Storygamers Trying to Make a Comeback Invasion

RPGPundit · March 30, 2024, 03:29:37 PM

Storygamers are trying to make a comeback with their ruinous mechanics in games like #Daggerheart and #MCDM
#dnd #ttrpg #osr

Jason Coplen · March 30, 2024, 07:21:41 PM

Good video.

Omega · March 31, 2024, 03:32:16 AM

"Still 5e!" will likely be pushing this agenda too if what Perkins has said in interviews makes it to print.

Trond · March 31, 2024, 10:32:27 AM

I don't mind story gaming* or degrees of success** per se, but oh boy the wokeness is thick in some of these new ones.

* my group had some great fun with Houses of the Blooded
** works well enough with Rolemaster for instance

RNGm · March 31, 2024, 11:43:58 AM

Quote from: Trond on March 31, 2024, 10:32:27 AM
I don't mind story gaming* or degrees of success** per se, but oh boy the wokeness is thick in some of these new ones.

Agreed. The two are separate concepts but unfortunately appear together all too frequently. As long as the rules are determined ahead of time so that everyone is aware of their use (and the difficulties are appropriately adjusted), I don't see an issue with degrees of success. The issue for me is when they're suddenly introduced after a roll when an inexperienced or just plain dumb GM realizes that he can't afford to have the players fail the roll that he just mandated they make. That's not a story gaming/degrees of success/wokeness problem but rather a GM problem. That said... I'm also fine with traditional pass/fail systems as well so they're not a must.

GhostNinja · March 31, 2024, 01:39:32 PM

Storygamers never went anywhere. They still made their games and did their things.

Them being around or not doesn't matter. There are plenty of non-story games to play where they can live in their little corner and play their "games" and we can play traditional games.

Man at Arms · March 31, 2024, 03:57:49 PM

Story game is, as story game does.

Abraxus · March 31, 2024, 08:35:35 PM

Is this not the third video on the same topic at this point.

We get it Pundit your bored and starting to do threads for shit and giggles. Sometimes less is more. Or at the very least book an appointment with a qualified mental healthcare specialist for your Dagger heart/Matt Mercie/story game OCD/Obsession.

RPGPundit · April 01, 2024, 01:29:54 AM

Quote from: Jason Coplen on March 30, 2024, 07:21:41 PM
Good video.

Thank you!

RPGPundit · April 01, 2024, 01:31:56 AM

Quote from: Abraxus on March 31, 2024, 08:35:35 PM
Is this not the third video on the same topic at this point.

We get it Pundit your bored and starting to do threads for shit and giggles. Sometimes less is more. Or at the very least book an appointment with a qualified mental healthcare specialist for your Dagger heart/Matt Mercie/story game OCD/Obsession.

Someone sure is sounding defensive...

Omega · April 01, 2024, 01:51:03 AM

Quote from: GhostNinja on March 31, 2024, 01:39:32 PM
Storygamers never went anywhere. They still made their games and did their things.

Them being around or not doesn't matter. There are plenty of non-story games to play where they can live in their little corner and play their "games" and we can play traditional games.

That would be nice if the storygamer fanatics would leave everyone else alone. But we are right back to the same infiltration and co-opt tactics from ten years ago. The return of their hateful little terms and the rest.

Therein lies the problem. There wouldnt be such resistance if they'd just leave everyone else the hell alone.

yosemitemike · April 01, 2024, 07:15:02 AM

Quote from: Omega on April 01, 2024, 01:51:03 AM
There wouldnt be such resistance if they'd just leave everyone else the hell alone.

That's the one thing they can never do. Their entire identity and all of their moral authority derive from being offended about things and engaging in moral grandstanding. Without that, they are left on places like itch.io putting up games that no one cares about, buys or plays.

GhostNinja · April 01, 2024, 09:34:19 AM

Quote from: Omega on April 01, 2024, 01:51:03 AM
That would be nice if the storygamer fanatics would leave everyone else alone. But we are right back to the same infiltration and co-opt tactics from ten years ago. The return of their hateful little terms and the rest.

Therein lies the problem. There wouldnt be such resistance if they'd just leave everyone else the hell alone.

I am not sure what you are seeing, because none of their tactics and styles can be found in the games I play and I know there are many designers who ignore them. It's easy to play the games we enjoy and just ignore them.

blackstone · April 01, 2024, 10:18:52 AM

Quote from: Abraxus on March 31, 2024, 08:35:35 PM
Is this not the third video on the same topic at this point.

We get it Pundit your bored and starting to do threads for shit and giggles. Sometimes less is more. Or at the very least book an appointment with a qualified mental healthcare specialist for your Dagger heart/Matt Mercie/story game OCD/Obsession.

No, you're bored. YOU don't speak for everyone here.
It's his board. He can do what he wants. Don't like it? Piss off.

Abraxus · April 01, 2024, 10:35:27 AM

I wrote a long reply to blackstone and deleted it. Going forward anyone who tells me to leave for writing an honest opinion is simply going to be blocked. I don't mind a dissenting opinion yet telling me to leave is not something I want or am paid to listen to or acknowledge. Nor am I ain't getting paid to put you with your leftist regressive and repressive BS.