This thread is in desperate need of NSP's wisdom!

[video=youtube;yWXIZk2kTKQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWXIZk2kTKQ[/youtube]

Quote from: Doc Sammy;1091171You sir, are a faggot.

Quote from: Doc Sammy;1091171I never understood why people are so hateful towards gays and bisexuals?

Dweeb, you just answered your own question. TOLERATE MY LIFESTYLE OR I WILL RAIN HATE ON YOU!!!! isn't a winning formula long term.

I don't agree with rgrove's stance, but in the USA we have FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION in our private lives and in our homes. Everyone is free to their personal opinions and choices of whom with to spend their free time.

Personally, I think rgrove is using the wrong metric to determine who may or may not be on "his side", but across social media we hear daily how people will not speak to friends/relatives who voted "wrong" or who don't accept their stance on any number of things. It's a completely accepted policy on college campus to segregate by skin color and only associate with "your own kind".

So it's rather disingenuous to freak on rgrove for doing the exact same thing we see praised in the MSM.  

But like everyone who limits their world to X people, rgrove will miss out on some cool people.

Quote from: Doc Sammy;1091171Are you really going to get pissed at someone for what they do in their private lives if it doesn't affect your gaming life?

No. We're gonna leave that to you. Dork.

Quote from: Doc Sammy;1091171Are you going to stop eating pork and shrimp or stop watching porn because that's technically the same as committing actual IRL adultery?

Real Americans eat bacon wrapped shrimp one handed!

Quote from: moonsweeper;1091174So...you're saying that we're the punk rockers of the RPG world...

That is pretty fuckin' awesome! :cool:

Fuck yeah! I'm on the Slayer/Anthrax side of the punk rock family. I'm not a fan of "pure" punk, prefer hybrids like Hatebreed and Rob Zombie, but I'm eternally grateful the punk genre gave so much to heavy metal.

Quote from: Doc Sammy;1091175Already built the lararium and I'm checking the prices of live chickens at Tractor Supply Company and in the local trading posts.

Don't confuse your religion with animal cruelty. Killing animals with minimum suffering requires some skill.

Also, you will probably run afoul of local laws.

Yes, I said afoul.

Quote from: Doc Sammy;1091171You sir, are a faggot. Or a troll. I can't tell at this point because we're living in an age where Poe's Law is in full effect...[/snip]

Sammy... You just made some assumptions on rgrove about being a bigot (which is clearly true, but who cares?) then turn around and personally attack him...

Then you go on a tirade about how much *you* dislike that very same community while virtue signalling about you being a bisexual with your own weird beliefs when no one asked you.

That shit is hilarious. Unintentionally. You two should have a "debate thread" in Pundits forum. I would totally watch that.


Edit: Spinachat!!! I had written a much longer response similar to yours. Then I realized "wtf is the point?" enjoy the show while it lasts. Better - let's stage a bigger production on Pundit's forum.

Doc Sammy is the dumbest fucking idiot I've ever seen on a forum. Spazzes out on some douche being a bigot about gays and goes all bigot on transsexuals. Amazing. But of course what do expect from some moron who thinks the Czar Nicholas II was a saint. Fucking Christ on a stick.

Oh, and Sword Dream would be dumb if it were an actual serious thing.

We're working on Wokefinder: the Sword Dreaming in another thread!!

At least, that's my favorite name for it!

I almost feel bad for the retarded clowns in their Phallus Weapon Wet PJs Club. The OSR has ZERO gatekeepers and everyone is welcome to interpret anything old school through their personal perspective and publish it unfettered.

Oh wait...that's what they don't about the OSR. These clowns hate the freedom the OSR offers.

How.
Not.
Surprising.

Quote from: Machinegun Blue;1091209Doc Sammy is the dumbest fucking idiot I've ever seen on a forum. Spazzes out on some douche being a bigot about gays and goes all bigot on transsexuals. Amazing. But of course what do expect from some moron who thinks the Czar Nicholas II was a saint. Fucking Christ on a stick.

Eh, it takes one to know one.

