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Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: Gabriel2 on June 07, 2018, 03:34:07 PM
My copy of Star Trek Adventures arrives today.

I had resisted the lure of a new Star Trek game.  I originally got into RPGs wanting to play Star Trek, and here I am 37 years later and I have yet to play in a Star Trek game.  I have no hope that STA will change that.  I already had Icon Trek, Coda Trek, Far Trek, and Starships & Spacemen.  I didn't need another one.

But I was reading reviews of the game, trying to learn about it.  I started discovering how movement is handled in the combat system.  My impression was that movement is handled by an "area" system similar to the old TSR Marvel Super Heroes RPG.  This brought back memories of having the MSH city maps taped to my game table and having sprawling miniature superhero battles.

And that made me order the game.  The idea of Starfleet officers and Klingons on a MSH style map engaged in fisticuffs broke down my resistance for some reason.

Anyone else have any stupid/strange reasons why you bought an RPG?
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: jeff37923 on June 07, 2018, 03:37:18 PM
I absolutely hate Space Opera, but I have a bunch of adventures and star sector atlases from Space Opera that I picked up cheap because I love the Jeff Dee artwork in them.
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: S'mon on June 07, 2018, 05:02:45 PM
Quote from: jeff37923;1042781I absolutely hate Space Opera, but I have a bunch of adventures and star sector atlases from Space Opera that I picked up cheap because I love the Jeff Dee artwork in them.

I bought a copy of Space Opera - not that long ago - just for the cover. It wasn't even the sexy cover.
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: Omega on June 07, 2018, 05:57:47 PM
Other Suns: Because a friend of mine way back illustrated it. I came to despise the designer though and have never run it.
Gurps Bunnies & Burrows: Because a friend of mine way back illustrated it. I am not a fan of Gurps and I am REALLY nor a fan of SJG sooo...
Albedo Platinum Edition: Bought it just to see how badly they would fuck it up after ganking the writing deal out from under me. yay...
4e D&D Gamma World: Bought it just to see how badly they would fuck it up after the designers would not shut up about how ha-ha slapstick the setting was. Surprisingly aside from some minour text it is... Not. Also surprisingly it actually does 4e D&D better than 4e. Go figure.
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: finarvyn on June 07, 2018, 07:09:06 PM
My list of stupid is extensive. Basically, I see RPG rulebooks and "impulse buy" them even though I doubt that I'll ever play or run them, and even though my gaming group has little interest in anything but D&D. Certain topics (Barsoom, Lankhmar, Conan, Elric, etc) sucker me in all the time. Certain game systems (FATE, Sorcerer, etc) look really cool but I'll never get my group interested. They may be great games, but I'll never play most of them.
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: AsenRG on June 07, 2018, 07:17:06 PM
I don't do that, as a general rule:).

I admit I have supported two Kickstarters as my own "fuck you guys, that's why" to different groups of people who I knew would get offended (not the same group). That was only stupid in the sense that I had doubts whether I'm going to actually like the games.
But then I also wanted to try the relevant systems that came with them. So I might have backed anyway to get the games cheaper...

For the record, I tried them both (both delivered). They both sucked;)!
I know better than to suggest either of them to my regular group.
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: ffilz on June 07, 2018, 07:55:18 PM
Quote from: finarvyn;1042822My list of stupid is extensive. Basically, I see RPG rulebooks and "impulse buy" them even though I doubt that I'll ever play or run them, and even though my gaming group has little interest in anything but D&D. Certain topics (Barsoom, Lankhmar, Conan, Elric, etc) sucker me in all the time. Certain game systems (FATE, Sorcerer, etc) look really cool but I'll never get my group interested. They may be great games, but I'll never play most of them.

This used to be me. Then I got married and my budget became constrained...

I've been selling off a lot of the stuff so acquired.

