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The 5e Wizard...initiate thy worship or thy fury!!

Started by Spinachcat, June 29, 2014, 01:51:15 AM

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Omega

#15
June 29, 2014, 11:43:25 AM
Quote from: Sacrosanct;762503yep.  Mike said as much in the unboxing video.  When a player picks up a sheet, they can play the image they have in their head, be it man or woman PC

Except for the parts where they take away the choice for you... :rolleyes:

Will be interesting to see how, or if, the Starter explains these choices to the DM.

Perhaps the elf is a failed cleric aspirant and turned to magic.
Maybee they are planning on multiclassing later... Plan ahead!

amacris

#16
June 29, 2014, 11:48:50 AM
In playtest we found that the at-will cantrips - in particular, mage hand - were extremely powerful. Combined with four spells at 1st level, the wizard was far and away the most powerful class.

I was the wizard and rather enjoyed it, though.

Marleycat

#17
June 29, 2014, 12:04:27 PM Last Edit: June 29, 2014, 12:08:19 PM by Marleycat
Quote from: Omega;762509Except for the parts where they take away the choice for you... :rolleyes:

Will be interesting to see how, or if, the Starter explains these choices to the DM.

Perhaps the elf is a failed cleric aspirant and turned to magic.
Maybee they are planning on multiclassing later... Plan ahead!

They had to make choices and I suppose whatever direction they went would be wrong by some measure.
Don\'t mess with cats we kill wizards in one blow.;)

thedungeondelver

#18
June 29, 2014, 12:17:15 PM
Ray of frost - no
Mage hand - no
short sword - no

Otherwise, OK.
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Marleycat

#19
June 29, 2014, 12:41:00 PM
Why no Mage Hand or short sword?
Don\'t mess with cats we kill wizards in one blow.;)

Omega

#20
June 29, 2014, 01:04:18 PM
Quote from: Marleycat;762516Why no Mage Hand or short sword?

Because its bad enough that elves have to hug every tree they see. Now they can remotely hug them!

Think of the trees. No mage hand...

As for the short sword. Because once an elf gets one sword. The next thing you know hes in the suntan booth and practicing with TWO swords...

Once was more than enough... Think of the swords...

The Butcher

#21
June 29, 2014, 01:45:22 PM
Quote from: James Gillen;762475"I use polysyllabic words that convey the impression of erudition."

My favorite part of the sheet because I saw it as a nod to Vance's Dying Earth wizards.

Quote from: James Gillen;762475They should have added "I refuse to explain which gender I am."

Probably popularized by OotS, but a recurring joke at our game table. :D

Brander

#22
June 29, 2014, 02:24:53 PM
Quote from: thedungeondelver;762513Ray of frost - no
Mage hand - no
short sword - no

Otherwise, OK.

I'm surprised not to see a longsword there.  I'd like to know why the shortsword instead.  I'ts not a charop thing, it's more an elf thing to me.  If they all know longbow and longsword as cultural thing, I kind of expect them to have them, unless there is at least a nod as to why.

Otherwise I'm not clear on why ray of frost and mage hand are "no" as well to you.
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Omega

#23
June 29, 2014, 02:31:02 PM
Quote from: Brander;762527I'm surprised not to see a longsword there.  I'd like to know why the shortsword instead.  I'ts not a charop thing, it's more an elf thing to me.  If they all know longbow and longsword as cultural thing, I kind of expect them to have them, unless there is at least a nod as to why.

Otherwise I'm not clear on why ray of frost and mage hand are "no" as well to you.

Finesse most likely. Allows you to use STR or DEX.

STR is 10. DEX is 15.

+2 to hit and damage.

Makes sense in that context.

Claudius

#24
June 29, 2014, 03:32:48 PM
Quote from: Omega;762509Except for the parts where they take away the choice for you... :rolleyes:
Why the rolleyes? It's a pregenerated character, if you want choices, you can create your own character.
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Votan

#25
June 29, 2014, 04:11:27 PM
Quote from: Claudius;762536Why the rolleyes? It's a pregenerated character, if you want choices, you can create your own character.

Exactly

James Gillen

#26
June 29, 2014, 07:27:26 PM
Quote from: Claudius;762536Why the rolleyes? It's a pregenerated character, if you want choices, you can create your own character.

Yeah, I see it as an example of what a detailed character would like.  Of course, if you are going to go into that much background, why not give a name?

JG
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Brad

#27
June 29, 2014, 07:34:12 PM
Quote from: James Gillen;762575Yeah, I see it as an example of what a detailed character would like.  Of course, if you are going to go into that much background, why not give a name?

JG

I know this might be hard to believe, but a kid would be far more interested in naming the character than they would be figuring out all the other stuff. This game is definitely being marketed toward a younger crowd.
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James Gillen

#28
June 29, 2014, 07:37:07 PM
Quote from: Brad;762578I know this might be hard to believe, but a kid would be far more interested in naming the character than they would be figuring out all the other stuff. This game is definitely being marketed toward a younger crowd.

Not a bad point.

JG
-My own opinion is enough for me, and I claim the right to have it defended against any consensus, any majority, anywhere, any place, any time. And anyone who disagrees with this can pick a number, get in line and kiss my ass.
 -Christopher Hitchens
-Be very very careful with any argument that calls for hurting specific people right now in order to theoretically help abstract people later.
-Daztur

robiswrong

#29
June 29, 2014, 07:38:25 PM
Quote from: Brad;762578I know this might be hard to believe, but a kid would be far more interested in naming the character than they would be figuring out all the other stuff. This game is definitely being marketed toward a younger crowd.

That's a great point.

I really think the starter set would have gotten less flack if it had been called the "Quickstart Set".
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