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The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit

Started by RPGPundit, February 05, 2024, 10:59:01 AM

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RNGm

Quote from: Orphan81 on February 08, 2024, 05:35:56 PM
I don't know, nor care if Dungeons and Discourses is a bio woman or not.

I believe the joke is because the OP mistyped the name of the youtube and mistankenly referred to Dungeons and Diversity as Dungeon Discourse which has since been corrected.  I don't think anyone is actually believing that she is not.

daniel_ream

Quote from: RNGm on February 08, 2024, 06:54:27 PM
Quote from: Orphan81 on February 08, 2024, 05:35:56 PM
I don't know, nor care if Dungeons and Discourses is a bio woman or not.

I believe the joke is because the OP mistyped the name of the youtube and mistankenly referred to Dungeons and Diversity as Dungeon Discourse which has since been corrected.  I don't think anyone is actually believing that she is not.

The channel pops up on my Smart TV's YouTube app occasionally and my girlfriend caught a few seconds of the YouTuber screeding in the preview.  The first thing she said was "that's a dude".
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S'mon

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I believe the joke is because the OP mistyped the name of the youtube and mistankenly referred to Dungeons and Diversity as Dungeon Discourse which has since been corrected.  I don't think anyone is actually believing that she is not.

I saw Discourse on Twitter commiserating with Matt Colville about all the comments they get about their appearance. They're both just on the ugly side of homely.
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tenbones

#48
Quote from: RPGPundit on February 06, 2024, 10:14:30 PM
Quote from: tenbones on February 06, 2024, 02:57:27 PM
It's funny, I don't think Justin did anything wrong.

That said - he's been nothing but a raging dick to me on this forum (and a couple of others) for no reason I can ascertain. We even agree on a lot of GMing principles, which oddly are the threads where he's always attacked me. It's fucking weird.

Never liked the guy personally, but I'll call strikes and balls as I see them. He often, not always, has good GMing advice. His personality comes across like that of fetid dickcheese.

I always thought Discourse and Dragons was a man in drag, there were times I questioned it. Then I realized I didn't care.

Edit: the shit he said about Pundit - that's just fucking wrong.

A lot of his "good gaming advice" is stuff he's credited himself for that he stole from other sources. Like Janelle Jacquays. He has little or no authentic talent.


Here's the thing - you're absolutely right. But "good advice" needs to be repeated until it becomes normal practice. And frankly, he's been out there knabbing all the bits of good advice here and there and repackaging it for consumption. That's not a bad thing. What makes it bad is that we, ourselves, don't do it enough. I intend on rectifying that.

I was quite happy with your recent "debate" - where you were talking about GMing at the level where there is zero intention in controlling what's happening in the game. When the game is driving itself. It's a magic point as a GM when you can get your campaign there. It requires skill that many GM's don't achieve because of focusing on pre-planning, and internal railroading, in order to feel "safe". You were spot on. THAT kind of advice is needed to help people realize what's beyond just running out of the box adventures and as a GM with the right tools, they can get there.

The fact that Justin gets this much credit is no shocking to me. It's just sad that he is the current representative of how to do this thing we do, and he's such a dick. I plan on entering this arena soon. My plans will be more developmental, I make zero pretense on inventing specific techniques, but I do intend on being the first to make a developmental structure that others can use to up their game in scalable fashion. Our hobby *needs* not just GM's, but good GM's. We can leave Justin to wallow in his bullshit outside with the rest of the weirdos.

I fully intend on using the resources on this forum to help formulate and test some these ideas with credit given.

Edit: I still don't give a shit whether Discourse is a man or homely woman. Am I supposed to? Or is it just a topic of mild interest here? Speaking of which my daughter saw me listning to one of her videos and thought she was a man too. My daughter is in the fashion industry and is generally on top of stuff like this... Discourse really perplexed her. Some of you might find that amusing, heh.

Ratman_tf

#49
Quote from: S'mon on February 09, 2024, 04:26:03 AM
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I believe the joke is because the OP mistyped the name of the youtube and mistankenly referred to Dungeons and Diversity as Dungeon Discourse which has since been corrected.  I don't think anyone is actually believing that she is not.

I saw Discourse on Twitter commiserating with Matt Colville about all the comments they get about their appearance. They're both just on the ugly side of homely.

