Quote from: Mistwell on June 15, 2021, 11:13:54 AM

Quote from: Omega on June 14, 2021, 07:47:32 PM

Quote from: Mistwell on June 14, 2021, 05:29:23 PM
Based on the cover, it's an amalgamation and not the comics themselves. For instance, that's not Miles Morales on the cover.

Not that facts should get in the way of your story.

Um... That looks like the Miles Morales costume. Not either of the black Spider-Man costumes. And, well, Spider-Man is in the piece as well...

Who did you think that was? I am not saying you are wrong. But if it isnt Morales then who is wearing his suit?

For fucks sake people, BOTH are on the cover. LOOK at the cover. All of it. Both Miles Morales AND Peter Parker are on the cover. What did you think I meant by "it's an amalgamation of both"?

Yeah, but your claim, to which ppl are answering and to whose answers you're now taking offense was:

Quote from: Mistwell on June 14, 2021, 05:29:23 PM

Quote from: amacris on June 14, 2021, 04:25:36 AM

Quote from: Spinachcat on June 13, 2021, 09:52:46 PM
Has any Marvel RPG come close to the original RPG?

Also, is this a Marvel comics RPG or a Marvel "cinematic universe" RPG?

It's Marvel Comics, not the Cinematic Universe....No doubt about it. Miles Morales instead of Peter Parker, etc.

Based on the cover, it's an amalgamation and not the comics themselves. For instance, that's not Miles Morales on the cover.

Not that facts should get in the way of your story.

Bolding mine.

Ppl were talking about what would be INSIDE thye book, you answered with a lie or a mistake about THE COVER. And when called out got angry.

Quote from: amacris on June 15, 2021, 02:22:03 PM

Quote from: Mistwell on June 14, 2021, 05:29:23 PM
Based on the cover, it's an amalgamation and not the comics themselves. For instance, that's not Miles Morales on the cover.
Not that facts should get in the way of your story.

The Marvel comic universe is Universe 616. The system is set in Universe 616. That's the appeal of calling the system the d616 system.
The progressive characters that are at the forefront of the comic universe are also going to be at the forefront of the game.
I don't spout off on the internet about things I don't know about.

Tell you what, would you like to bet the contents include an amalgamation of MCU characters, Comics characters, and even non-modern Marvel comics characters?

Quote from: Mistwell on June 15, 2021, 07:05:27 PM

Quote from: amacris on June 15, 2021, 02:22:03 PM

Quote from: Mistwell on June 14, 2021, 05:29:23 PM
Based on the cover, it's an amalgamation and not the comics themselves. For instance, that's not Miles Morales on the cover.
Not that facts should get in the way of your story.

The Marvel comic universe is Universe 616. The system is set in Universe 616. That's the appeal of calling the system the d616 system.
The progressive characters that are at the forefront of the comic universe are also going to be at the forefront of the game.
I don't spout off on the internet about things I don't know about.

Tell you what, would you like to bet the contents include an amalgamation of MCU characters, Comics characters, and even non-modern Marvel comics characters?

Well, I shouldn't in good conscience take a bet with you because I have asymmetric information access. Knowing that, if you still want to bet, I'll agree to a gentleman's bet wherein loser has to post on TheRPGSite and write a humiliating essay extolling the other person's foresight compared to our own meager mind.

Quote from: Mistwell on June 15, 2021, 11:13:54 AM
For fucks sake people, BOTH are on the cover. LOOK at the cover. All of it. Both Miles Morales AND Peter Parker are on the cover. What did you think I meant by "it's an amalgamation of both"?

You must have missed it then. Miles Morales and Spider-Man have been in the same marvel universe for a few years now? 4 or 5? Marvel copied DC and did a "universe merger" event. End result was Morales ended up on earth 616. Its not an amalgam of both movie and comic.

I kind of miss the old Marvel Super Heroes game TSR licensed. I have a copy of FASERIP and 4 COLOR but it really just isn't the same.

I also had the old DC Mayfair game but never played it. Still in the box, probably in another box.

I had the Palladium super hero game, can't remember what it was called, but I had a Justice Machine add on for it. That was an old Comico comic I'd pick up at the convenience store on the way to High School. I read JM, the Elemental,  Grendel, and a kind of sucky Robotech comic they put out. Mostly grim and gritty stuff.

The number "616" referet to "Earth-616", and is the alternate universe that most of marvel's stories take place in.

From the Marvel Fandom Wiki:

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Earth-616

QuoteQuote1.png [The] Prime Universe-- last of the old, first of the new. The hub it all revolves around. Here, science can be magic. Here, we can rewrite every story.  Quote2.png
—The Maker[src]
History

Foreword: Multiversal Cycle

The reality of Earth-616 has gone through eight different incarnations, all triggered by different instances of multiversal renewal, which constitutes in the destruction and re-creation of everything there is.[14]

I imagine that it uses d6's for task resolution.

Quote from: palaeomerus on July 13, 2021, 04:40:26 AM
I kind of miss the old Marvel Super Heroes game TSR licensed. I have a copy of FASERIP and 4 COLOR but it really just isn't the same.

I also had the old DC Mayfair game but never played it. Still in the box, probably in another box.

