Quote from: Dr Rotwang!I'm'a e-mail grub, see if he wants to steam out a bit and try again.  You guys want me to e-mail grub, see if he wants to steam out a bit and try again?

I wouldn't mind seeing him back but I'm afraid it'd just happen again.

I'm more interested in seeing him relax enough to be able to enjoy this place.  We're here to shoot the shit, not have Important Discussions where people leap on each others' cases like rabid chihuahuas at an enchilada festival.

At least, if you take it the former way instead of the latter, you'll be better off in the long run.

I'll zing him an e-mail when I'm not at work.  Grub's good people; I haven't been around RPG.Net for...uh...gee, 6 months now I think.  So I didn't seehim getting all whacked out on the modballs.

Quote from: Dr Rotwang!Shut up, ya poop donut.  Get bent in the butt.

Hey!  I was looking through some old papers and I found an old thread you started on RPG.Net called "Perilous Pulp Posts"!  I liked it so much, I'd printed it out.  Neet, huh?

I'm'a e-mail grub, see if he wants to steam out a bit and try again.  You guys want me to e-mail grub, see if he wants to steam out a bit and try again?

Cool thread title, go me.

I'll email grub in a bit, he probably needs more time, I really like him though so I hope he'll give it another go.

Quote from: Dr Rotwang!I'll zing him an e-mail when I'm not at work.  Grub's good people; I haven't been around RPG.Net for...uh...gee, 6 months now I think.  So I didn't seehim getting all whacked out on the modballs.

I won't speculate as to cause for the effect.  I just noticed a trend.  Grubman always seemed the happy-go-lucky sort.  Recently he's been edgy and combative.

Quote from: Dr Rotwang!I'll zing him an e-mail when I'm not at work.  Grub's good people; I haven't been around RPG.Net for...uh...gee, 6 months now I think.  So I didn't seehim getting all whacked out on the modballs.

 Less than 6 months - about a month ago I saw you and your pink tie make at least one post over there.

- E.W.C.

Quote from: GabrielI was looking at the threads and seeing James McMurray telling him he's posting wrongly.

I wasn't (intentionally) telling him he was posting wrongly. He seemed confused about people thinking he was upset. I tried to point out that using phrases like "why the hell" and "I hate it" tend to make people assume you're upset.

Quote from: KoltarWhen referring to "Basic D&D" , do you guys mean the one from the 1980s , or the current introductory box sets of the D20 version that WOTC has out there in stores ? (including my store)

The 80's version.

And before I forget:

Welcome to theRPGsite, where even the threads about Basic D&D ripoffs are about RPG.net!

Add me to the crowd hoping that grub gives even one more try. I mean the guy is a solid old school type, the threads here should in reality, suit him well.

If this was Grub's idea of an uncomfortably flamey thread, I wonder how he gets along everywhere else on the internets...

On rpg.net, when you get banned, a few people say, "We're sorry to see (them) go." but they seemed to be drowned out by all the people that pile on to say, "Haha! Got another one! See you in hell (person)!" The dude got pissed off here, unregistered, and nobody seemed to burn him for it, in particular. On the contrary, it's sad to see him take his ball and go home, and that's what was said.

Honestly, it seemed like an odd thing to pick a fight about. The Basic Game or Basic D&D... I guess you just play whichever one strikes your fantasy. If there's nothing holy in the goddamn dharma, there's doesn't seem to be anything holy in which D&D-ish thing you pick. To me, anyhow. Why play one over the other? Why not?

Quote from: Thanatos02On rpg.net, when you get banned, a few people say, "We're sorry to see (them) go." but they seemed to be drowned out by all the people that pile on to say, "Haha! Got another one! See you in hell (person)!"

I think that's due, in part, because of the ivory tower the mods put themselves in.  Questioning a mod decision is a bannable offense there, after all, because the sacred mods should never have to answer to the masses. :rolleyes:

Take a look at the recent banning of Zomben, for example, for daring to say that people should be able to tell off trolls.

Heck, even innocent questions get yelled at anymore.  One guy had a couple of questions about IP banning on public computers.  They answered then locked his first thread, he tried to start another one to ask a related (but different) question, and they locked that one and yelled at him.  It's absurd.

The one that really made me laugh, though, was where somebody got yelled at because their sig contained a quote that someone, somehow thought was homophobic.  She changed the sig, then asked why it was a problem.  Instead of answering her, they locked the thread because she'd already changed her sig so it was considered irrelevent.

Sorry, wrong thread.

Of course there are reasons for site differences. I don't have much doubt that the mods have something to do with that. On the whole, though, the discussion here was kind of heated, but I wouldn't say it'd burst into flames yet.

After all, nobodies mother's been called a cum-guzzling whore yet. Maybe my standards for flames are too high, though.

In particular, I'm not really convinced that copyright infringement is the issue with this game. Not because I'm for IP theft (I don't care one way or the other most times. I'm more sympathetic with game rights, if only because the margins are so low), but because so much has already been seriously ripped off the old editions of D&D that I figured if people really wanted to play it, they just would. It's not like it's too hard to find resources for fairly cheap, as far as games go.

Since it's not breaking any laws, especially, and no money is being made, I can't imagine a reason to get in a twist about it. Did anyone point out the differences between the two games yet? (Or have easily linked info?)

Quote from: Thanatos02Honestly, it seemed like an odd thing to pick a fight about. The Basic Game or Basic D&D... I guess you just play whichever one strikes your fantasy. If there's nothing holy in the goddamn dharma, there's doesn't seem to be anything holy in which D&D-ish thing you pick. To me, anyhow. Why play one over the other? Why not?

I think it's partly to do with the Grubster wanting to publish some gaming stuff and being unsure for what system. IIRC he likes Basic D&D best, but there's no OGL for that, so BFRPG is second best, but to his mind the license is too restrictive.

He's exploded in my face in the past--he can be a bit erratic--but I like him. So yes, Doc R, one more vote for the email.

I share the dislike for BFRPG on the grounds of being restricted to 20 levels. Due to this, one cannot just use old material/modules.

Gimme 36 Levels!

Quote from: SettembriniI share the dislike for BFRPG on the grounds of being restricted to 20 levels. Due to this, one cannot just use old material/modules.

Gimme 36 Levels!

Okay, you can have them.  Feel free to send me a writeup and I'll post it on the Basic Fantasy RPG website.

No, seriously.  Basic Fantasy RPG is a collaborative project.  It is not about making money.  It's about playing the game, and sharing the coolness that you have created with others (if you wish).

I'm going to refrain from commenting on anything said here, save for one thing... the restrictions on the license.  The restrictions limit your ability to use the NAME and/or LOGO of the project.  The rest of the work is available as Open Game Content.  THE WHOLE THING.  (Well, okay, the artwork isn't, save for a couple of maps, but all the text is OGC except for the aforementioned Product Identity.)

So you can use/recycle whatever you want, and make a profit if you like (and can get anyone to pay)... you just can't use my very limited amount of Product Identity if you don't abide by the Product Identity license.