Frank
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: Shawn Driscoll on June 07, 2018, 08:19:26 PM
Any RPG I bought because I liked the movie/TV show.
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: Starglyte on June 07, 2018, 09:45:08 PM
I bought Gurps Transhuman Space because Christopher Shy did the artwork. Lucky for me, it turned out I really liked it and bought the rest of the books in the line.
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: GeekEclectic on June 08, 2018, 12:10:49 AM
I bought all of the Neverworld stuff because one of the authors did a good job selling it to me at Dragon Con back in '95 or '96. They were really passionate about it, and there were some neat ideas buried in there, but it was a huge mess. The system was a very complicated heartbreaker, and there were severe setting inconsistencies even with only 1 country and 2 races ever getting detailed to any real degree.

I recently bought a new used copy of GURPS Basic Set 3rd Edition, Revised purely due to nostalgia. The solo adventure near the back of that book was the first real RPG thing I ever got to play, a few years before I ever found an actual group to play stuff with. It's also one of the few RPG books I ever read from cover to cover. So when I saw a faded copy at a Half Price Books, I grabbed it.

I picked up both Mongoose Traveller 2e and Stars Without Number 2e because I really wanted to play something similar to Dark Matter, which I'd been binging at the time. It's still pretty high on my list.

I have a number of French language Agone products that I got because I loved the stuff in the books that got released in English and wanted more. My French is not very good.

Between all of that, there have been too many impulse purchases to count. Lots of them for little to no reason beyond "it looked neat at the time."
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: Nerzenjäger on June 08, 2018, 01:31:08 AM
Yes, many games have been bought from the idiotic "I will use parts of it in my own game!" premise.
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: finarvyn on June 08, 2018, 07:21:07 AM
Quote from: AsenRG;1042824I admit I have supported two Kickstarters...
Oh, kickstarters. They are like an "impulse buy" except that by the time you have to pay for them you aren't interested any more. Worst of both worlds. I kicked for Savage Flash Gordon and was so pumped ... rewatched the old movie and everything ... then months passed and they said "ready to ship, charging your account" and I was thinking that I should have held out for Barsoom or something else. It will probably be great, but I may never play it because my group isn't into Savage Worlds or scifi that much.
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: Krimson on June 08, 2018, 01:53:41 PM
I never used GURPs Space 3e for GURPS, but I used it a lot for other games.

I bought the original Blue Rose because I could play a cat who was sneaky and who liked to eat things while they still moved. I bought the most recent one so I could have a print copy of something AGE system, though I don't like AGE.

I don't like Tolkien but I bought the AIME Player's and Loremaster's Guides because it's a really nice iteration of 5e and next time I run a game in Faerun, I will probably use the classes and some other rules.
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: Gabriel2 on June 08, 2018, 03:28:20 PM
Quote from: Krimson;1042971I bought the original Blue Rose because I could play a cat who was sneaky and who liked to eat things while they still moved. I bought the most recent one so I could have a print copy of something AGE system, though I don't like AGE.

Yeah.  I've done similar.  D&D 3.0 and 3.5.
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: Steven Mitchell on June 08, 2018, 09:11:51 PM
I once went to a game store that was going out of business.  I bought about $120 of stuff that was marked down an average of about 90% off.  It's actual value to me turned out to be less than $10--and that might be generous.  Then to cap it off, I took it all with me several times when I moved.  

The only real benefit I got out if it was that it was the germ of the movement towards not buying stuff unless I planned to use it soon.  That was probably worth $110+ in the long run. :D
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: Christopher Brady on June 08, 2018, 10:38:29 PM
I bought the second edition of Teenagers from Outer Space because of the Cat Girl on the cover.  Exactly as the book claimed I would.
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: Aglondir on June 09, 2018, 01:35:07 AM
Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;1042832Any RPG I bought because I liked the movie/TV show.