And I don't hate actual transgender people (as in those with actual gender dysphoria) it's the bandwagon fakers I hate.

Forgive me if I was not clearer on that.

Also, Nicholas II may not have been a "saint" but he was a fuckton better than Lenin or Stalin.

But we're getting off-topic, let's focus on why Sword Dream is a crock of shit.

Quote from: tenbones;1091202Sammy... You just made some assumptions on rgrove about being a bigot (which is clearly true, but who cares?) then turn around and personally attack him...

Then you go on a tirade about how much *you* dislike that very same community while virtue signalling about you being a bisexual with your own weird beliefs when no one asked you.

That shit is hilarious. Unintentionally. You two should have a "debate thread" in Pundits forum. I would totally watch that.


Edit: Spinachat!!! I had written a much longer response similar to yours. Then I realized "wtf is the point?" enjoy the show while it lasts. Better - let's stage a bigger production on Pundit's forum.

Eh, I admit that you and Spinachat have a point.

rgrove was giving me some serious "redneck" vibes and I admit I spazzed out like the idiot I am.

But to get the fuck back on topic, Sword Dream is basically an attempt to politicize the OSR and it's gonna fail because it doesn't understand what the OSR is.

Guys? Please keep the conversation gaming-relevant and leave the sexuality debates to Pundit's forum. Thanks!

Agreed. This thread is going down a rabbit hole that I don't think any of us want it to go in, and none of our reactions will help matters.

Let's focus on why Sword Dream will fail harder than Vampire: The Masquerade 5th Edition.

The majority of the OSR have spoken and don't want identity politics shoehorned into their games. Unlike Pathfinder or the World of Darkness, the OSR is not a curated franchise owned by a handful of people but it is instead a DIY movement that is driven by a multitude of creators.

TL;DR-If you don't like the other OSR games, then make your own goddamn OSR game and stop trying to hijack the entire movement!

Quote from: Doc Sammy;1091223Agreed. This thread is going down a rabbit hole that I don't think any of us want it to go in, and none of our reactions will help matters.

Let's focus on why Sword Dream will fail harder than Vampire: The Masquerade 5th Edition.

The majority of the OSR have spoken and don't want identity politics shoehorned into their games. Unlike Pathfinder or the World of Darkness, the OSR is not a curated franchise owned by a handful of people but it is instead a DIY movement that is driven by a multitude of creators.

TL;DR-If you don't like the other OSR games, then make your own goddamn OSR game and stop trying to hijack the entire movement!

Which is why they will ultimately fail at co-opting the hobby, they can't stop us from making our own games, if needed we can sell mimeographed copies out of the trunk of a car.

Quote from: GeekyBugle;1091226Which is why they will ultimately fail at co-opting the hobby, they can't stop us from making our own games, if needed we can sell mimeographed copies out of the trunk of a car.

Amen! The OSR will never capitulate to the outrage brigades!

Quote from: Spinachcat;1091214We're working on Wokefinder: the Sword Dreaming in another thread!!

At least, that's my favorite name for it!

I almost feel bad for the retarded clowns in their Phallus Weapon Wet PJs Club. The OSR has ZERO gatekeepers and everyone is welcome to interpret anything old school through their personal perspective and publish it unfettered.

Oh wait...that's what they don't about the OSR. These clowns hate the freedom the OSR offers.

How.
Not.
Surprising.

This is the problem I have about the Sword Dreaming thing. You know, but without the insults.

Quote from: GeekyBugle;1091226Which is why they will ultimately fail at co-opting the hobby, they can't stop us from making our own games, if needed we can sell mimeographed copies out of the trunk of a car.

Which is what I thought the OSR was partly about.

Quote from: Doc Sammy;1091227Amen! The OSR will never capitulate to the outrage brigades!

They could make some designers/developers bend the knee, but how are they going to force us all to tow their line? How are they going to make Pundit, me and other Developers to fire ourselves?

Quote from: Machinegun Blue;1091230Which is what I thought the OSR was partly about.

Ein? the OSR is partly about what?