To be honest the average gamer will not care. All they are interested is having fun and playing the rpg. It's only the hardcore gamers, grognards and those too emotionally invested in the hobby that care. I would do the same anything and everything to make a buck. Shrts, coffee mugs, cellphone protecters you name it gets sold. Go to a convention and stand up and make a fuss about it and chances are good you will be ignored with the majority imo shrugging their shoulders and keep playing at their respective tables.

Quote from: Ras Algethi;1057579Why is not being a one-trick-pony a bad thing?

It's not a bad thing and most will not care.

Quote from: Charon's Little Helper;1057658Because they were putting out excellent movies with the prequels!? lol

heh. I actually liked the fist two prequels. The third one not so much. Mostly due to she sheer speed with which Annakin apparently gets turned. I know the cartoons stretch that out quite a bit. But just following the movies it feels way too fast.

Quote from: RPGPundit;1057726The problem for me, and for other gamers, isn't about WoTC treating D&D as a lifestyle brand. Its that when they do that, they hand the game part over to SJWs who ruin the product. We saw that with Star Wars, we saw that with Marvel, we've even seen that with video games.

They have not done that yet. And I doubt that D&D branded product or, whatever, would show any SJW handling unless they went really overboard.

D&D Is FEMALE! or some wackyness.

Right now its just marketing trying, again, to convince the execs that branching out into mugs and whatnod is a good idea. And honestly if it limits to that then probably yeah its at least an ok idea to see how it goes over.

Quote from: Charon's Little Helper;1057749Because Disney totally made Last Jedi mediocre on purpose so that they're next Star Wars movie (Solo) wouldn't do well?  Lol. The conspiracy theories around here are getting crazier.

The way Last Jedi was handled it does feel like someone wanted it to fail. Sadly this is not an uncommon thing in media. Someone with strings they can pull has a grudge against the project and does all they can to make sure it fails. Millions can be blown and it is usually going to be the director and not the exec who pulled the strings who gets the axe. Sometimes this can happen as the original project greenlight exec leaves and a new exec steps in.

Never underestimate just how vindictive execs can be. And failing that. Never underestimate incompetence to not do the job of ruining something properly.

This isnt even getting into projects that get taken over by someone with an agenda. Which seems to be happening more and more.

Internal sabotage even happens in gaming. Though far less frequently.

Quote from: thedungeondelver;1057849Your honor, the defense would like to enter these D&D Wood-burning kits and needlepoint patters in as evidence...

Hey! That woodburning kit was pretty neat-o! Unfortunately I sucked at it. My mom was pretty good at it though. Sadly I think all her work was lost long ago.

Quote from: Omega;1057872They have not done that yet. And I doubt that D&D branded product or, whatever, would show any SJW handling unless they went really overboard.

D&D Is FEMALE! or some wackyness.

Right now its just marketing trying, again, to convince the execs that branching out into mugs and whatnod is a good idea. And honestly if it limits to that then probably yeah its at least an ok idea to see how it goes over.

How about magic is female? Welcome to Ed Greenwood's Magical Realm, aka the "Forgotten Realms". It's always been there, it's just getting brought to the fore. Intentionally and with purpose.

Quote from: RandyB;1057897How about magic is female? Welcome to Ed Greenwood's Magical Realm, aka the "Forgotten Realms". It's always been there, it's just getting brought to the fore. Intentionally and with purpose.

Well except for that time magic was a guy for all of like ten seconds.

magic is (mostly) female (except when it isnt - but we don't want to talk about that time in the bar with the pole dancer and aaaaaaagh!)

Quote from: RandyB;1057897How about magic is female? Welcome to Ed Greenwood's Magical Realm, aka the "Forgotten Realms".

If Magic wasn't Female, then Edminster couldn't have Sex with It!

Quote from: S'mon;1057906If Magic wasn't Female, then Edminster couldn't have Sex with It!

Elmara "Been there. Banged that."

Quote from: RandyB;1057897How about magic is female? Welcome to Ed Greenwood's Magical Realm, aka the "Forgotten Realms". It's always been there, it's just getting brought to the fore. Intentionally and with purpose.

Ummm...Isis and Hera say hi!  Not really a big sticking point unless it becomes militant 3rd wave feminism.

I got my BS degree in Folklore. "Magic as the Feminine" probably predates the Stone Age.

Oh, you say I got a BA degree instead. No, I most certainly got a Bullshit Degree!!

BTW, if you don't know Tunnels & Trolls, it has two main classes - Warriors & Wizards. I knew a TM who ran a campaign where Men were Warriors and Women were Wizards, aka only Men got muscled enough and violent enough to be fighters while only Women had the tie to the Goddess to gain mystic powers. I thought it was a fun idea and I've always thought about stealing it for myself.

Quote from: Omega;1057871heh. I actually liked the fist two prequels.

The action sequences and space opera bits in the prequels are FAR beyond anything in the Farce Awakens and the Loser Jedi. Overall, I think they all have craptastic stories, acting and characters, but visually, I prefer the prequels by a large margin.

I'm kinda stunned about the lack of creativity in the new SW flicks compared to the prequels or many other space opera flicks.

Quote from: Spinachcat;1057987BTW, if you don't know Tunnels & Trolls, it has two main classes - Warriors & Wizards. I knew a TM who ran a campaign where Men were Warriors and Women were Wizards, aka only Men got muscled enough and violent enough to be fighters while only Women had the tie to the Goddess to gain mystic powers. I thought it was a fun idea and I've always thought about stealing it for myself.

Or The Wheel of Time prior to Rand al'Thor.

Edit: maybe not the best example since Jordan inserts a lot of his "war of the sexes" stuff into the story (cough) Matt (cough) but still...

Quote from: Spinachcat;1057987I got my BS degree in Folklore. "Magic as the Feminine" probably predates the Stone Age.

Oh, you say I got a BA degree instead. No, I most certainly got a Bullshit Degree!!

Nah. It's a Bull's Ass degree, because its a source of BullShit.

Yeah, "Magic as feminine" is ancient. Exploring that in detail would get very academic, and go beyond folklore. Magic is female, in the sense of personification, is different. It's "feminist", rather than "feminine".

In folklore magic was never 'feminine'.

There was always the masculine magic and the feminine magic. The masculine mysteries and the feminine. Hermes and Hecate. And in terms of myth and folklore, the male wizards and female witches were very different from one another.