There's a Traveller TV show? :D

Speaking of Traveller, I buy tons of Trav stuff from multiple editions (CT, Mega, Gurps, Mong1, Mong2) which is pretty stupid since I don't really play the game.
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: AsenRG on June 09, 2018, 12:06:34 PM
Quote from: finarvyn;1042910Oh, kickstarters. They are like an "impulse buy" except that by the time you have to pay for them you aren't interested any more. Worst of both worlds.
Not in my experience. To put it in context, there have been literally dozens of KS that I supported and had fun with:).

I agree your experience with them doesn't sound positive, but that is too small a sample;).
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: Ewan on June 09, 2018, 12:47:21 PM
Quote from: Gabriel2;1042994Yeah.  I've done similar.  D&D 3.0 and 3.5.

I bought 3.5 because I was overseas and did not have my 3e books. Dumb.

I didn't get to play more than a few sessions. Too busy.

My GURPS 4E collection hardly saw any use. But at least most of it came as a gift--a friend gave me a check at my wedding reception so I could buy the books. He loves the system. But then he ended up never being able to game with us, and the books languished on the shelf alongside a stupidly big collection of GURPS 3E books.

After years of it collecting dust, I  sold it all (3E and 4E) except the two core books and GURPS Lite. Those are good in case I ever get to game with my GURPS-loving friend again.

I have blown some money on PDFs I didn't really need or get to use, but those were cheap and don't take up shelf space, so no biggie.
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: GeekEclectic on June 09, 2018, 10:21:54 PM
Quote from: AsenRG;1043070Not in my experience. To put it in context, there have been literally dozens of KS that I supported and had fun with:).
I've had both experiences. On the good side, you have Fate Core, Torg Eternity, Alternity, Rememorex, Unknown Armies 3e, Tall Pines(not technically an RPG, I know...), Cortex Prime, Urban Shadows, Worlds in Peril, Magicians(more of a learning tool with an RPG skin, but still neat), OVA 2e, Blade Raiders, Mummy: the Resurrection, and a few others. All delivered in a timely manner(or currently in the works with steady progress being demonstrated through pre-release documents).

On the not so good side, . . . well, Cartoon Action Hour 3e has hit multiple snags. PDFs have been released in a pretty timely manner, but the physical books are being sent out at a snail's pace with no explanation as to why(from the author herself; I've heard possible explanations from other people, but grain of salt and all that). And I'm one of those unfortunate bastards who backed Far West, and we all know how that went.
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: AaronBrown99 on June 09, 2018, 10:39:27 PM
Pretty much every RPG purchase I make is predicated upon the (erroneous) assumption I'll find a group for THIS one!

*sigh*
 
I love reading the books?
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: JeremyR on June 09, 2018, 10:41:37 PM
Synnibarr (however you spell it). I first bought it simply because it was such a large book
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: remial on June 10, 2018, 04:54:43 AM
oh man, where to begin?

I used to frequent big purple before the SJW echo chamber was turned up to 11, and I'd read various threads about RPGs and think, "well that sounds interesting" so I'd track down a copy of the book.
I also collect _BAD_ RPGs the worse the game the more I want it.  I bought Synnibarr AND the Ultimate Adventurer's guide after reading the review of the main rule book.  I bought a copy of it for a friend as a christmas gift.  I've bought RPGs because I knew the idea of anyone giving money to the author would piss the people on TBP off. (looking at you Grimm)
I bought Immortal The Invisible War because it looked like something I might be able to use in a WoD game (nope), at one point I had the system figured out enough that I could actually run it (and explain it to others) now the "we used EVERY photoshop filter at once for EVERY piece of art" make me sick to my stomach.

I own a copy of the Wraeththu RPG, I didn't buy it, it showed up on my doorstep one day, but I did buy the initial trilogy because my girlfriend at the time said it was the best Sci-fi trilogy she had ever read and she could identify with the characters.  (the level of squick the book inspired in me should have been a warning to me).

I own entire product lines because I bought the core book cheap, and decided, "well the rest of the game line isn't THAT expensive..."

