On the recent controversy about Braunsteins, an early influence on D&D.

You had me at misappropriation.

Parlour games is the closest Braunstein comes to to me. Without all the LARPing. Which includes the murder mystery games you noted. Seems the most common.

Quote from: Man at Arms on September 11, 2024, 11:11:45 PMYou had me at misappropriation.

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For me, Jeffro's misusing the term 'Braunstein' for an ongoing Diplomacy type game is a much lesser sin than Griff threatening to sue people for stealing Weseley's IP - of which Griff seems to hold a highly proprietary view.  Griff's interactions with Harmony Ginger on X have been very not-good. His "None may come to the Weseley except through Me" schtick also comes across very badly.

The real funny thing here is it sounds almost like the Donald Featherstone "individualized wargaming" of yore, where for like conventions and stuff it was a skirmish scenario and each participant played one character (rather than like a squad or higher), but with a bit more roleplaying elements in it. 

Quote from: S'mon on September 12, 2024, 07:58:12 AMFor me, Jeffro's misusing the term 'Braunstein' for an ongoing Diplomacy type game is a much lesser sin than Griff threatening to sue people for stealing Weseley's IP - of which Griff seems to hold a highly proprietary view.  Griff's interactions with Harmony Ginger on X have been very not-good. His "None may come to the Weseley except through Me" schtick also comes across very badly.

I would disagree. Let's presume that Griff has made some silly statements for a moment, that is only representative of a personal conflict with other individuals.
What the BroSR are doing in trying to take a totally different thing and steal the name Braunstein for it, to be played according to Jeffro's ideas which do not in any way reflect the actual history of what the game with that title looked like, is a re-writing of history that is meant to erase the past while replacing it with Jeffro's lies. If allowed to succeed it will affect people who were never involved in the original social media interaction; in fact, it will affect those other people MORE because they will be affected with a false history without any ability to know that it is a lie.

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I'm not fundamentally as bothered by you are about these "neo-gamists" who claim to resurrect long dead games and claim to be playing them correctly (ignoring the fact that the actual players and/or creators of the game, when still alive and contacted, inevitably produce facts in total disagreement).  But I totally get why it makes you mad, this thing where they invent false legitimacy is just absurd.

Quote from: Venka on September 12, 2024, 02:01:15 PMThe hippie-boomer voices were amazing, 11/10.

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