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Sword Dream: Leftist OSR

Started by Lurtch, June 02, 2019, 08:47:08 AM

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Blankman

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1091684I'm an atheist, and I thought The Ten Commandments was the bees' knees.

I've never seen it, but that's not the kind of film I'm talking about. Unless I've totally misjudged the film of course.

Ratman_tf

Quote from: Blankman;1091686I've never seen it, but that's not the kind of film I'm talking about. Unless I've totally misjudged the film of course.

No, I just brought it up as a "good" film about religion.
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As much as I like to rag on Christianity and God being a dick, I have to admit that the religion that has largely replaced Christianity in the Western First World is somehow ten times worse.

God may have been a dick from my perspective, but the deification of Identity Politics is even worse in every way imaginable.

For all its flaws, Christianity has also given the West major beneficial contributions as well.

The religion of Christianity gave us the paintings of Michaelangelo and the writings of J.R.R. Tolkien and C.S. Lewis

The religion of SJW Identity Politics gave us the Marvel Cinematic Universe and Harry Potter books.
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Spinachcat

Quote from: Blankman;1091686I've never seen it, but that's not the kind of film I'm talking about. Unless I've totally misjudged the film of course.

I'm not religious and 10 Commandments is a must-see movie. It's an amazing spectacle, especially for the time. It's got great actors and some of the best movie-making ever, from direction to cinematography to costumes to sets. Impressive flick. If you have access to a movie house which does revivals, its an epic worth seeing on the big screen.


Quote from: Doc Sammy;1091692The religion of SJW Identity Politics gave us the Marvel Cinematic Universe and Harry Potter books.

JK Rowling wasn't "woke" when she wrote Harry Potter. That's just her getting stupid atop a giant pile of money.

The MCU didn't begin eating a bag of dicks, but its clearly jumped aboard the Woke Wagon in the past few flicks.

Aglondir

Quote from: Doc Sammy;1091692For all its flaws, Christianity has also given the West major beneficial contributions as well.

The religion of Christianity gave us the paintings of Michaelangelo and the writings of J.R.R. Tolkien and C.S. Lewis

The religion of SJW Identity Politics gave us the Marvel Cinematic Universe and Harry Potter books.

Doc, I agree with the first two sentences but I'm not sure why you hate HP so much. As you can tell by my quote, I'm a fan of the books. You're absolutely correct about Christian metaphors in Tolkien. Both Frodo and Gandalf are Christ figures, representing sacrifice and resurrection respectively. There's some of that going on in HP as well, when Harry surrenders to Voldemort in the final book. Which also brings to mind Aslan's sacrifice. The HP books are not Christian allergory, not by a long shot, but they do affirm the existence of the soul, that the soul can be corrupted by evil, and there's an afterlife where one is judged and rewarded accordingly.

I can't stand the SJW movement, but I don't see any of that in HP. Hermione is probably the target here, but she's hardly an SJW. Her activism consists of passing out buttons and knitting hats. That's pretty tame compared to anything in the SJW arsenal. No witch hunts, no character assassination, no getting people fired, no boycotts, no depersoning. Hermione's belief to liberate the house elves is a direct nod to the pre Civil War abolitionists, which is pretty basic stuff. A far cry from modern SJW-ism.

Mordred Pendragon

Quote from: Aglondir;1091742Doc, I agree with the first two sentences but I'm not sure why you hate HP so much. As you can tell by my quote, I'm a fan of the books. You're absolutely correct about Christian metaphors in Tolkien. Both Frodo and Gandalf are Christ figures, representing sacrifice and resurrection respectively. There's some of that going on in HP as well, when Harry surrenders to Voldemort in the final book. Which also brings to mind Aslan's sacrifice. The HP books are not Christian allergory, not by a long shot, but they do affirm the existence of the soul, that the soul can be corrupted by evil, and there's an afterlife where one is judged and rewarded accordingly.

I can't stand the SJW movement, but I don't see any of that in HP. Hermione is probably the target here, but she's hardly an SJW. Her activism consists of passing out buttons and knitting hats. That's pretty tame compared to anything in the SJW arsenal. No witch hunts, no character assassination, no getting people fired, no boycotts, no depersoning. Hermione's belief to liberate the house elves is a direct nod to the pre Civil War abolitionists, which is pretty basic stuff. A far cry from modern SJW-ism.

I admit my dig at Harry Potter is less about the books themselves and more about their popularity among Millennial SJW's
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Blankman

Quote from: Doc Sammy;1091751I admit my dig at Harry Potter is less about the books themselves and more about their popularity among Millennial SJW's

The Harry Potter books are some of the most popular books of all time (just check out wikipedia's list of best-selling books), and they came out right in the middle of when "Millennials" (god I hate that nearly meaningless term) were growing up. Of course they are popular among people you don't like, they're popular with damn near every group.

Mordred Pendragon

Quote from: Blankman;1091753The Harry Potter books are some of the most popular books of all time (just check out wikipedia's list of best-selling books), and they came out right in the middle of when "Millennials" (god I hate that nearly meaningless term) were growing up. Of course they are popular among people you don't like, they're popular with damn near every group.

Fair point, I suppose.

Then again, I am a self-hating Millennial (I was born in 1993) and that may have something to do with my disdain for Harry Potter.
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Warboss Squee

Quote from: Blankman;1091753The Harry Potter books are some of the most popular books of all time (just check out wikipedia's list of best-selling books), and they came out right in the middle of when "Millennials" (god I hate that nearly meaningless term) were growing up. Of course they are popular among people you don't like, they're popular with damn near every group.

Don't expect consistency with Sammy. He tends to sperg first and think a distance second.

Mordred Pendragon

Quote from: Warboss Squee;1091779Don't expect consistency with Sammy. He tends to sperg first and think a distance second.

Eh, I will own up to that.
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SavageSchemer

Quote from: Spinachcat;1091701JK Rowling wasn't "woke" when she wrote Harry Potter. That's just her getting stupid atop a giant pile of money.

The MCU didn't begin eating a bag of dicks, but its clearly jumped aboard the Woke Wagon in the past few flicks.

Marvel jumped on the Woke Wagon a long, long time ago with their actual comic books, and the fucktard writers they'd gone out of their way to hire for years. All of a sudden Marvel very publicly hated white dudes - you know, the very people who overwhelmingly keep them in business. They may or may not have taken action to correct that course in recent years. I wouldn't know. I stopped giving them money when they hired Gabby Rivera, easily one of the most hateful, racist and sexist SJW's around (but hey, it's ok because she's gay and only hates on white people, especially white men). I know they've since fired her, but in my mind that damage is done. I just had enough of their shit.

I've never read Harry Potter, so I don't know what's in the books, but J.K. Rowling is one obnoxious Woke bandwagoner.
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Quote from: JRT;1090714The last thing I think even the Pundit wants for this forum is it to just become a place to bitch about the hobby.

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So I think we're fine.
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Quote from: GeekyBugle;1091253Asterisk Dream? Really? Do they think dreaming of the asterisk is better than getting sword reamed?


I'm guessing the * is in response to the accusation that the 'sword' imagery was too phallic and masculine and therefore evil.
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Quote from: Naburimannu;1091050It's annoying that I can't bring up ACKS there when Alex had a good solution to a problem

Is the writer of ACKS persona non grata at TBP?

I don't know the system, so maybe there's something in there they found "triggering"?
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Quote from: RPGPundit;1091830I'm guessing the * is in response to the accusation that the 'sword' imagery was too phallic and masculine and therefore evil.

That or they are now dreaming of getting reamed in the asterisk.
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