It's funny, I don't think Justin did anything wrong.

That said - he's been nothing but a raging dick to me on this forum (and a couple of others) for no reason I can ascertain. We even agree on a lot of GMing principles, which oddly are the threads where he's always attacked me. It's fucking weird.

Never liked the guy personally, but I'll call strikes and balls as I see them. He often, not always, has good GMing advice. His personality comes across like that of fetid dickcheese.

I always thought Discourse and Dragons was a man in drag, there were times I questioned it. Then I realized I didn't care.

Edit: the shit he said about Pundit - that's just fucking wrong.

Quote from: DocJones on February 06, 2024, 12:44:12 PM
Doesn't both original and revised blog post mention and credit Jaquays four times?

Also doesn't Arneson's "Blackmoor Castle" written before exhibit everything he credits Jaquays with?

Most "old school" dungeons exhibit this. Multiple entrance/exists, complex looping patterns. The idea didn't originate with Jaquays. The term was coined by the Alexandrian and named after Jaquays as an example. Not the example.

But people seem to have conveniently forgotten that in their rush to outrage.

Quote from: tenbones on February 06, 2024, 02:57:27 PM
It's funny, I don't think Justin did anything wrong.

That said - he's been nothing but a raging dick to me on this forum (and a couple of others) for no reason I can ascertain. We even agree on a lot of GMing principles, which oddly are the threads where he's always attacked me. It's fucking weird.

He's to gaming what Joseph Campbell is to myth:  Someone that has taken some rather minor ideas that a lot of people got independently and tried to spin them into central, important insights.  People that agree with his "ideas" but don't become part of his cult, are a threat to the mystique.  The only difference being, that as near as I can make out, Campbell didn't do the dick part himself, but farmed that out to his sycophants.  Though it was a more reserved time, and maybe behind the facade it was all the same.   

Quote from: tenbones on February 06, 2024, 02:57:27 PM
I always thought Discourse and Dragons was a man in drag, there were times I questioned it.

I never questioned Discourse and Dragons was a woman. Trans people will generally share that they are trans either in words or pronouns. Discourse and Dragons seems to keep her personal business to herself.
However, I'd always thought she was doing some kind of 40s radio announcer voice.

Quote from: Ruprecht on February 06, 2024, 04:27:03 PM

Quote from: tenbones on February 06, 2024, 02:57:27 PM
I always thought Discourse and Dragons was a man in drag, there were times I questioned it.

I never questioned Discourse and Dragons was a woman. Trans people will generally share that they are trans either in words or pronouns. Discourse and Dragons seems to keep her personal business to herself.
However, I'd always thought she was doing some kind of 40s radio announcer voice.

Her annoying nasally thickly accented voice is in large part an exaggerated bit on her part likely for "branding".  If you scroll WAAAAY back on her videos back to when she was a primarily Batman minis games channel, she actually sounds like a normal Irish lass.  It's only when she switched to being the Siren of DOOOOM!!!! for D&D and 40k that her schtick changed.

Quote from: RNGm on February 06, 2024, 07:42:27 PM

Quote from: Ruprecht on February 06, 2024, 04:27:03 PM

Quote from: tenbones on February 06, 2024, 02:57:27 PM
I always thought Discourse and Dragons was a man in drag, there were times I questioned it.

I never questioned Discourse and Dragons was a woman. Trans people will generally share that they are trans either in words or pronouns. Discourse and Dragons seems to keep her personal business to herself.
However, I'd always thought she was doing some kind of 40s radio announcer voice.

Her annoying nasally thickly accented voice is in large part an exaggerated bit on her part likely for "branding".  If you scroll WAAAAY back on her videos back to when she was a primarily Batman minis games channel, she actually sounds like a normal Irish lass.  It's only when she switched to being the Siren of DOOOOM!!!! for D&D and 40k that her schtick changed.

What makes her videos palatable to me is that it's obviously hyperbole and she jokes around about it.

Quote from: tenbones on February 06, 2024, 02:57:27 PM
It's funny, I don't think Justin did anything wrong.

That said - he's been nothing but a raging dick to me on this forum (and a couple of others) for no reason I can ascertain. We even agree on a lot of GMing principles, which oddly are the threads where he's always attacked me. It's fucking weird.

Never liked the guy personally, but I'll call strikes and balls as I see them. He often, not always, has good GMing advice. His personality comes across like that of fetid dickcheese.

I always thought Discourse and Dragons was a man in drag, there were times I questioned it. Then I realized I didn't care.

Edit: the shit he said about Pundit - that's just fucking wrong.

A lot of his "good gaming advice" is stuff he's credited himself for that he stole from other sources. Like Janelle Jacquays. He has little or no authentic talent.

Quote from: Ratman_tf on February 06, 2024, 03:04:36 PM

Quote from: DocJones on February 06, 2024, 12:44:12 PM
Doesn't both original and revised blog post mention and credit Jaquays four times?

Also doesn't Arneson's "Blackmoor Castle" written before exhibit everything he credits Jaquays with?

Most "old school" dungeons exhibit this. Multiple entrance/exists, complex looping patterns. The idea didn't originate with Jaquays. The term was coined by the Alexandrian and named after Jaquays as an example. Not the example.

But people seem to have conveniently forgotten that in their rush to outrage.

I mean, if you look at Tonisborg, it has multiple entries and exits, complex stair patterns, sections of a given level that can only be accessed from a level above or below, and all the rest. And it was designed before the original D&D box came out.

