Meh, there are always exceptions. But I least I got you boys talking about something other then edition war stupidity.

*Marley drops the mike *

Yeah 2 pounds about right for the classic Spanish Cup Hilt rapier, going up for the transitional rapiers which still were intended to cut.  If you're talking about a thin cavalry saber shamshir type scimitar then it would be less, but the kind with the thick flaring end with the back false edge would be more.

Quote from: jibbajibba;759622A scimitar can be a 24 inch long 1 and a 1/2 inch wide blade widening a the end to weight the blade for chopping and slashing or it can be a 3 inch wide 36 inch long curved blade used for beheding folk....

I think D&D generally classes the latter sort of blade as a falchion.

Quote from: S'mon;759671I think D&D generally classes the latter sort of blade as a falchion.

Probably , but its not though. A falchion is european not middle eastern and is generally more like a machete with a curved blade but a straight back.

A scimitar has more in common with a tulwar. And a big scimitar is more like well to be honest scimitar has come to mean a curved longsword that looks a bit middle eastern so a scimitar can look like almost anything

The daul weild question is interesting as a scimitar would be unlikely to be dual wileded as its primarily a cavalry weapon like its cousin the sabre. that is why its curved and single edged.

The most effective dual weild blades are actually short swords of the xiphos configuration which were 40 cm long leave shaped blades that can stab or slash and are short so they are easy to track and manipulate without tangling. Its a bit like dual weilding handaxes which is again another very effective technique.

Quote from: Omega;759565DMG says subdual applies to mugging more than just dragons.

And it was fairly straightforward too. Damage converted to subdual. 75% was temp. 25% was owies. Applied to humanoids, etc.

I was referring to the percentage chance that a Dragon would surrender, not referring to bonking someone on the head to capture them with less lethal damage.  



Kobolds did not have the chance to surrender, Dragons did.

Quote from: estar;757713Not enough polearms.

They have betrayed the Gygax!!

Quote from: jibbajibba;759676The most effective dual weild blades are actually short swords of the xiphos configuration which were 40 cm long leave shaped blades that can stab or slash and are short so they are easy to track and manipulate without tangling. Its a bit like dual weilding handaxes which is again another very effective technique.

Look at what escrima fighters do, right?  Sticks (which could be knives) of about that length.

Whenever I see an Escrima guy bust some ass in a Martial Arts movie I always think how much more badass he would be with shortswords.

Quote from: CRKrueger;759995Whenever I see an Escrima guy bust some ass in a Martial Arts movie I always think how much more badass he would be with shortswords.

You'd be objectively wrong, sir!

Controlling movement, pinpoint strikes, Escrima sticks for the win.

Quote from: Silverlion;760122You'd be objectively wrong, sir!

Controlling movement, pinpoint strikes, Escrima sticks for the win.

Yeah yeah, tell that to the guys who lost to the Spanish.

Seriously though, I'm talking about the movies.  Hit a guy 500 times is cool and all, but way better to use swords.  Look at The Raid, awesome movie, but he was best when he was just fucking people up with knives like a true Silat practitioner rather then going unarmed like every other martial art movie.

Quote from: LibraryLass;759217Shiva had a trident, I think.

Indeed he did!

Quote from: jibbajibba;759269They have Oberyn Martell

If you look across cultures, they also have a half-dozen or so heroes from Romance of the Three Kingdoms; at least one of whom became a god...