Quote from: JRT;1090736I personally like the way Steve Jackson and Frog God handled it.  They just ignored and didn't pay much attention to it, not giving them fuel for the fire, and let the audience decide.

Not to mention that despite the best efforts of the perpetually offended regressive rpg gaming SJWS, both companies kickstarters despite the rpg SJWs best efforts were extremely successful. Showing those same SJWS that gamers at large not only don't give a shit about them being offended it also shows how irrelevant they are to the hobby. They can't really complain when despite their best efforts everyone else in the hobby gave them two middle fingers and did exactly the opposite of what the SJWS wanted them too.

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1090721Anyone tired of the culture war threads can act like an adult, and focus on the rpg stuff. Be the change you want to see, and all that.

The rpg.net d20 forum has a lot of rpg stuff and not much culture war stuff. I'm finding a lot to read or reply to there recently, both 5e and OSR-relevant. It's annoying that I can't bring up ACKS there when Alex had a good solution to a problem, but in practice less annoying than the constant stuff getting in the way of looking for elfgame inspiration on this forum.

Quote from: Naburimannu;1091050but in practice less annoying than the constant stuff getting in the way of looking for elfgame inspiration on this forum.

Somebody post a Elfgame Inspiration thread!!!

You kids with low post counts need to start threads about shiznack that interests you!!

Lurkers! De-lurk and start a thread about something you'd love to read about.

Quote from: sureshot;1091047Not to mention that despite the best efforts of the perpetually offended regressive rpg gaming SJWS, both companies kickstarters despite the rpg SJWs best efforts were extremely successful. Showing those same SJWS that gamers at large not only don't give a shit about them being offended it also shows how irrelevant they are to the hobby. They can't really complain when despite their best efforts everyone else in the hobby gave them two middle fingers and did exactly the opposite of what the SJWS wanted them too.

Best efforts? They don't even care about it at all themselves it seems, at least on rpg.net.

Here's The Wyzard in April, indignant and boycotting Steve Jackson Games and The Fantasy Trip until they change their tune, wanting to wash his hands of the entire company.
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Then here he is in May upset that he couldn't back the most recent The Fantasy Trip kickstarter.
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Here he is on June 7th, merrily talking about The Fantasy Trip again.

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Did Steve Jackson Games change their tune somewhere between April and June? No. So, the boycott seems to be dropped, or at least the whole washing his hands of the company (it is after all possible he isn't actually buying any more stuff for the game). In fact, after talk of the game was almost completely dead for a couple of months, the latest thread asking about the game starts with one reply not even talking about the game but rather only linking to one of the earlier locked threads (conveniently one that was locked before Bill Webb and BJ Hensley put out a joint statement for everyone to chill the fuck out) and the poster admitting they actually have no clue about the actual game, the rest of the thread is just a bunch of people talking about the game and explaining various aspects of it.

So all those people on rpg.net who earlier were all "no more SJG stuff for me"? I'd be willing to bet that most of them had either no or almost no SJG stuff to begin with, or that they quickly changed their tune and never actually went through with purging their collections or whatever. it was just a bunch of hot air at the time, that gets forgotten or amended later. I mean, I'm sure some of them cooled down when that joint statement was put out, but it isn't like anyone publicly said anything. The whole thing just got quietly dropped after a series of locked threads. And after a short period in the doghouse, discussion of TFT is now happening over there again.

...and so it goes.

For me it's simple. I dont like gay and transgender people. They don't like me either. I try to be polite and maintain a healthy distance, especially when trying to be entertained so...nope they dont play my games and I sure as shit dont play theirs.

Quote from: rgrove0172;1091128For me it's simple. I dont like gay and transgender people. They don't like me either. I try to be polite and maintain a healthy distance, especially when trying to be entertained so...nope they dont play my games and I sure as shit dont play theirs.

Congratulations for being a bigot I guess?

Quote from: Blankman;1091122I'd be willing to bet that most of them had either no or almost no SJG stuff to begin with, or that they quickly changed their tune and never actually went through with purging their collections or whatever.

Correct. But the bandwagon must go on.

Quote from: rgrove0172;1091128For me it's simple. I dont like gay and transgender people. They don't like me either. I try to be polite and maintain a healthy distance, especially when trying to be entertained so...nope they dont play my games and I sure as shit dont play theirs.

You sir, are a faggot. Or a troll. I can't tell at this point because we're living in an age where Poe's Law is in full effect.

Don't get me wrong, the trannies are annoying as fuck and the LGBT community is better off without them.