I think media, and now social media, skews our perceptions of reality. Matt Colville and Discourse look more like the men and women I encounter daily in the real world. Both look "normal" to me. (Not counting when Discourse does some cheap joke cosplay, of course)

Regardless, it's an uninteresting off topic tangent. Sometimes this place sounds like a gossipy sewing bee.
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Captain_Pazuzu

Quote from: RPGPundit on February 06, 2024, 01:02:15 PM
Quote from: S'mon on February 05, 2024, 04:11:48 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit on February 05, 2024, 03:56:52 PM
Well, this one is a personal revenge thread. "The alexandrian" spent years making completely false allegations against me and trying to have me ruined

I actually can't remember this, just him being a massive prat. Did he originate allegations against you, or just echo stuff from the usual mob?

He started it on G+ if I remember correctly, but he repeated it everywhere, including here on theRPGsite, and on twitter. Here for example: https://twitter.com/hexcrawl/status/1044402500089131008?lang=en

Had to comment on that one.

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Orphan81

Quote from: Ratman_tf on February 09, 2024, 04:13:47 PM
Quote from: S'mon on February 09, 2024, 04:26:03 AM
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I believe the joke is because the OP mistyped the name of the youtube and mistankenly referred to Dungeons and Diversity as Dungeon Discourse which has since been corrected.  I don't think anyone is actually believing that she is not.

I saw Discourse on Twitter commiserating with Matt Colville about all the comments they get about their appearance. They're both just on the ugly side of homely.

I think media, and now social media, skews our perceptions of reality. Matt Colville and Discourse look more like the men and women I encounter daily in the real world. Both look "normal" to me. (Not counting when Discourse does some cheap joke cosplay, of course)

Regardless, it's an uninteresting off topic tangent. Sometimes this place sounds like a gossipy sewing bee.

At the end of the day, Dungeons and Discourse is a *Good* Youtube Channel for getting actual gaming news and rumors. There's no politics put into it and the host tells you what's really going on. She's never been a friend of WotC despite being a fan of 5th Edition.
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Ratman_tf

Quote from: Orphan81 on February 09, 2024, 07:22:45 PM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on February 09, 2024, 04:13:47 PM
Quote from: S'mon on February 09, 2024, 04:26:03 AM
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I believe the joke is because the OP mistyped the name of the youtube and mistankenly referred to Dungeons and Diversity as Dungeon Discourse which has since been corrected.  I don't think anyone is actually believing that she is not.

I saw Discourse on Twitter commiserating with Matt Colville about all the comments they get about their appearance. They're both just on the ugly side of homely.

I think media, and now social media, skews our perceptions of reality. Matt Colville and Discourse look more like the men and women I encounter daily in the real world. Both look "normal" to me. (Not counting when Discourse does some cheap joke cosplay, of course)

Regardless, it's an uninteresting off topic tangent. Sometimes this place sounds like a gossipy sewing bee.

At the end of the day, Dungeons and Discourse is a *Good* Youtube Channel for getting actual gaming news and rumors. There's no politics put into it

She leans pretty heavily into "corporations bad, people rise up!" I can't tell if it's a joke or a half-joke or a serious take. (Probably all three at different times)

Not that I have any love for shitty corporations that do shitty things, but The Left has soured me on criticism.
The notion of an exclusionary and hostile RPG community is a fever dream of zealots who view all social dynamics through a narrow keyhole of structural oppression.
-Haffrung

daniel_ream

Quote from: Ratman_tf on February 09, 2024, 08:28:04 PM
She leans pretty heavily into "corporations bad, people rise up!" I can't tell if it's a joke or a half-joke or a serious take. (Probably all three at different times)

Permit me to suggest "pandering to her core demographic" as a fourth option. As mcbobbo said elsewhere, D&D is now a lifestyle brand and that brand is aimed at college-aged Left Coast dangerhairs. That demo hasn't just drunk the "corporations bad! Grr!" Kool-Ade, they're mainlining it straight into their veins and peddling it to schoolchildren on street corners.  Outrage Merchant 101 is to stoke the biases and predilections of your audience and rile them up over some imaginary offense.  In the same way that the Critical Drinker pretends that what Disney does with Marvel and Star Wars is Serious. Business., Discourse Minis is pretending that what WotC does on a day-to-day basis actually matters to most D&D players.
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BadApple

Quote from: Ratman_tf on February 09, 2024, 08:28:04 PM
Quote from: Orphan81 on February 09, 2024, 07:22:45 PM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on February 09, 2024, 04:13:47 PM
Quote from: S'mon on February 09, 2024, 04:26:03 AM
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I believe the joke is because the OP mistyped the name of the youtube and mistankenly referred to Dungeons and Diversity as Dungeon Discourse which has since been corrected.  I don't think anyone is actually believing that she is not.

