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Sword Dream: Leftist OSR

Started by Lurtch, June 02, 2019, 08:47:08 AM

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Rhedyn

Celebrating physical diversity implies that you think physical traits cause certain mental perspectives. In current progressive ideology, it's not that all people are equal, it's that differences are better but those same people should be given special advantages.

OSR developers also have a great diversity of thought. That's what bothers internet slacktivists.

pdboddy

Quote from: Omega;1097739It does not.
The colour of a persons skin, or their gender, or whatever, is absolutely irrelevant to a persons ability to write a good game or do a good piece of art, or run a company, or whatever.

In a perfect world, this would be true, the ability to do those things is irrelevant to skin colour and gender and so on.

In a world where one's gender or skin colour can affect the education one receives and the chances to advance to areas of higher learning, thus affecting things like the ability to write a good game, paint or run a company, skin colour and gender can be very relevant.  If only to point out the effects of racism and misogyny on the ability to create.
 

Alderaan Crumbs

#197
Quote from: Rhedyn;1097781Celebrating physical diversity implies that you think physical traits cause certain mental perspectives. In current progressive ideology, it's not that all people are equal, it's that differences are better but those same people should be given special advantages.

OSR developers also have a great diversity of thought. That's what bothers internet slacktivists.

You took the words right out of my mouth.

Quote from: pdboddy;1097791In a perfect world, this would be true, the ability to do those things is irrelevant to skin colour and gender and so on.

In a world where one's gender or skin colour can affect the education one receives and the chances to advance to areas of higher learning, thus affecting things like the ability to write a good game, paint or run a company, skin colour and gender can be very relevant.  If only to point out the effects of racism and misogyny on the ability to create.

AFAIK Mike Pondsmith has been black most...likely all...of his life. He's created one of the most endearing and enduring RPGs ever. Nobody really knew it then or likely cared because it's a great game. It's only an issue now because of all this stupid SJW nonsense and its obsession with infantilizing blacks and women so they can be used.
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pdboddy

Quote from: Alderaan Crumbs;1097792AFAIK Mike Pondsmith has been black most...likely all...of his life. He's created one of the most endearing and enduring RPGs ever. Nobody really knew it then or likely cared because it's a great game. It's only an issue now because of all this stupid SJW nonsense and its obsession with infantilizing blacks and women so they can be used.

It's not an issue to people who aren't SJW.  Pondsmith's a cool dude, and he's created several endearing and enduring RPGs.  He'll still be doing cool stuff long after the SJW fad blows away in the dust.
 

blackstone

Quote from: Slambo;1097727Imo diversity of ideas is important.

...and that includes ideas you don't like hearing about. That's REAL freedom.
1. I'm a married homeowner with a career and kids. I won life. You can't insult me.

2. I've been deployed to Iraq, so your tough guy act is boring.

WillInNewHaven

Quote from: RPGPundit;1097625They're incapable of actually creating, at least anything that isn't abject drivel. The goal from the beginning was just to try to destroy the OSR, and it failed.

Sort of like Morgoth  and Sauron except not as interesting.

Omega

Quote from: pdboddy;1097791In a perfect world, this would be true, the ability to do those things is irrelevant to skin colour and gender and so on.

In a world where one's gender or skin colour can affect the education one receives and the chances to advance to areas of higher learning, thus affecting things like the ability to write a good game, paint or run a company, skin colour and gender can be very relevant.  If only to point out the effects of racism and misogyny on the ability to create.

I lived through that.

GeekyBugle

Quote from: pdboddy;1097791In a perfect world, this would be true, the ability to do those things is irrelevant to skin colour and gender and so on.

In a world where one's gender or skin colour can affect the education one receives and the chances to advance to areas of higher learning, thus affecting things like the ability to write a good game, paint or run a company, skin colour and gender can be very relevant.  If only to point out the effects of racism and misogyny on the ability to create.

So women, gays and trans in islamic countries, and generally people living in shithole countries?
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

Theory of Games

Hey!

Let's AS be magical transgender people who do stuff!

I'm so tired of purple-haired gamers calling me "inappropriate".

Fuck Trans gaming -- because it interferes with REAL gaming.

Your politics do not belong in my game.
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Mordred Pendragon

#204
Quote from: Theory of Games;1098154Hey!

Let's AS be magical transgender people who do stuff!

I'm so tired of purple-haired gamers calling me "inappropriate".

Fuck Trans gaming -- because it interferes with REAL gaming.

Your politics do not belong in my game.

Amen!

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Honestly, I feel bad for the people who are actually trans, having to struggle with Gender Dysphoria Disorder while being lumped in with insane far-left transtrenders whether you want to be grouped with them or not.
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Haffrung

Quote from: pdboddy;1097791In a perfect world, this would be true, the ability to do those things is irrelevant to skin colour and gender and so on.

In a world where one's gender or skin colour can affect the education one receives and the chances to advance to areas of higher learning, thus affecting things like the ability to write a good game, paint or run a company, skin colour and gender can be very relevant.  If only to point out the effects of racism and misogyny on the ability to create.

You realize women make up over 60 per cent of people who graduate from college today, don't you? And that the fields related to writing - the Humanites and social sciences - are skewed even more female? 80 per cent of the people who work in publishing are women.
 

GeekyBugle

Quote from: Haffrung;1098164You realize women make up over 60 per cent of people who graduate from college today, don't you? And that the fields related to writing - the Humanites and social sciences - are skewed even more female? 80 per cent of the people who work in publishing are women.

Your facts are sexist you bigot!
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

Omega

#207
Quote from: GeekyBugle;1098166Your facts are sexist you bigot!

They also dominate several art circles. And have a strong presence in Fantasy art and even RPG art. And even some notable Minis sculptors for Grenadier, Ral Partha and Games Workshop.

GeekyBugle

Quote from: Omega;1098221They also dominate several art circles. And have a strong presence in Fantasy art and even RPG art. And even some notable Minis sculptors for Grenadier, Ral Partha and Games Workshop.

This forum is full of Muhsoggykneestic nerds!
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

pdboddy

Quote from: GeekyBugle;1098120So women, gays and trans in islamic countries, and generally people living in shithole countries?

Ah right, obviously that has never happened in non-shithole countries.  Racism and homophobia doesn't happen here, right?