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State of the Cyberpunk

Started by Aglondir, June 09, 2019, 01:49:07 AM

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Alderaan Crumbs

#15
June 09, 2019, 01:39:56 PM
Quote from: Aglondir;1091328I was browsing the FF website last night and saw both, as well as the card game and board game. Definitely going to pick up Shadow and World for setting ideas alone. Is Genesys any good? Is that the 2d20 engine? Found it meh when I tried Star Trek.

I'm leaning more towards drama/intrigue/humanity themes, but I don't really need a system for that. What I need is a really good cybernetics system, as well as a full-fleshed background. That's the stuff that takes time and energy to create.

No, it's FFG's Narrative Dice System not 2d20. I really enjoy it and have since it was introduced in FFG's Star Wars line. It's not for everyone, especially since it uses proprietary dice. I feel they're well worth it and do things no other system does. It's got a wonderful space of crunch and narrative fluff that flows at the table. However, if interpreting results past the math of hit or miss isn't your thing, you might not enjoy it.

Setting-wise, Android is meaty and runs the gamut from gritty, gang-riddled streets to Martian clone rebels with lasers. I really like the feel of it and how deep you can get with the philosophical aspects, or not. Either focus (or a mix) is good.
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#16
June 09, 2019, 01:49:26 PM
There's also Cyberspace, basically the cyberpunk-variant of MERP. It has some great material like the Chicago Arcology sourcebook and is, due to its age, part of the genre's root era. Back then it used to be Cyberpunk, Cyberspace and Shadowrun - plus GURPS Cyberpunk.
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#17
June 09, 2019, 01:49:34 PM
Quote from: Alderaan Crumbs;1091336No, it's FFG's Narrative Dice System not 2d20. I really enjoy it and have since it was introduced in FFG's Star Wars line. It's not for everyone, especially since it uses proprietary dice. I feel they're well worth it and do things no other system does. It's got a wonderful space of crunch and narrative fluff that flows at the table. However, if interpreting results past the math of hit or miss isn't your thing, you might not enjoy it.

Setting-wise, Android is meaty and runs the gamut from gritty, gang-riddled streets to Martian clone rebels with lasers. I really like the feel of it and how deep you can get with the philosophical aspects, or not. Either focus (or a mix) is good.

Gotcha. I haven't tried that yet, and I must admit the weird dice give me pause. I'm more into 2d6 or 3d6 these days. Still it might be worth a look. The setting, however, sounds great.

Aglondir

#18
June 09, 2019, 01:50:39 PM
Quote from: kythri;1091332Pretty sure there's a 2.0 for Pathfinder and Starfinder, and "1.0" for D20/True 20..

I like True 20, so that might work for me.

Batjon

#19
June 09, 2019, 02:18:38 PM
No love for Shadowrun?

pdboddy

#20
June 09, 2019, 02:46:48 PM
Quote from: daddystabz;1091344No love for Shadowrun?

Probably aren't interested in cyberpunk + magic.  Or at least, they perhaps know how SR is doing, how it's played, etc... but want a more 'pure' cyberpunk experience?

Anyways, to the OP, Cyberpunk 2020 is getting an upgrade this year, RTG is putting out a new version to go along with CD Projekt Red's Cyberpunk 2077 video game.  Cyperpunk 2020 is a very fun game.
 

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#21
June 09, 2019, 04:10:44 PM
Quote from: Aglondir;1091338Gotcha. I haven't tried that yet, and I must admit the weird dice give me pause. I'm more into 2d6 or 3d6 these days. Still it might be worth a look. The setting, however, sounds great.

They gave me big pause until my desire for Star Wars won out. Now I love the system. If you're set on the d6 I recommend The Sprawl or even better, the upcoming Null Vector official hack for Blades in the Dark. Sadly, there's no timeline for Null Vector, but the Forged in the Dark system is FANTASTIC for cyberpunk!
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#22
June 09, 2019, 04:41:26 PM
Quote from: Aglondir;1091329Now that is intriguing. Looks like Rtal is ditching Fuzion and going back to Interlock. And no artwork with dolls this time.

Maybe because of Interlock Unlimited? https://datafortress2020.com/InterlockUnlimited.html
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#23
June 09, 2019, 04:45:35 PM
Watch this video, and then find a tabletop RPG that best does it using a system you like.

[video=youtube;qIcTM8WXFjk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIcTM8WXFjk[/youtube]

Aglondir

#24
June 09, 2019, 06:57:46 PM Last Edit: June 09, 2019, 07:03:04 PM by Aglondir
Quote from: daddystabz;1091344No love for Shadowrun?

NONE! Keep your elves out my cyberpunk!

(edit: On a more serious note, I played a lot of SR back in the 90's. I did not like the demi-humans, the magic, and the Native American stuff. Nor did I like the in-game fiction, which seemed downright stupid. Maybe the game has changed since then?)

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#25
June 09, 2019, 07:18:33 PM
Quote from: Aglondir;1091380NONE! Keep your elves out my cyberpunk!

(edit: On a more serious note, I played a lot of SR back in the 90's. I did not like the demi-humans, the magic, and the Native American stuff. Nor did I like the in-game fiction, which seemed downright stupid. Maybe the game has changed since then?)

No, it hasn't. I love Shadowrun for itself, not to scratch my cyberpunk itch.
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#26
June 09, 2019, 09:17:58 PM
Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;1091363Watch this video, and then find a tabletop RPG that best does it using a system you like.

[video=youtube;qIcTM8WXFjk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIcTM8WXFjk[/youtube]

Considering the game is based on the Cyberpunk 2020 RPG... :)
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#27
June 09, 2019, 10:21:17 PM
Setting-wise, Android is the most interesting thing I've seen in the genre recently. Take a look at Shadow of the Beanstalk for Genesys, Worlds of Android and the Netrunner cardgame to have a feel for it.

Rules-wise, The Veil seems to approach the kind of personal narrative seen in Blade Runner the most.

Everything else is missions-based. And you have a bazillion things for this.

Longshadow

#28
June 09, 2019, 10:55:12 PM
CP2020 requires a lot of work to get it to run right. The only skills that are defined are the ones directly related to combat; for everything else you are on your own in figuring out mechanics.

The combat system is completely broken, with armor being so cheap and effective that most of the game's weapons are pointless. If you want to run Shadowrun style missions, feel free to laugh at the ridiculously under-armed and armored corporate security.

I played CP2020 a ton in the 90's, but I am not nostalgic for the system.

Malleustein

#29
June 10, 2019, 01:45:53 AM
Quote from: NYTFLYR;1091285CP2020 is the gold standard, there is so much out there that has been done to modify it, update it, etc. and its a darn good system

All of this is true.

There are a few elements I would see cleaned up, but it holds up well.  Friday Night Firefight is, for me, THE best combat system written for modern weapons.

My group insists we play it next year.  It has the working title of "I was promised cyberarms."
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