While I could offer a wishlist of things that would make the game written to my peculiar tastes, what I want most out of T5 is a version of Traveller that will appeal to new players as well as beardy old veterans of the Frontier Wars.

Quote from: Pierce Inverarityb) hardish tech, updated in a fashion that is neither cyberpunk nor transhumanist

I think that's a very good way to put this sentiment.

Quote from: Pierce Inverarityc) absence of rubber-suit aliens (Hivers and K'Kree can stay, Aslan and Vargr are out)

I think the Aslan and Vargr are, for better or worse, an integral element of Traveller and at least the setting (via the Ancients) has a rationale for things like them to exist.

So, people have a problem with the Aslan and Vargr but not the various humans on other worlds like the Zhodani and Vilani?

Oh well, anyhow I just found this!

http://www.genreconnections.com/shop/home.php?cat=288

Maybe I'll be buying T5 after all.  I'm a total whore when it comes to miniatures.

The perfect version of CT is MT, so I´d appreciate an actually innovative swipe at the Traveller universe.

TN:E was the nineties, and the early 2000s have been brought in with T:20.

Every edition brought some cool new shit, most of the time with huge cross edition usability, just think FF&S and Pocket Empires.

I want more new stuff instead of a new take on a basic book.

Holy crap!  Thanks for that link!

Quote from: John MorrowI think the Aslan and Vargr are, for better or worse, an integral element of Traveller and at least the setting (via the Ancients) has a rationale for things like them to exist.

Not to mention they are probably the most playable aliens.

I don't think the average player could do a K'kree or Hiver justice.

Quote from: Caesar SlaadNot to mention they are probably the most playable aliens.

I don't think the average player could do a K'kree or Hiver justice.

 QFT - for almost every version of TRAVELLER

- Ed C.

Players playing aliens? In Traveller??? The horror. Nonplayability of aliens = feature not bug. IMTU, anyway...

When I finally read 2300AD a few months ago, I realized that in many ways my Traveller has always been just a larger version of 2300AD. No Star Wars cantina as this melting pot of half a dozen different races.

I understand that's just me... on the other hand, Vargr and Aslanesque races seem to have gone radically out of fashion in SF RPGs. They're not going to appeal to people raised on Transhuman Space.

Funny thing is that over the years I've observed that the people who dislike Aslan and Vargr are the same ones who'll tell you that your pet dog or cat is impossibly alien.

Vargr might be dog people but they're still bloody complex and different dog people.  The Aslan aren't even really cat people, they're pouncers with a limited form follows function similarity to cats that the humans have latched onto.

Now Spacemaster Privateers has cat people and dog people who are very much fable-type animal people in the sense of animals representing personality types, which is one of the reasons I've always thought it would appeal more with anime-style art.

Quote from: Pierce InverarityPlayers playing aliens? In Traveller??? The horror. Nonplayability of aliens = feature not bug. IMTU, anyway...
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Yeah, i prefer my PCs as humans as well.

David, for me it's simply that I dislike the idea of first creating this vast boundless universe, the great unknown... and then populating it with derivates of Terran cats and dogs (and horseys) for playability reasons... and THEN writing that hokey Grandfather story in order to justify it. It all just makes the universe too terra-centric for my taste.

Form follows function so I suspect if we ever get out there we'll see more of the same at least some of the time.

Grandfather, on the other hand was ass.  Ancient architects have always been ass where ever they rear their ugly heads.  Well except the Celestials in Marvel comics and that's only because Jack Kirby is so cool that he trumps all reason.

Quote from: David JohansenJack Kirby is so cool that he trumps all reason.

This is the most accurate statement made on the internet, about anything, ever.

Kafer and Eber are one of the bestest Aliens in fiction that evar was.

[Let me tell you about my character]"A veteran of the Scout (8 years) and Contact (6 years) services, Blanchard, whom everyone calls C.J., has lately been lingering at a desk job at the IEX, a self-imposed exile from active duty. An IEX mission to a remote Eber settlement on Kormoran had ended in carnage when C.J. failed to “read” the Eber chief’s attitude* towards his visitors correctly and in the resulting tension the leader of the accompanying IEX security detail ordered his men to open fire on the Ebers."[/Let me tell you about my character]

*I.e., he had switched brain lobes(?) in mid-discussion, from the diplomat to the warrior brain (I don't have the Rangers supplement, so I'm working with infraweb info on the Ebers).