Quote from: Ghost Whistler;573391What i'm saying is that surely the point of this kind of crowd funding is that the project gets funded by a lot of people paying (at least) a little. You decide to offer more because a) you want the project to succeed and b) you want the extras they offer at the higher levels. But everyone who ponies up at least something should get a copy of the final product in whatever form it's going to be printed.

I understand your logic about the more $ pledged should drive the price down. This KS even recognises that. I don't see how you make the leap to a person pledging any $ should get a PDF though.

On a practical level, you can't retrospectively change the initial price of the book via KS. People pledge at a set level for set rewards. You can acknowledge the economy of scale and dropping price through stretch goals though. I am pretty sure we will see those soon. At least, that's the process most KS I have seen have used. Have you had first hand experiences with KS that have retrospectively dropped prices?

Quote from: Ladybird;573415No. They can pledge at whatever level they want, but it's up to the publisher what the reward tiers are. In this case, sub-$13 pledges are eplicitly "for support". As always, people are aware of the deals and can choose whichever they like, if any.

You're saying people should be able to get the PDF for $1.

I'm not telling people what to do. Let's make that clear. If someone wants to setup a kickstarter they can do as they please.

What I am saying is taht if you want to publish a pdf rpg that costs x and you want to raise x, surely having done so it costs no more to allow everyone that's supported you a copy. Maybe it's different with physicl products for obvious reasons, but once your pdf is made, infinite copies can be run off.

Isn't the bueaty of these kind of funding systems that people can donate large or small amounts as they see fit. From each according to his ability to each according to his need. ONce the total has been reached then why not?

I have no problem then with selling that product to people beyond those that donated once it's finished. If that makes some extra money that can be used later for supplements or even for the creator to buy a new TV then good luck to him.

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;573445From each according to his ability to each according to his need.

Did you even contribute before you started complaining about where the money was being spent?

EDIT: wait wait wait

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Ya cheap bastard.

Better red than dead.

I haven't backed the product at all, nor have I complained about where the money was being spent.

If I did back something it would only be in a way that guarantees me a copy of the product otherwise I'd be paying twice which is stupid.

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;573472Better red than dead.

Party assassins watching your internet posts are a regular problem where you live?

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;573472I haven't backed the product at all

It was funnier the other way. Inciting a communist revolution to hustle eight bucks would have been inscribed for all time in the Mighty Missal of Misers.

Quote from: The Traveller;573488Party assassins watching your internet posts are a regular problem where you live?


It was funnier the other way. Inciting a communist revolution to hustle eight bucks would have been inscribed for all time in the Mighty Missal of Misers.

Party assassins? Like Ninjas that do kid's birthdays? Clowns with garottes?

400% funded in just over 4 days

Two stretch goals met and two bigguns coming up fast - the prewritten scenario with pregens and print copies of the DLC.

Andy Kitowski will be answering questions about the game in #rpgnet chat this Thursday (see calendar in my sig below).

I've seen the galleys of the two books and they are gorgeous. They did a great job keeping the visual look and feel of the F.E.A.R. edition. Tenra is also a fun game to play, a real change of pace full of weird ideas.

Thirty six grand and climbing, any bets it'll top the hundred before it closes? Good day's work, all told. I wonder is it Japanophiles primarily paying into this?

Quote from: The Traveller;574561Thirty six grand and climbing, any bets it'll top the hundred before it closes? Good day's work, all told. I wonder is it Japanophiles primarily paying into this?

I'm not a japanophile, but the game sounds good, and the short-campaign nature of it sounds a great fit for our club.

Anime has never interested me.

Ever.

Quote from: The Traveller;574561Thirty six grand and climbing, any bets it'll top the hundred before it closes? Good day's work, all told. I wonder is it Japanophiles primarily paying into this?

it's probably the main reason why i'm contributing.  anime/manga fan first, game concept second.

Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;574607Anime has never interested me.

Ever.

I have been a fan since Transformers. It was hard growing up in the 80s and not gain an appreciation. It was cemented when I watched Nausicaa and Records of Lodoss War (I was a sucker for an actual D&D game done well as a TV show).

I am not as big a fan of manga which TBZ is more closely connected to, mostly as its more difficult and expensive.

I am a huge fan of gritty, hard boiled samurai movies though, like the kind the creator of TBZ is, Yojimbo, Sanjuro, Zatoichi, Lone Wolf and Cub etc.  I see TBZ being very much the fantasy RPG to those movies that D&D is to Tolkien

I did like the D&D cartoon.  Still do.