I have a few games I bought because different women at the game stores suggested them to me.  (now I have a self imposed rule not to buy ANY book suggested to me by any woman I want to sleep with. Not just game books but novels as well (looking at you 'The Kin of Ata are Waiting for You')
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: Trond on June 10, 2018, 09:30:06 AM
Quote from: remial;1043139I have a few games I bought because different women at the game stores suggested them to me.  (now I have a self imposed rule not to buy ANY book suggested to me by any woman I want to sleep with. Not just game books but novels as well (looking at you 'The Kin of Ata are Waiting for You')

I had to think about this one, since I know I am often easily swayed by women :) But I don't think I ever did buy an RPG because of women. A hot girl once suggested Exalted, so I checked it out, but I thought nah, not for me. I didn't even like the art. Nor did I ever buy an RPG book because of hot women on the cover (again, something I have done with other books), but I have a strong suspicion that some old-timer friends of mine bought into RIFTS because of this one. :D
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6I_0QXTbkPM/TzLgjyDqgQI/AAAAAAAAETs/hAcvPegEyTM/s1600/rifts.jpg)

I flipped through it, and found that I didn't like the system, not even a little bit.
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: Ewan on June 10, 2018, 08:52:40 PM
You might as well face it
you're addicted to jugs
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: Trond on June 10, 2018, 11:29:23 PM
Quote from: Ewan;1043255You might as well face it
you're addicted to jugs

Oh, well. There are worse things one could be addicted to. :D
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: Herne's Son on June 11, 2018, 12:26:28 AM
"I'm sure that someday I'll get to play this game."
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: Herne's Son on June 11, 2018, 12:28:26 AM
Quote from: AaronBrown99;1043121Pretty much every RPG purchase I make is predicated upon the (erroneous) assumption I'll find a group for THIS one!

*sigh*
 
I love reading the books?

Right! And then there's the even worse bit, where I get into a game, decide to run it, find some people interested in playing it, and then after I run a few sessions, I'm reminded how much I hate trying to teach new games, and would rather just run some old school edition of D&D that everyone knows how to play.
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: rgalex on June 11, 2018, 10:38:58 AM
I bought a copy of Children of the Sun and the supplement.  I recall being first attracted to it by the art and the setting.  Flipping through the book I noticed that the address for the company or the publisher or someone in the credits was like a 5 min walk down the street from where my parents live.  That was the part that sealed the deal for me.
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: Gabriel2 on June 11, 2018, 10:59:14 AM
Quote from: Steven Mitchell;1043017I bought about $120 of stuff that was marked down an average of about 90% off.  It's actual value to me turned out to be less than $10--and that might be generous.  

I've done the same.  I've bought things because they were on sale, then realized I shouldn't have bothered.

I hadn't done it in a long while.  But recently I picked up Tomorrow Knights on clearance.  I flipped through it and realized that I wasn't interested in it at all.

Quote from: Christopher Brady;1043019I bought the second edition of Teenagers from Outer Space because of the Cat Girl on the cover.  Exactly as the book claimed I would.

I always liked that joke.  In my edition of the game it's about the blonde in the leotard.

Quote from: AaronBrown99;1043121I love reading the books?

Me too.  I used to particularly enjoy reading GM tip sections.  I also liked rules.  I loved seeing how different games handled concepts.

As I mentioned in another thread, my enjoyment has been dimmed by my deteriorating vision, maybe after my next optometrist vision things will improve.

Quote from: remial;1043139I used to frequent big purple before the SJW echo chamber was turned up to 11, and I'd read various threads about RPGs and think, "well that sounds interesting" so I'd track down a copy of the book.

(snip)

I own entire product lines because I bought the core book cheap, and decided, "well the rest of the game line isn't THAT expensive..."

Yep.  Been there.  I bought a decent number of games because people talked about them in online forums and I decided to pick them up.  And I've bought entire game lines.  

