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Open Gaming and Next

Started by deadDMwalking, June 25, 2014, 04:04:50 PM

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dar

Quote from: Mistwell;764506Looks like Frog God Games is coming out with an OGL adventure, from day 1, with assistance from WOTC.

maybe. Steve Winter worked on it at Frog God Games, and I'll bet working with Kobold he has a copy of the PHB to refer to.

Mistwell

Quote from: dar;764583maybe. Steve Winter worked on it at Frog God Games, and I'll bet working with Kobold he has a copy of the PHB to refer to.

I guess wait until their announcement Sunday?

Saplatt

Quote from: Mistwell;764506Looks like Frog God Games is coming out with an OGL adventure, from day 1, with assistance from WOTC.

It can be downloaded for free if you follow the links at Enworld. I did so and gave it a very brief scan, but I can't tell how compatible it is at this point. In a couple places, it simply refers the reader to "5th edition rules." It also has a pregen PC sorcerer - which I don't think we'll see until the PHB comes out.

mcbobbo

Quote from: Saplatt;764587It can be downloaded for free if you follow the links at Enworld. I did so and gave it a very brief scan, but I can't tell how compatible it is at this point. In a couple places, it simply refers the reader to "5th edition rules." It also has a pregen PC sorcerer - which I don't think we'll see until the PHB comes out.

Grabbed it, checked the first matching monster I saw - Stirges.  AC is one point low, and damage is one point low.  So... probably out of date material was used.

I may check more after the festivities tonight.
"It is the mark of an [intelligent] mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."

Saplatt

Quote from: mcbobbo;764636Grabbed it, checked the first matching monster I saw - Stirges.  AC is one point low, and damage is one point low.  So... probably out of date material was used.

I may check more after the festivities tonight.

That was my gut feeling. But same here, off to a party, then back to set off explosives for the dog, so it will be awhile before I get a chance to really read it through.

Saplatt

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Okay, it features, among other things, both a low level sorcerer and a level 3 necromancer. I wasn't party to whatever playtest used sorcerers, so I can't judge that very well.

The necromancer regains hps when he "kills" another creature (except for undead or constructs) equal to 2x the spell's level, or 3x if it's a necromantic spell. (cantrips don't count).

He also has a 1st level spell called "witch-fire bolt."  Not defined anywhere and I don't see it in the pdf, so that could be a problem - especially for a novice player or DM.

Could be that they based the character on something they know about the 5e phb or dmg, or it might just be something they made up - since the necromancer is an NPC. (or did something like this appear in one of the earlier playtest modules?)

But it's problematic that a key spell doesn't seem to be defined anywhere (unless it's in the starter set)  

I don't have the starter yet, so I can't compare the creatures. Also, some of the creatures are "young" versions of standard creatures (such as child zombies) so that makes it even more difficult.

It's generic enough that I suppose you could play it with the basic rules. It's very much presented as a basic paint-by-numbers piece for fledgling DMs.

But since one of the players is required to play the pre-gen sorcerer, it could be a bit of a dead end (in terms of advancement) if the sorcerer class isn't available until the PHB comes out next month - and it would require that book.

Also, at least three of the pregen classes aren't in the basic rules. (monk, druid and ranger). So, again, you'd have a dead end unless you get the PHB.    

Because of that issue (and the issue with the Necromancer's Spell), I don't think I could recommend this to a novice DM at this particular juncture.

Edit: They cite the OGL under the old rules - nothing about any sort of update to it. I don't know enough about intellectual property law to give an opinion whether that's effective or not. But there doesn't seem to be anything new in that regard.