I saw Discourse on Twitter commiserating with Matt Colville about all the comments they get about their appearance. They're both just on the ugly side of homely.

I think media, and now social media, skews our perceptions of reality. Matt Colville and Discourse look more like the men and women I encounter daily in the real world. Both look "normal" to me. (Not counting when Discourse does some cheap joke cosplay, of course)

Regardless, it's an uninteresting off topic tangent. Sometimes this place sounds like a gossipy sewing bee.

At the end of the day, Dungeons and Discourse is a *Good* Youtube Channel for getting actual gaming news and rumors. There's no politics put into it

She leans pretty heavily into "corporations bad, people rise up!" I can't tell if it's a joke or a half-joke or a serious take. (Probably all three at different times)

Not that I have any love for shitty corporations that do shitty things, but The Left has soured me on criticism.

Her RL job is a international trade lawyer.  Based on things about her non table top stuff, I think she's more of an anti corruption rather than anti making money.

Who knows though, we only see things through a keyhole with youtubers sometimes.
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Omega

Quote from: King Tyranno on February 05, 2024, 03:07:15 PM
Quote from: S'mon on February 05, 2024, 03:05:32 PM
Quote from: King Tyranno on February 05, 2024, 03:03:54 PM
Dungeons & Discourse is a Person of Gender. Not a woman. This should be obvious just from looking at him.

I'm pretty sure she's just homely.

No dude. That's a man. Women do not look and more importantly sound like that. I've no idea why this is even being discussed. It's so obvious it should go without saying. You can even see his five o'clock shadow beneath the bad foundation he cakes himself in.

Are you kidding? My grandmother could have passed as a guy far more and had a gruff voice too. Is this gal one or not? Dont know, dont particularly care.

Their videos try to be funny and snarky. But to me it falls flat like half the time. That is more important. And they seem to swing wildly between woke and not. And pro wotc an against. But too disjointed for my liking. And I've watched a few. Just not my thang I guess.

As for this whole Alexandrian and Jaquays thing. Its a mess all around.

Omega

Quote from: daniel_ream on February 09, 2024, 08:38:38 PM
Permit me to suggest "pandering to her core demographic" as a fourth option. As mcbobbo said elsewhere, D&D is now a lifestyle brand and that brand is aimed at college-aged Left Coast dangerhairs.

Its not a "lifestyle" brand... yet. WotC has tried to monetize fan crafts. But that does not in any way make it a "lifestyle".

In fact they have oddly dropped the ball on that front. But since 5e WotC has more and more outsourced things and let others do the footwork.

Now 6e. That could be a clusterfuck of stupid.

RPGPundit

Honestly the fact that no one has any certain knowledge about whether Dungeons & Discourse is a woman or trans should be enough reason in and of itself that we need not give a shit. It means that if this person is trans, they aren't weaponizing it by repeatedly boasting about it at every turn as if it was the single most defining thing about them that we must all be reminded of constantly, and by not doing that they should earn our not giving a fuck if they are either.
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Quote from: RPGPundit on February 10, 2024, 07:48:24 AM
Honestly the fact that no one has any certain knowledge about whether Dungeons & Discourse is a woman or trans should be enough reason in and of itself that we need not give a shit. It means that if this person is trans, they aren't weaponizing it by repeatedly boasting about it at every turn as if it was the single most defining thing about them that we must all be reminded of constantly, and by not doing that they should earn our not giving a fuck if they are either.

Oh, I could care less. But she/he/it is fucking obnoxious and if I ever meet you in person you're getting a punch in the gut for making me watch that video. I'll make up for it with some good Scotch, though.
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Quote from: Brad on February 10, 2024, 06:56:23 PMif I ever meet you in person you're getting a punch in the gut for making me watch that video.
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