I guess a good example would be Buffy.  I only ever watched the movie, not the TV show.  I wasn't a fan.  Yet, I CONSTANTLY saw this game being talked about on RPGnet.

One day when I saw the books on clearance sale at Hastings, I picked them up.  I got everything: core, revised core, limited Slayer's Handbook, limited Monster Smackdown, GM's screen, Angel core, Angel GM's screen.  The only thing I didn't get was Magic Box, and I tracked that down later to have a complete set.

Never played it.

Quote from: Herne's Son;1043272Right! And then there's the even worse bit, where I get into a game, decide to run it, find some people interested in playing it, and then after I run a few sessions, I'm reminded how much I hate trying to teach new games, and would rather just run some old school edition of D&D that everyone knows how to play.

Oh, I DEFINITELY sympathize.  Back with my old crew from the 80s and 90s, I was the rules guy.
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: jcfiala on June 11, 2018, 11:11:16 AM
I think the biggest stupid RPG purchase I ever made was the big box set of DragonStar (D&D 3rd in space) books at Black & Read.  Now, admittedly, I got a good discount on them, but I don't think I ever read any of the books.  They just sit and take up space.

Sigh.
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: tenbones on June 11, 2018, 11:12:57 AM
I bought the original Arcanum RPG because it had a bitchin red pentagram on it!!!
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: Gabriel2 on June 13, 2018, 10:28:32 AM
Quote from: tenbones;1043349I bought the original Arcanum RPG because it had a bitchin red pentagram on it!!!

In the 80s, I knew of at least two dozen groups which would have bought anything for that reason.
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: tenbones on June 13, 2018, 10:48:30 AM
Quote from: Gabriel2;1043724In the 80s, I knew of at least two dozen groups which would have bought anything for that reason.

And every one of those groups had too many members that were into Manowar/Rush/Yngwie Malmsteen wore way too much denim, smelled of BO, bongwater and bad incense. Had bad hairdos. But they would game their asses off. AMIRITE?

If they were on the west-coast they were sunburned wore Van with no socks and had smelly feet, or Chuck Taylor shoes held together by duct-tape.
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: jcfiala on June 13, 2018, 10:51:24 AM
Quote from: tenbones;1043349I bought the original Arcanum RPG because it had a bitchin red pentagram on it!!!

Happily, the Arcanum RPG was worth buying.  I remember many fond hours reading through that while on vacation.
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: Gabriel2 on June 13, 2018, 10:53:12 AM
Quote from: tenbones;1043726And every one of those groups had too many members that were into Manowar/Rush/Yngwie Malmsteen wore way too much denim, smelled of BO, bongwater and bad incense. Had bad hairdos. But they would game their asses off. AMIRITE?

Close enough that I'm not going to quibble over the details.  ;)
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: Brad on June 13, 2018, 11:02:50 AM
I backed the Princess Bride KS just to prove how dumb the game would be to a buddy. That's gotta rank high on the stupid scale.

When I went to college, I decided AD&D was terrible and decided to spite TSR by only buying GURPS books, and even made a pact with myself to ONLY play GURPS from then on. I like GURPS, but the amount of books I bought for a period of about two years was exponentially higher than any sort of actual preference I have for the system. Eventually I grew out of that phase and went back to getting AD&D stuff.
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: Steven Mitchell on June 13, 2018, 11:05:50 AM
Quote from: Brad;1043731When I went to college, I decided AD&D was terrible and decided to spite TSR by only buying GURPS books, and even made a pact with myself to ONLY play GURPS from then on. I like GURPS, but the amount of books I bought for a period of about two years was exponentially higher than any sort of actual preference I have for the system. Eventually I grew out of that phase and went back to getting AD&D stuff.

That is an impressively dedicated run of spite.
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: jcfiala on June 13, 2018, 11:09:52 AM
Quote from: Brad;1043731I backed the Princess Bride KS just to prove how dumb the game would be to a buddy. That's gotta rank high on the stupid scale.