I had the Palladium super hero game, can't remember what it was called, but I had a Justice Machine add on for it. That was an old Comico comic I'd pick up at the convenience store on the way to High School. I read JM, the Elemental,  Grendel, and a kind of sucky Robotech comic they put out. Mostly grim and gritty stuff.

What isn't the same?

MSH has an incredible fan-community that regularly puts out material better than the original MSH game - and they keep putting it out. It's quite insane the quality of their PDF's they're creating and they do it for free.

I wish the MHR community would do one for Livewires, Galacta or even the Empowered verse. Maybe one day.. The thing is, i dislike the mechanics of MHR, it just dosent fit for me with what i want to play in. It just feels too ''handwavy'' for my tastes.

But back to this thing. While its way early in the game(so to speak), Marvel dosent seem to inspire a lot of confidence these days imho. Debatable on the series and its merits, i wonder if any of the wokeness will seep into the game. Im a bit suprised they made Miss Marvel attractive on the cover, she looks like a woman here, not the current androgynous version. Guess the thing to do is to wait.

That beeing said, i just want the system to be good enough to use it in other supers games. There are games i would like to do, and having tried multiple systems i still have found some i have issues with. Ofc this one will have issues too. Im just hoping for a good outcome i can work with.

Quote from: tenbones on July 13, 2021, 08:07:49 AM

Quote from: palaeomerus on July 13, 2021, 04:40:26 AM
I kind of miss the old Marvel Super Heroes game TSR licensed. I have a copy of FASERIP and 4 COLOR but it really just isn't the same.

I also had the old DC Mayfair game but never played it. Still in the box, probably in another box.

I had the Palladium super hero game, can't remember what it was called, but I had a Justice Machine add on for it. That was an old Comico comic I'd pick up at the convenience store on the way to High School. I read JM, the Elemental,  Grendel, and a kind of sucky Robotech comic they put out. Mostly grim and gritty stuff.

What isn't the same?

MSH has an incredible fan-community that regularly puts out material better than the original MSH game - and they keep putting it out. It's quite insane the quality of their PDF's they're creating and they do it for free.

Did not know that. Can you shoot me a link? I could use a nice rabbit hole right about now.

Quote from: palaeomerus on July 13, 2021, 06:53:11 PM

Quote from: tenbones on July 13, 2021, 08:07:49 AM

Quote from: palaeomerus on July 13, 2021, 04:40:26 AM
I kind of miss the old Marvel Super Heroes game TSR licensed. I have a copy of FASERIP and 4 COLOR but it really just isn't the same.

I also had the old DC Mayfair game but never played it. Still in the box, probably in another box.

I had the Palladium super hero game, can't remember what it was called, but I had a Justice Machine add on for it. That was an old Comico comic I'd pick up at the convenience store on the way to High School. I read JM, the Elemental,  Grendel, and a kind of sucky Robotech comic they put out. Mostly grim and gritty stuff.

What isn't the same?

MSH has an incredible fan-community that regularly puts out material better than the original MSH game - and they keep putting it out. It's quite insane the quality of their PDF's they're creating and they do it for free.

Did not know that. Can you shoot me a link? I could use a nice rabbit hole right about now.

Second that sentiment. I'm always up to check out an old system.

The MSH Facebook group is invitation only. Because I quit Facebook a couple of years ago, one of their mods gave me access to their Google Share (so I can't give it to you).

HOWEVER...

Most if not all of their material is put up on the Classic Marvel Forever website in their Resources>Downloads section

https://www.classicmarvelforever.com/cms/netbooks-and-enhancements.html

So there you go! Enjoy.

Thank you much!

Quote from: tenbones on July 14, 2021, 09:49:08 AM
The MSH Facebook group is invitation only. Because I quit Facebook a couple of years ago, one of their mods gave me access to their Google Share (so I can't give it to you).

HOWEVER...

Most if not all of their material is put up on the Classic Marvel Forever website in their Resources>Downloads section

https://www.classicmarvelforever.com/cms/netbooks-and-enhancements.html

So there you go! Enjoy.

Awesome. Thanks.

Quote from: Svenhelgrim on July 13, 2021, 07:20:33 AM
The number "616" referet to "Earth-616", and is the alternate universe that most of marvel's stories take place in.

From the Marvel Fandom Wiki:

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Earth-616

QuoteQuote1.png [The] Prime Universe-- last of the old, first of the new. The hub it all revolves around. Here, science can be magic. Here, we can rewrite every story.  Quote2.png
—The Maker[src]
History

Foreword: Multiversal Cycle

The reality of Earth-616 has gone through eight different incarnations, all triggered by different instances of multiversal renewal, which constitutes in the destruction and re-creation of everything there is.[14]

I imagine that it uses d6's for task resolution.

Yes, it uses two ordinary d6 and one special "Marvel" d6.

Quote from: amacris on July 14, 2021, 01:33:03 PM
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Yes, it uses two ordinary d6 and one special "Marvel" d6.

A proprietary die?

Making the same mistake as FFG right out of the gate are they?

They are already hobbling themselves by inserting characters in the RPG from the current comic line, and not focusing on the iconic characters from the successful films and classic comics.

One wonders what their metrics for success are for this thing...