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Tales of The Valiant

Started by Darrin Kelley, June 30, 2024, 12:26:39 AM

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Exploderwizard

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July 16, 2024, 05:36:13 PM
Quote from: Orphan81 on July 16, 2024, 02:58:17 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on July 16, 2024, 02:28:12 PMInvulnerability to the side effects of the speed/fast/haste spell for one, so you can cast it on yourself (or have it cast on yourself) without suffering ANY bad side effects.

Not aging sure as fuck isn't "nothing".

Yes they took all the consequence of using certain magic out of the game a long time ago, as well as any spell durations longer than "encounter" length. Some of the reasons why it isn't great for running actual campaigns.

Not aging has zero effect on the Haste Spell. In either 5th edition ot ToV
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weirdguy564

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July 17, 2024, 08:55:39 PM
So, question time.

Is it safe to say that Tales of the Valiant is the closest to being a 5E clone that is available?
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Wednesday

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July 18, 2024, 05:46:46 AM
Quote from: weirdguy564 on July 17, 2024, 08:55:39 PMSo, question time.

Is it safe to say that Tales of the Valiant is the closest to being a 5E clone that is available?
I would say it most certainly is. The Black Flag SRD is very much just the 5e SRD reprinted under a new license with very minor changes in some areas. Personally I would go as far to say that ToV is the slightly superior version of 5e, but that's personal preference and your mileage may vary.
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Aglondir

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July 18, 2024, 06:13:39 PM Last Edit: July 18, 2024, 06:15:58 PM by Aglondir
Quote from: weirdguy564 on July 17, 2024, 08:55:39 PMSo, question time.

Is it safe to say that Tales of the Valiant is the closest to being a 5E clone that is available?

I don't own TotV, but RPGBot has posted a "5e to Tales of the Valiant Transition Guide." With close to 8 screens of changes listed, it looks like more of a 5.5 than a clone.

https://rpgbot.net/tov/transition-guide/

Man at Arms

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July 18, 2024, 11:46:10 PM
I'm ok with others trying to out-D&D, WOTC.

Y'all go get 'em!!!
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