Wow, you're dropping $50 on a game that you don't think you will like out of spite?  That's pretty high up there.

That said, I wouldn't count Stephen O'Sullivan out so quickly.  But we'll see when the book arrives.
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: Brad on June 13, 2018, 11:17:28 AM
Quote from: Steven Mitchell;1043733That is an impressively dedicated run of spite.

I went through another phase when cleaning out the closets when I got out of grad school, decided I didn't want to haul around a bunch of stuff I never played anymore, so I dumped all my AD&D 2nd edition books. I had almost everything, including some boxed sets that are now worth $100+. Dropped it all off at Half Priced Books, got maybe $20, no fucks given. Of course, I ended up buying most of it again a few years later...

Quote from: jcfiala;1043734Wow, you're dropping $50 on a game that you don't think you will like out of spite?  That's pretty high up there.

That said, I wouldn't count Stephen O'Sullivan out so quickly.  But we'll see when the book arrives.

I did say it ranked high on the stupid scale.
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: RPGPundit on June 16, 2018, 05:12:35 AM
I bought both Cyborg Commando and Dangerous Journeys just because it had the words "Gary Gygax" on them.
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: Gabriel2 on June 16, 2018, 01:36:03 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit;1044264I bought both Cyborg Commando and Dangerous Journeys just because it had the words "Gary Gygax" on them.

I really wanted Cyborg Commando bitd.  The only reason was that I was in love with the idea of battle cyborgs back then.  I don't know if I ever knew anything about the game beyond the title.  Luckily, I never found a copy.

I remember when Dangerous Journeys hit stores.  I picked up a copy, flipped through it, and then set it back down not finding anything interesting about it at all.  My distant recollection was a book full of dense charts and the one block of text I read being the worst sort of high Gygaxian prose.  I think it's the only major published RPG that I've never heard of anyone ever playing.  So, I think the only value it has is because, like you observe, it has Gary Gygax on the cover.
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: jcfiala on June 16, 2018, 01:52:41 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit;1044264I bought both Cyborg Commando and Dangerous Journeys just because it had the words "Gary Gygax" on them.

I didn't pick up DJ, but I've got to agree with you, I picked up Cyborg Commando because his name was there.  I'm not sure that's really stupid - after all, I often buy new books because of the author's name!  But it turned out to be a strange and stupid game.
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: RPGPundit on June 19, 2018, 04:45:47 AM
Ironically, Gary Gygax was a one-hit-wonder. Of course, it was the biggest hit ever.
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: Nerzenjäger on June 19, 2018, 06:17:35 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit;1044643Ironically, Gary Gygax was a one-hit-wonder. Of course, it was the biggest hit ever.

Gary was a cool dude, but I am of the opinion, that a lot of what we now associate with D&D already was established bei Dave. I may be wrong on that and we might never now exactly how it all went down, but i think Arneson was an ideas guy.
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: bat on June 19, 2018, 11:04:00 AM
I find it cathartic to purchase, second hand, work by those I'm particularly not fond of then burn their work.
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: RPGPundit on June 29, 2018, 02:09:57 AM
Quote from: Nerzenjäger;1044661Gary was a cool dude, but I am of the opinion, that a lot of what we now associate with D&D already was established bei Dave. I may be wrong on that and we might never now exactly how it all went down, but i think Arneson was an ideas guy.

Bah. Kirby & Lee. I think there's enough praise to go around.
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: S'mon on June 29, 2018, 03:55:28 AM
Quote from: Nerzenjäger;1044661Gary was a cool dude, but I am of the opinion, that a lot of what we now associate with D&D already was established bei Dave. I may be wrong on that and we might never now exactly how it all went down, but i think Arneson was an ideas guy.

