!-dungeons-and:9

Legion of Myth guys not impressed either: https://odysee.com/@legionofmyth:c/98-2-d-d-movie-trailer-reaction-is:0

Yeah, wasn't a fan of it in "The Sword and the Sorcerer" back in '82, and it doesn't seem any cooler now.

Quote from: Zelen on July 29, 2022, 08:32:15 PM
Shad/Shadiversity has the perfect reaction to the flying sword: https://odysee.com/@Shadiversity:d/they-did-it-again-!-!-dungeons-and:9

Legion of Myth guys not impressed either: https://odysee.com/@legionofmyth:c/98-2-d-d-movie-trailer-reaction-is:0

In defense, Shad is very hard on fantasy depictions of weaponry.

Quote from: Longshadow on July 30, 2022, 08:23:38 AM

Quote from: Zelen on July 29, 2022, 08:32:15 PM
Shad/Shadiversity has the perfect reaction to the flying sword: https://odysee.com/@Shadiversity:d/they-did-it-again-!-!-dungeons-and:9

Legion of Myth guys not impressed either: https://odysee.com/@legionofmyth:c/98-2-d-d-movie-trailer-reaction-is:0

Yeah, wasn't a fan of it in "The Sword and the Sorcerer" back in '82, and it doesn't seem any cooler now.

I loved "The Sword and the Sorceror." It was so cool that I bought a copy.

Quote from: Ghostmaker on July 30, 2022, 09:43:11 AM

Quote from: Zelen on July 29, 2022, 08:32:15 PM
Shad/Shadiversity has the perfect reaction to the flying sword: https://odysee.com/@Shadiversity:d/they-did-it-again-!-!-dungeons-and:9

Legion of Myth guys not impressed either: https://odysee.com/@legionofmyth:c/98-2-d-d-movie-trailer-reaction-is:0

In defense, Shad is very hard on fantasy depictions of weaponry.

He's right about the flying sword, though. It's just silly on every level, and doesn't even look cool. At least the ridiculous, over-large barbarian great axe gets by on cool factor. But what function does shooting your sword blade and being left with a tiny dirk even accomplish? That isn't even a D&D thing. It looks shoehorned in.

Seems like no-one is going to enjoy watching the D&D film https://kotaku.com/dnd-movie-honor-among-thieves-trailer-marvel-1849345237

Quote from: ponta1010 on July 30, 2022, 06:45:38 PM
Seems like no-one is going to enjoy watching the D&D film https://kotaku.com/dnd-movie-honor-among-thieves-trailer-marvel-1849345237

  Well, "D&D is special because we can make it about us" is definitely a take on the hobby. I'm not certain it's right, wrong, or both...

Quote from: ponta1010 on July 30, 2022, 06:45:38 PM
Seems like no-one is going to enjoy watching the D&D film https://kotaku.com/dnd-movie-honor-among-thieves-trailer-marvel-1849345237

Now that Wokaku is skeptic I have more hopes for this movie.

Quote from: Charon's Little Helper on July 29, 2022, 11:34:29 PM
It's almost impossible to tell for sure if a movie will be good from a trailer, BUT the trailer alone is often enough to tell if it's going to be bad.s up being sub-par either.

I have to remind people of the fact that the Phantom Menace trailer was probably one of the best one and a half minutes of film of the last 20+ years.

And then we saw the movie.

They should have hired Home Free to do the sound track.  I'm sure they'd be willing to work as extras, too:  Home Free - Brother.

To do "goofy" right, you've first got to love the source material, not make your first move to deconstruct it.

Quote from: BronzeDragon on July 31, 2022, 07:13:05 AM

Quote from: Charon's Little Helper on July 29, 2022, 11:34:29 PM
It's almost impossible to tell for sure if a movie will be good from a trailer, BUT the trailer alone is often enough to tell if it's going to be bad.s up being sub-par either.

I have to remind people of the fact that the Phantom Menace trailer was probably one of the best one and a half minutes of film of the last 20+ years.

And then we saw the movie.

One fact that almost everyone agrees with regarding the Prequels, today, is that the plot itself was very good. Back then the idea that "a Star Wars plot revolved around a commercial dispute" was derided but, once you see the whole story, it is clear that Lucas had a tale to tell.

The Prequels failed in everything else: plot development (the way the plot was told redefined the concept of plot hole), atrocious dialogue, casting, the choice to do everything with CG, spaceship designs, actors' direction (only Ian McDiarmid was good as Palpatine and I guess that, given his background, he directed himself), you name it. But the plot was sound and the trailer was about the plot.

The trailer for this D&D movie has, IMHO, a merit: it makes you understand what they want to do and the overall idea of the plot. Let's say that I'm fine with their approach, I just hope that they will pull it off.

Quote from: Reckall on July 31, 2022, 09:02:24 AM
One fact that almost everyone agrees with regarding the Prequels, today, is that the plot itself was very good. Back then the idea that "a Star Wars plot revolved around a commercial dispute" was derided but, once you see the whole story, it is clear that Lucas had a tale to tell.

The Prequels failed in everything else: plot development (the way the plot was told redefined the concept of plot hole), atrocious dialogue, casting, the choice to do everything with CG, spaceship designs, actors' direction (only Ian McDiarmid was good as Palpatine and I guess that, given his background, he directed himself), you name it. But the plot was sound and the trailer was about the plot.

Yes, the underlying story Lucas wanted to tell was perfectly fine. Basically a greek tragedy.

In hindsight it is obvious that he needed a "No" man around to curb some of his other "artistic" tendencies...

The original trilogy benefitted from the fact that Lucas was restrained in several aspects of what he could do. Dedicated and talented script writers to flesh out his story ideas, directors that could bring his vision to the screen. And budget restrictions that meant they had to get creative with all the above to be able to tell the story well within their means.

For the prequels, Lucas had none of that. He was too damn rich. He financed it himself, and did whatever he wanted with no restraining hand to dial back any misguided decisions.

If he had followed the same approach use for the first three films the prequels would have been a much higher quality in the end.

Luckily for Lucas the prequels were redeemed by the pedomouse trilogy...

Quote from: Reckall on July 31, 2022, 09:02:24 AM
The trailer for this D&D movie has, IMHO, a merit: it makes you understand what they want to do and the overall idea of the plot. Let's say that I'm fine with their approach, I just hope that they will pull it off.

Well, this remains to be seen...

I'm really kind 'meh' on the movie.

In my opinion it looks exactly like a reflection of how current year 5e D&D is presented by WotC and live pay streamers.

Probably a few too many human race "PC's" in the group; But they do have to try and sell it to the normies, so concessions must be made.

It's really the D&D ignorant normie audience that they need to pull into the theaters for the film to be a real success. I'm not sure what the budget is, just going by the trailer it doesn't look lie they really cheaped out on anything, so it will have to do fairly well to get into the black.

To be fair, making a D&D movie is an extremely dicey proposition.

If you make a Dragonlance Chronicles attempt, people will tar it for "ripping off LotR!".

If you make a sober "realistic" piece with limited fantastical stuff, people will tear it apart for "ripping off GoT!" and the fans will rip it for toning down the magic that would set it apart.

If you do what they seem to be doing and keep it lighthearted and semi-gonzo, you risk being too silly for anyone to truly enjoy, or not silly enough and run into tone issues.

All in all, it's a daunting task.