What's up with the underwater tuba guy?

Quote from: Aglondir on September 03, 2021, 01:41:52 PM
What's up with the underwater tuba guy?

I kind of assumed that that is a dig at "sO rAnDoM!" characters and the people who claim that expecting any level of system mastery is gatekeeping.

The Chronic Fatigue Barbarian would make for a great villain in a comic book, supers game... He/She would be like an evil Professor Xavier.

Quote from: jhkim on September 03, 2021, 10:47:20 AM

Quote from: RPGPundit on September 03, 2021, 10:13:38 AM

Quote from: jhkim on September 03, 2021, 02:12:26 AM
OK, I haven't seen the video, but as far as I can see, this is a free writeup that someone put on their Google Drive -- and you're calling that a "real" class? That's not even third party published - and commercial published works have classes ranging from the clown to the pest controller to the ghetto fighter and mouseburglar.

But I guess the point is to get all outraged that such a thing could appear anywhere.

Given that this "someone" got their original wheelchair added to official D&D, what makes you think they won't do the same with the update, including the Chronic Fatigue Barbarian? Especially since if they don't now, the SJWs will accuse the WoTC of bigotry?

If Thompson got her original combat wheelchair added to official D&D, then yes, I would be wrong. Can you give a link or reference that the original combat wheelchair was added to official D&D?

The wheelchair is in Candlekeep, and EVERY dungeon for official D&D from Candlekeep onwards has been wheelchair-accessible. Also, every D&D product from candlekeep onward has featured the wheelchair in art.

The official D&D online show/game Idle Champions of the Forgotten Realms has a paid employee they call a "player" acting out a PC in a combat wheelchair.
Incidentally Critical Role (which unlike ICFR is not official D&D, but is the biggest of all the Fake-online-game shows) has used the wheelchair too.

Strata Miniatures has made Combat wheelchair miniatures.

Sara Thompson, creator of the wheelchair, has appeared in multiple shows created by Wizards, where she was treated as the most important person in gaming ever, and was also a special guest panelist at D&D Celebration.

Every single establishment "game urinalist" website (polygon, nerdist, etc etc) made articles about how important the wheelchair is and how evil and completely misguided anyone who has the slightest doubt about the wheelchair must be.

Isn't there a new book on the DMs Guild all about the combat wheelchair, with new subclasses for each of the D&D classes?

Quote from: RebelSky on September 03, 2021, 04:38:08 PM
Isn't there a new book on the DMs Guild all about the combat wheelchair, with new subclasses for each of the D&D classes?

Yes (though not on the DMs Guild site, because sara thompson is trying to show off how much of a communist she is). And yes, the Chronic Fatigue Barbarian is one of those subclasses.

Quote from: RPGPundit on September 03, 2021, 04:35:00 PM

Quote from: jhkim on September 03, 2021, 10:47:20 AM

Quote from: RPGPundit on September 03, 2021, 10:13:38 AM

Quote from: jhkim on September 03, 2021, 02:12:26 AM
OK, I haven't seen the video, but as far as I can see, this is a free writeup that someone put on their Google Drive -- and you're calling that a "real" class? That's not even third party published - and commercial published works have classes ranging from the clown to the pest controller to the ghetto fighter and mouseburglar.

But I guess the point is to get all outraged that such a thing could appear anywhere.

Given that this "someone" got their original wheelchair added to official D&D, what makes you think they won't do the same with the update, including the Chronic Fatigue Barbarian? Especially since if they don't now, the SJWs will accuse the WoTC of bigotry?

If Thompson got her original combat wheelchair added to official D&D, then yes, I would be wrong. Can you give a link or reference that the original combat wheelchair was added to official D&D?

The wheelchair is in Candlekeep, and EVERY dungeon for official D&D from Candlekeep onwards has been wheelchair-accessible. Also, every D&D product from candlekeep onward has featured the wheelchair in art.

The official D&D online show/game Idle Champions of the Forgotten Realms has a paid employee they call a "player" acting out a PC in a combat wheelchair.
Incidentally Critical Role (which unlike ICFR is not official D&D, but is the biggest of all the Fake-online-game shows) has used the wheelchair too.

Strata Miniatures has made Combat wheelchair miniatures.

Sara Thompson, creator of the wheelchair, has appeared in multiple shows created by Wizards, where she was treated as the most important person in gaming ever, and was also a special guest panelist at D&D Celebration.

Every single establishment "game urinalist" website (polygon, nerdist, etc etc) made articles about how important the wheelchair is and how evil and completely misguided anyone who has the slightest doubt about the wheelchair must be.

So her impact on 5e now exceeds yours? 

What kind of mental retard would make a Chronic Fatigue Barbarian?



It obviously should be a Chronic Fatigue Wizard.

Quote from: HappyDaze on September 03, 2021, 05:17:34 PM

Quote from: RPGPundit on September 03, 2021, 04:35:00 PM

Quote from: jhkim on September 03, 2021, 10:47:20 AM

Quote from: RPGPundit on September 03, 2021, 10:13:38 AM

Quote from: jhkim on September 03, 2021, 02:12:26 AM
OK, I haven't seen the video, but as far as I can see, this is a free writeup that someone put on their Google Drive -- and you're calling that a "real" class? That's not even third party published - and commercial published works have classes ranging from the clown to the pest controller to the ghetto fighter and mouseburglar.

But I guess the point is to get all outraged that such a thing could appear anywhere.