It needed them both to create D&D. We can see from EGG's post TSR work (and even the late, Unearthed Arcana era 1e stuff) that either he wasn't that great solo, or he had lost the spark.
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: nope on June 29, 2018, 11:59:49 AM
I dunno if this counts, but I keep "buying" (PWYW for virtual, so $0) new Fate products hoping something will change my mind about it as a game; even after playing it somewhat extensively (then deciding it definitely wasn't for me), and despite the fact that each new Toolkit/World/permutation just puts me off of it even more. The PDFs keep piling up for a system framework I dislike in increasingly pronounced ways. I'm not even sure why I keep 'checking in' as there's nothing it would enable me to do that I can't already with my current generic go-to, in a way I find tremendously more satisfying. Glutton for punishment, I suppose, but it never hurts to read new things (most new things, anyway...).

The worst physical purchase I've ever made was the Wheel of Time D20 roleplaying game. It did have some nice art, though, and I got it for next to nothing at some nowhere-bookstore in Colville, WA so I can't complain about having wasted any money.
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: Krimson on June 29, 2018, 12:12:02 PM
I backed the Fate Core Kickstarter based solely on the fact that at the time, the price was low enough to not pass up. I doubt I will every play Fate, but pieces of Core and Accelerated have found their way into my Cortex Plus games.
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: nope on June 29, 2018, 12:19:41 PM
Quote from: Krimson;1046415I backed the Fate Core Kickstarter based solely on the fact that at the time, the price was low enough to not pass up. I doubt I will every play Fate, but pieces of Core and Accelerated have found their way into my Cortex Plus games.

Indeed, there's a big chunk of Fate Core/Accelerated that's easily transported elsewhere, primarily with regards to interpreting rolls, deciding on the scope and resolution of a given conflict depending on importance, setting stakes and pushing hard on meaningful failure & etc. (though many would argue this is just part of being a good GM in general); I'd say that's probably its biggest strength in my view, it's easy to pick out some things you like and plug it into a game you already enjoy. The mechanics themselves are (almost aggressively) unremarkable, but I could see some of the more useful bits being pretty easily bolted on to something like Cortex or FUDGE or what have you.
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: Krimson on June 29, 2018, 01:20:32 PM
Quote from: Antiquation!;1046417Indeed, there's a big chunk of Fate Core/Accelerated that's easily transported elsewhere, primarily with regards to interpreting rolls, deciding on the scope and resolution of a given conflict depending on importance, setting stakes and pushing hard on meaningful failure & etc. (though many would argue this is just part of being a good GM in general); I'd say that's probably its biggest strength in my view, it's easy to pick out some things you like and plug it into a game you already enjoy. The mechanics themselves are (almost aggressively) unremarkable, but I could see some of the more useful bits being pretty easily bolted on to something like Cortex or FUDGE or what have you.

I like to use some bits with Cortex, because Cortex can be made more crunchy and still play fast. Accelerated Approaches are really just the classic six ability score in dynamic form with a bit of leeway of how you apply it. I don't use the ones as presented though and modified them to Charming, Clever, Forceful, Quick, Tough, and Willful. I also adapted the Milestones from Core to supplement/replace the ones in Marvel Heroic. The nice thing about the storygame bits is that you can set them up beforehand. If I add an Unlockable that lets you call for backup, then I already have that contingency prepared for. I also make judicious use of the Bronze rule, and I like to have things like Scene assets and potential complications that can be used by either side of a conflict. In Cortex, I still have control over the metaplot and I tell my players beforehand that their actions are subject to MY interpretation, though honestly if they come up with something interesting, I usually run with it.
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: nope on June 29, 2018, 05:49:38 PM
Quote from: Krimson;1046428I like to use some bits with Cortex, because Cortex can be made more crunchy and still play fast. Accelerated Approaches are really just the classic six ability score in dynamic form with a bit of leeway of how you apply it. I don't use the ones as presented though and modified them to Charming, Clever, Forceful, Quick, Tough, and Willful. I also adapted the Milestones from Core to supplement/replace the ones in Marvel Heroic. The nice thing about the storygame bits is that you can set them up beforehand. If I add an Unlockable that lets you call for backup, then I already have that contingency prepared for. I also make judicious use of the Bronze rule, and I like to have things like Scene assets and potential complications that can be used by either side of a conflict. In Cortex, I still have control over the metaplot and I tell my players beforehand that their actions are subject to MY interpretation, though honestly if they come up with something interesting, I usually run with it.