Seriously, take it from a guy who is openly bisexual, not all queers are whiny SJW's and the sane people in the gay and lesbian community hate the SJW's with a burning passion.

It's mostly just the trannies and radfem dangerhair lesbians that drink the SJW kool-aid (and Carlos Mazza too, but he's an asshole)

I never understood why people are so hateful towards gays and bisexuals?

I get the hate directed at SJW's but there are a lot of cool queers who aren't into the Identity Politics bullshit and just want to enjoy a good game of D&D.

Are you really going to get pissed at someone for what they do in their private lives if it doesn't affect your gaming life?

And before you invoke "muh Biblical morality", do you really want to base your life on a book about an abusive tyrant sky daddy that was written by old dead Jews from the Iron Age?

What next? Are you going to stop eating pork and shrimp or stop watching porn because that's technically the same as committing actual IRL adultery? Come on!

If you don't like the idea of men having sex with men, I get that. But that can be remedied by you just not having sex with other men and leaving it at that.

I don't see why you feel like complaining about what other consenting adults do in the privacy of their own homes just because some dick of a deity says it's an "abomination" and in the process limiting your gaming pool.

It's not that big of a deal.

And before you play the "atheist fedora strawman" card, I'm not an atheist. I find most outspoken atheists to be every bit as unbearable and insufferable as the fundie Christians and Islamists. Paganism FTW!

And I'm talking real Roman Paganism, not that fake hippie Wicca bullshit.

Quote from: Doc Sammy;1091171And I'm talking real Roman Paganism, not that fake hippie Wicca bullshit.

    You don't get to call it real until you start offering sacrifices.

Quote from: Spinachcat;1091024But that's fine. Anyone who wants to actually understand theRPGsite can see that its a free speech free-for-all mosh pit where there will be plenty of fiery opinions launched without fear of moderation. What we are is freedom, chaos, creativity and rage.

So...you're saying that we're the punk rockers of the RPG world...

That is pretty fuckin' awesome! :cool:

Quote from: Armchair Gamer;1091173You don't get to call it real until you start offering sacrifices.

Hey, I'm working on it! Might take a while because I'm limited on funds but ol' Sammy is getting there.

Already built the lararium and I'm checking the prices of live chickens at Tractor Supply Company and in the local trading posts.

And Armchair Gamer, there is a difference between guys like you and assholes like rgrove.

You are a Christian and a truly devout one at that, and I can respect someone who is truly faithful. You disagree with homosexuality because you believe it goes against your God's will, but I doubt you would turn someone from your gaming table solely because they were gay or bi but were otherwise pretty chill.

rgrove strikes me more as a redneck dickhead who would simply go and use his misinterpretation of the Bible to justify his preexisting bigotry.

Your Christianity is like that of JRR Tolkien and the Knights Hospitaller, while his is like that of Fred Phelps and the Puritan colonists.

Quote from: moonsweeper;1091174So...you're saying that we're the punk rockers of the RPG world...

That is pretty fuckin' awesome! :cool:

Nah, we're cooler than that. We're the heavy metal of the RPG world.

RPGnet are the punk rockers, seeing as they are pretentious contrarians who preach conformity through a veneer of nonconformity.

Quote from: Doc Sammy;1091175You are a Christian and a truly devout one at that, and I can respect someone who is truly faithful. You disagree with homosexuality because you believe but I doubt you would turn someone from your gaming table solely because they were gay or bi but were otherwise pretty chill..

    My last gaming group included two self-identified gay men and a bisexual woman. They were also all committed to doing their best to live by Catholic teaching, and this was a group made up mostly of current and former students in Theology and Religious Studies at a Catholic university, so it's probably not the norm.

Quote from: Armchair Gamer;1091176My last gaming group included two self-identified gay men and a bisexual woman. They were also all committed to doing their best to live by Catholic teaching, and this was a group made up mostly of current and former students in Theology and Religious Studies at a Catholic university, so it's probably not the norm.

That's good, and I can respect that. Like I said, you believe in Catholicism because you truly believe it is righteous and as far as I can tell, you walk the walk.

I admire that, even if I don't personally agree with a large chunk of Catholic theology.

rgrove says he doesn't let LGBT people into his gaming group but I'd be ten dollars he doesn't even know which verses in the Bible express any prohibitions against homosexuality or any other verses relating to morality.

Quote from: rgrove0172;1091128For me it's simple. I dont like gay and transgender people. They don't like me either. I try to be polite and maintain a healthy distance, especially when trying to be entertained so...nope they dont play my games and I sure as shit dont play theirs.