Given that this "someone" got their original wheelchair added to official D&D, what makes you think they won't do the same with the update, including the Chronic Fatigue Barbarian? Especially since if they don't now, the SJWs will accuse the WoTC of bigotry?

If Thompson got her original combat wheelchair added to official D&D, then yes, I would be wrong. Can you give a link or reference that the original combat wheelchair was added to official D&D?

The wheelchair is in Candlekeep, and EVERY dungeon for official D&D from Candlekeep onwards has been wheelchair-accessible. Also, every D&D product from candlekeep onward has featured the wheelchair in art.

The official D&D online show/game Idle Champions of the Forgotten Realms has a paid employee they call a "player" acting out a PC in a combat wheelchair.
Incidentally Critical Role (which unlike ICFR is not official D&D, but is the biggest of all the Fake-online-game shows) has used the wheelchair too.

Strata Miniatures has made Combat wheelchair miniatures.

Sara Thompson, creator of the wheelchair, has appeared in multiple shows created by Wizards, where she was treated as the most important person in gaming ever, and was also a special guest panelist at D&D Celebration.

Every single establishment "game urinalist" website (polygon, nerdist, etc etc) made articles about how important the wheelchair is and how evil and completely misguided anyone who has the slightest doubt about the wheelchair must be.

So her impact on 5e now exceeds yours? 

No, that will probably happen when she's part of the Super Diversity Team that is hired to design 6e.

But it's very clear that the original vision that Mike Mearls and I had for 5e, which had a good run and lasted longer than the original intent for earlier editions, is becoming more and more distorted.

Quote from: RPGPundit on September 03, 2021, 05:30:13 PM

Quote from: HappyDaze on September 03, 2021, 05:17:34 PM

Quote from: RPGPundit on September 03, 2021, 04:35:00 PM

Quote from: jhkim on September 03, 2021, 10:47:20 AM

Quote from: RPGPundit on September 03, 2021, 10:13:38 AM

Quote from: jhkim on September 03, 2021, 02:12:26 AM
OK, I haven't seen the video, but as far as I can see, this is a free writeup that someone put on their Google Drive -- and you're calling that a "real" class? That's not even third party published - and commercial published works have classes ranging from the clown to the pest controller to the ghetto fighter and mouseburglar.

But I guess the point is to get all outraged that such a thing could appear anywhere.

Given that this "someone" got their original wheelchair added to official D&D, what makes you think they won't do the same with the update, including the Chronic Fatigue Barbarian? Especially since if they don't now, the SJWs will accuse the WoTC of bigotry?

If Thompson got her original combat wheelchair added to official D&D, then yes, I would be wrong. Can you give a link or reference that the original combat wheelchair was added to official D&D?

The wheelchair is in Candlekeep, and EVERY dungeon for official D&D from Candlekeep onwards has been wheelchair-accessible. Also, every D&D product from candlekeep onward has featured the wheelchair in art.

The official D&D online show/game Idle Champions of the Forgotten Realms has a paid employee they call a "player" acting out a PC in a combat wheelchair.
Incidentally Critical Role (which unlike ICFR is not official D&D, but is the biggest of all the Fake-online-game shows) has used the wheelchair too.

Strata Miniatures has made Combat wheelchair miniatures.

Sara Thompson, creator of the wheelchair, has appeared in multiple shows created by Wizards, where she was treated as the most important person in gaming ever, and was also a special guest panelist at D&D Celebration.

Every single establishment "game urinalist" website (polygon, nerdist, etc etc) made articles about how important the wheelchair is and how evil and completely misguided anyone who has the slightest doubt about the wheelchair must be.

So her impact on 5e now exceeds yours? 

No, that will probably happen when she's part of the Super Diversity Team that is hired to design 6e.

But it's very clear that the original vision that Mike Mearls and I had for 5e, which had a good run and lasted longer than the original intent for earlier editions, is becoming more and more distorted.

Not surprised. Everything suffers from mission creep, especially as more and more heads & hands get involved. The exception are properties that are totally dominated by their sole creator. Your own games being an example. However, even that can go off track; Cyberpunk Red may be (almost) all Pondsmith, but my Drivethrurpg.com copy of the core book has added a few files I never asked for--including the Cyberpunk Red version of the combat wheelchair. At least it doesn't have photos of dolls in the wheelchair...

Heh. One of my players lost his arm in a fight. I had no idea how he'd take it. A week later on game night he was chomping at the bit to see what his one-armed swordsman would do.

How nice of the villains, to accommodate heroes with handicaps.

What a load of manure.

Quote from: Jason Coplen on September 03, 2021, 06:18:14 PM
Heh. One of my players lost his arm in a fight. I had no idea how he'd take it. A week later on game night he was chomping at the bit to see what his one-armed swordsman would do.

The exact same thing happened with one of my Lion & Dragon PCs.

Why don't they just release a new line called Disableds and Dragons and be done with it? Normal people can technically play as well, but they must play someone with a crippling disability.

I'd buy it! it'd be fun...

I want to play an iron Lung Dwarf. But he can magically float about in his tube (+5 AC), and has little robotic arms to wield swords, etc.

Quote from: RPGPundit on September 03, 2021, 04:35:00 PM

The wheelchair is in Candlekeep, and EVERY dungeon for official D&D from Candlekeep onwards has been wheelchair-accessible. Also, every D&D product from candlekeep onward has featured the wheelchair in art.

WTF? 😀

By the way, I also think that Tolkien should have made Mordor wheelchair-accessible. I mean seriously, this just shows how non-inclusive this most influential fantasy work of fiction is. We must do better!