Quote from: Ratman_tf on February 06, 2024, 07:45:50 PM

Quote from: RNGm on February 06, 2024, 07:42:27 PM

Quote from: Ruprecht on February 06, 2024, 04:27:03 PM

Quote from: tenbones on February 06, 2024, 02:57:27 PM
I always thought Discourse and Dragons was a man in drag, there were times I questioned it.

I never questioned Discourse and Dragons was a woman. Trans people will generally share that they are trans either in words or pronouns. Discourse and Dragons seems to keep her personal business to herself.
However, I'd always thought she was doing some kind of 40s radio announcer voice.

Her annoying nasally thickly accented voice is in large part an exaggerated bit on her part likely for "branding".  If you scroll WAAAAY back on her videos back to when she was a primarily Batman minis games channel, she actually sounds like a normal Irish lass.  It's only when she switched to being the Siren of DOOOOM!!!! for D&D and 40k that her schtick changed.

What makes her videos palatable to me is that it's obviously hyperbole and she jokes around about it.

Yes, there is that at least, but the downside to that is that every video she does seems like an audition tape for the Daily Show, with all the pretentious unbearableness that implies.

Quote from: RPGPundit on February 06, 2024, 10:14:30 PM
A lot of his "good gaming advice" is stuff he's credited himself for that he stole from other sources. Like Janelle Jacquays. He has little or no authentic talent.

It's not the concepts, it's the presentation.

Quote from: tenbones on February 06, 2024, 02:57:27 PM
It's funny, I don't think Justin did anything wrong.

That said - he's been nothing but a raging dick to me on this forum (and a couple of others) for no reason I can ascertain. We even agree on a lot of GMing principles, which oddly are the threads where he's always attacked me. It's fucking weird.

Never liked the guy personally, but I'll call strikes and balls as I see them. He often, not always, has good GMing advice. His personality comes across like that of fetid dickcheese.

I always thought Discourse and Dragons was a man in drag, there were times I questioned it. Then I realized I didn't care.

Edit: the shit he said about Pundit - that's just fucking wrong.

My thoughts as well. The Alexandrian has some good GMing advice, and it really doesn't matter how much of it is original because compiling it is the important part. I think he tends to encourage taking good ideas too far, but I kind of understand a logic to it. When you're teaching a new skill, taking things too far is often a good way to embed the habit.

That said, Alexandrian has definitely engaged in some drive-by virtue signalling. In more public places I will defend him from this most recent controversy because I am a perennial rights of the accused advocate, and I don't have to like or agree with people to see that the community is better off if someone plays the part of the indestructible wet blanket. At the same time, the whole "Jaquasing" non-controversy and Alexandrian's crap aimed at Pundit are both drive-by character assassination campaigns. I can't help but see poetic justice in this.

Quote from: S'mon on February 06, 2024, 01:58:29 PM

Quote from: RPGPundit on February 06, 2024, 01:02:15 PM
He started it on G+ if I remember correctly, but he repeated it everywhere, including here on theRPGsite, and on twitter. Here for example: https://twitter.com/hexcrawl/status/1044402500089131008?lang=en

Cheers.

I used to read this guy's (Alexander's) blog and I like what he wrote.  I am really saddened to see that he is a slanderer.  I won't be wasting my time or money on Justin Alexander in the future.  Thanks for the heads up!

Quote from: Svenhelgrim on February 07, 2024, 04:28:22 PM
I used to read this guy's (Alexander's) blog and I like what he wrote.  I am really saddened to see that he is a slanderer.  I won't be wasting my time or money on Justin Alexander in the future.  Thanks for the heads up!

Bad people can give good advice. I mean, that's what this site is all about. 

Quote from: RPGPundit on February 06, 2024, 01:02:15 PM
He started it on G+ if I remember correctly, but he repeated it everywhere, including here on theRPGsite, and on twitter. Here for example: https://twitter.com/hexcrawl/status/1044402500089131008?lang=en

There's also this...

QuoteTo be fair, last time his ad hominem campaign included accusing me of being a transphobic time traveler and/or psychic. That was pretty good, but I think he mostly lucked into it. His usual fare is very pedestrian.

...oh the irony.

Quote from: Ruprecht on February 06, 2024, 01:18:22 PM
That tweet is funny because the obvious thing to do in such a tweet would be to include a link or screenshot to where RPGPundit self-identifies as a White Supremacist. Without that it comes off as hot air and false bravado.

Here ya go then. I'm honestly surprised they shared it as it clearly exposes their dishonest rhetoric.

And here's the thread which is easier to read for context, but impossible to archive. I swear how anyone follows a 'discussion' on #Twitter is beyond me, but I guess that's why things like TwitLonger came into existence.

Quote from: RNGm on February 06, 2024, 07:42:27 PM
Her annoying nasally thickly accented voice is in large part an exaggerated bit on her part likely for "branding".  If you scroll WAAAAY back on her videos back to when she was a primarily Batman minis games channel, she actually sounds like a normal Irish lass.  It's only when she switched to being the Siren of DOOOOM!!!! for D&D and 40k that her schtick changed.

Arch (Warhammer) does the same accent branding.

I don't know, nor care if Dungeons and Discourses is a bio woman or not.

I do know they're videos on industry news are actually good and tend to be accurate most of the time... and the self depreciating humor they put in their videos is charming.

That said, I do think she downplayed Xander's fuckery down way too much. She should have raked him over the coals a little more.