Quote from: nDervish;959876So does this mean that the system in TSL is bulked up a bit compared to Talislanta 4/5?  Or am I just missing something in Tal4/5 because I've only been reading it and haven't played it yet?  Because Tal strikes me as much, much lighter-weight than SW.

No. It's been streamlined. Closer to 2e. Plus since formal magic doesn't exist as it does in Tal1-5, that slims down a lot of the crunch right there. Even with the streamlining, with the addition of the Tribal rules section, it's probably too much of a shift.

I find Tal's general core-mechanics about as light as Savage Worlds mainly because you do have reactive opposed rolls in some cases, and the basic math complexity is probably about the same for on-the-fly calculation. I wouldn't say either one is greatly more/less crunchy than the other, they just have different expressions.

In SW you're calculating based on 4 or opposed  number checks for levels of "successes". In Talislanta you're calculating based on opposed skills as penalities, OR direct rolls, and those differences indicate quality of success on (usually) a single roll. So it's a matter of where you, as a GM, want to add your abstraction-flavor for description. I still stand by my assertion in terms of crunch, they're in the same weight-class. (which incidentally happens to be where I currently like my RPGs).

Quote from: Dumarest;960017Was Talislanta the game that used to have ads in The Dragon saying, "No elves!" or something like that? I think I saw a copy in the used shelf of the local game store a while back.

Yep that's Talislanta!

Quote from: Dumarest;960017Is it still being done by whoever created it way back when?

Steve Sechi created it. He oversaw the production of this iteration. The rest of us are life-long fans that have been playing and some worked on previous editions. So it's still in the family.

I've always been tangentially interested in this setting, but as I've made my stance against Kickstarter, I'm going to wait until the books/PDFs to come out and I'll squeeze some pennies that way.  I like the new (Old?  Prequel?) setting conceit of a Hyborean age of sorts for it.

Really glad I backed this early means I got all the versions I wanted and the soundtrack.

Really can't go wrong with a setting that caters to different rule oriented groups. What an awesome way to find common ground regardless of what your playing.

Quote from: Dumarest;960017Was Talislanta the game that used to have ads in The Dragon saying, "No elves!" or something like that? >>
Yes.

<< I had no idea it was still a going concern. >>

This is a new version of the game set in an earlier era.

<< Is it still being done by whoever created it way back when?

>>

Yes

Quote from: HorusArisen;960180Really glad I backed this early means I got all the versions I wanted and the soundtrack.

Really can't go wrong with a setting that caters to different rule oriented groups. What an awesome way to find common ground regardless of what your playing.

Thanks for backing us, Horus! Much appreciated. Thanks also to everyone else here who backed the KS campaign!

Quote from: stevesechi;960192Thanks for backing us, Horus! Much appreciated. Thanks also to everyone else here who backed the KS campaign!

I can honestly say best spontaneous decision in ages setting looks fantastic and with so many options I can start my players with 5e and gateway drug them into omni or savage worlds

Quick question if you don't mind, will there be an option to add the SW PDF to my purchase? No interest in pathfinder but I'd like to have the four rule sets.

Quote from: tenbones;741524**EDIT Talislanta Kickstarter is LIVE** https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1861515217/talislanta-the-savage-land?ref=nav_search



Couldn't see if this was posted anywhere - if so, feel free to delete it.


From the creator of Talislanta Steven Sechi via FB:

   

Since that post it has been officially confirmed that there will be a new Talislanta book, currently and tentatively titled "The Savage Land". There is consideration that it will also be an old-school box-set, that part isn't confirmed, but it's looking very likely.

To which I say -

Take my moneys now.

Could/should this be the entry into this setting? Also, how "Conan-esque" is it? I ask because while I love 5e and Blades in the Dark as fantasy (admittedly extremely varied themes of it!), I am craving an interesting setting with a not-too-crunchy system that captures Howard's Conan stuff. A wee dash of Warhammer Fantasy (in the tone of the setting, but lightly) and proceed.

Quote from: Alderaan Crumbs;960230Could/should this be the entry into this setting? Also, how "Conan-esque" is it? I ask because while I love 5e and Blades in the Dark as fantasy (admittedly extremely varied themes of it!), I am craving an interesting setting with a not-too-crunchy system that captures Howard's Conan stuff. A wee dash of Warhammer Fantasy (in the tone of the setting, but lightly) and proceed.

It makes Conan look like 'Strawberry Shortcake' the RPG, frankly. This is by the very implications of the setting. It's like a fantasy Mad Max's wasteland on magical steroids. My opinion is that Conan's Hyborea is more developed socially. That's not to say there aren't races and locations that aren't as developed (by implication it could be far more advanced than anything Hyborea has ever seen) but those places are rare and likely dangerous. This would be the perfect place to step into Talislanta.

Conan the Cimmerian himself would have a good time in TSL. It would be right up his alley.

What's the system like? I prefer fast and loose but useable crunch. Along the lines of Cypher, if that helps.

"Strawberry Conan" needs to exist.

Quote from: Alderaan Crumbs;960262What's the system like? I prefer fast and loose but useable crunch. Along the lines of Cypher, if that helps.

"Strawberry Conan" needs to exist.

The core mechanic of the TSL game system is simple. Determine modifiers based on your and/or your opponent's Attributes and Skills, roll a d20 and consult the Action Table.:

0 or less = Critical Failure — the attempted action fails miserably, resulting in negative additional consequences of some sort (GM's ruling based on the intent of the action and prevailing circumstances).
1-5 = Failure — the action fails to achieve the stated intent.
6-10 = Partial Success — the action is moderately successful, and achieves some of of the desired intent (such as half-damage from an attack).
11-19 = Success — the action achieves the desired result.
20+ = Critical Success — the action is even more successful than intended, achieving the stated intent and also yielding additional benefits of some sort. The GM determines the additional results based on the circumstances.

Stats are an average of 0. They can range from -5 to +5 and these are direct modifiers to your rolls. So it's Stat + Skill vs. target number (modifier) and consult the table. Easy. If you're doing combat, your opposing player's skill + stat as your modifier.

There are other combat maneuvers and environmental modifiers including called shots, multiple-attacks, bypassing armor, stunts, etc. that will also let you modify the roll. Pretty straightforward.

Bah. I missed the KS, just didn't have the budget for it.  My record of not backing KS's remains unbroken despite my best intentions!

Quote from: HorusArisen;960223Quick question if you don't mind, will there be an option to add the SW PDF to my purchase? No interest in pathfinder but I'd like to have the four rule sets.

If you backed at an "all three PDFs" level, and did so prior to the announcement of the PF/SW versions being added, then you should be grandfathered in to get all five PDFs at no extra cost.

Unless I've completely misunderstood something.  But I'm pretty sure that's how it works.  And, if I'm wrong, I'm going to be very disappointed with myself for misunderstanding and missing out on the opportunity to upgrade my pledge.

Quote from: nDervish;960334If you backed at an "all three PDFs" level, and did so prior to the announcement of the PF/SW versions being added, then you should be grandfathered in to get all five PDFs at no extra cost.

Unless I've completely misunderstood something.  But I'm pretty sure that's how it works.  And, if I'm wrong, I'm going to be very disappointed with myself for misunderstanding and missing out on the opportunity to upgrade my pledge.

I don't think it does but I have zero interest in Pathfinder so we not going to make the jump with that included.

Actually rereading it I might happily be wrong