Interesting. I've been waiting for the new Cortex (Prime?) release to take a second look; I haven't stared too closely at it so far, having heard good things are in the works in terms of drawing some disparate fan-favored elements and cusomizations of the system from different games together. I'll be curious to give it a whirl at some point, based on most descriptions I've read as far as the differences between the two games (Cortex and Fate, that is) it seems to scratch some peoples itch for crunch a bit better than Fate for those involved with both.

P.S. My first reading of your post contained "meatplot" not "metaplot" and I was very, very interested in that for the moment it took me to realize my error.
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: Krimson on June 29, 2018, 06:19:37 PM
Quote from: Antiquation!;1046485Interesting. I've been waiting for the new Cortex (Prime?) release to take a second look; I haven't stared too closely at it so far, having heard good things are in the works in terms of drawing some disparate fan-favored elements and cusomizations of the system from different games together. I'll be curious to give it a whirl at some point, based on most descriptions I've read as far as the differences between the two games (Cortex and Fate, that is) it seems to scratch some peoples itch for crunch a bit better than Fate for those involved with both.[/quote[]

My hack of Marvel Heroic is bar none the easiest game I have run in Play by Post, especially substituting Time Dice for initiative from the Hacker's Guide, because I can resolve actions which are posted asynchronously. The biggest hurdle is teaching the players to build a dice pool, but after that it smooths out. It certain feels crunchy enough.

Relevant to OP: I backed Cortex Prime because I want an SRD to go with the game I have been sitting on for five years. Prime is touted to be backward compatible with all previous versions of Cortex and Cortex Plus.

Quote from: Antiquation!;1046485P.S. My first reading of your post contained "meatplot" not "metaplot" and I was very, very interested in that for the moment it took me to realize my error.

I might save the term "meatplot" should I ever decided to do anything with my Dedders setting, a kind of fantasy setting where everyone and everyone is dead. Dedders are kind of like zombies. Most of them are dumb but some are smart. They eat other fleshy things in order to heal, else they end up as a Skeller. There are various levels of being dead, including the oblivion of nonexistence if you get dead enough.
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: nope on June 29, 2018, 06:37:34 PM
Quote from: Krimson;1046499[...]Relevant to OP: I backed Cortex Prime because I want an SRD to go with the game I have been sitting on for five years. Prime is touted to be backward compatible with all previous versions of Cortex and Cortex Plus.

I might save the term "meatplot" should I ever decided to do anything with my Dedders setting, a kind of fantasy setting where everyone and everyone is dead. Dedders are kind of like zombies. Most of them are dumb but some are smart. They eat other fleshy things in order to heal, else they end up as a Skeller. There are various levels of being dead, including the oblivion of nonexistence if you get dead enough.

Thanks for the system commentary, my interest is piqued and I'm looking forward to taking a dip into Cortex Prime and seeing how it suits my table(s).

And please do save "meatplot" if you have use for it, that sounds like a super bizarre setting that kind of reminds me of some mixture of early PS1 games for some reason. I dig it.

Time for me to be responsible and stop posting, I'd hate to continue my digression in OP's thread further than I've pushed it already. Cheers!
Title: Strange and/or Stupid reasons you've bought an RPG
Post by: RPGPundit on July 04, 2018, 02:33:20 AM
I've certainly bought a few dumb RPG products just because they were cheap, usually second hand.