Quote from: Grognard GM on April 14, 2023, 03:39:55 PM
... I wish I had shows I could watch.

A lot of the current shows are trash, but on the flip side, there are more good old shows available online now than I'll be able to watch in my lifetime.  Finishing up Burn Notice and starting on Grimm at the moment...

Quote from: David Johansen on April 13, 2023, 09:12:55 PMA friend wanted to run a Star Trek 2d20 game and do Lower Decks style comedy.

If it was a good friend I would probably give it a try, mostly to get more experience with the 2d20 system. In general I find that comedy games aren't as funny as regular games. Players do wacky stuff in regular games, but in comedy games it often turns stupid. 

Quote from: Grognard GM on April 14, 2023, 03:39:55 PM
I'd be extremely curious to see their sales figures. I've seen no evidence of Lower Decks having mainstream appeal. And no, multiple seasons of a show proves nothing post-2016.

You are right about that.  Especially during the Pandemic streaming services were buying up ideas as people were pitching them.  Though I have been told that is starting to slow down.

To Re-state....

I Don't like the MODIPHIUS game mechanics for "Star Trek" - it just feels wrong.

My current GURPS campaign is set in the Star Trek universe circa 2262 - thats halfway between "Strange New Worlds"(2259-2260) and "TOS"(2265 to 2270). The GURPS rules are working out just fine - it helps that GCA now has the ST terminology and slang because of the GURPS adaptaion of 'Prime Directive'.

As for the show itself? - "Star Trek: Lower Decks"? I kind of like it.

However, one of my players in that Trek RPG campaign LOVES that show. She is attractive, a redhead, younger than me and I have been half interested in her for years.  SO, her enthusiasm for it beats all the the negative comments I see on here and in other places. Hell, when we had the 'Christmas season' game session I gave her a gift of the "Lower Decks" 2023 calendar - she loved it (We are just friends...)

- Ed C.

Quote from: Koltar on April 14, 2023, 04:17:09 PM
However, one of my players in that Trek RPG campaign LOVES that show. She is attractive, a redhead, younger than me and I have been half interested in her for years.  SO, her enthusiasm for it beats all the the negative comments I see on here and in other places. Hell, when we had the 'Christmas season' game session I gave her a gift of the "Lower Decks" 2023 calendar - she loved it (We are just friends...)

- Ed C.

Qapla', brother.

No, Klingon has never ever gotten anyone laid, but I'm old, married, and you get the sentiment.

Quote from: Thornhammer on April 15, 2023, 12:08:02 AM

Qapla', brother.

No, Klingon has never ever gotten anyone laid, but I'm old, married, and you get the sentiment.

Um, truthfully being 'Klingon' and speaking Klingon has gotten me laid - but this is not the forum for that.
(Only two of them were gamers. )

The media and pop culture is stuck 20 to 25 years in the past on certain things on Star Trek fandom.

The game campaign is going well again or even great. I am glad the group decided to continue playing even after our favorite player died.

-Ed C.

Quote from: finarvyn on April 14, 2023, 03:56:15 PM

Quote from: David Johansen on April 13, 2023, 09:12:55 PMA friend wanted to run a Star Trek 2d20 game and do Lower Decks style comedy.

If it was a good friend I would probably give it a try, mostly to get more experience with the 2d20 system. In general I find that comedy games aren't as funny as regular games. Players do wacky stuff in regular games, but in comedy games it often turns stupid. 

At one point the same player wanted to run a Sailor Moon game and someone asked why I went along with it and I answered "because he's a good customer" he was a bit hurt so I followed on with "I wouldn't have done it for a friend."  So I made an annoying little sister who's super speed powers came from drinking energy drinks.  Very much an appropriate trope to my mind but I'm glad to say it did scuttle the campaign fairly quickly.

Quote from: David Johansen on April 15, 2023, 11:57:39 PM

Quote from: finarvyn on April 14, 2023, 03:56:15 PM

Quote from: David Johansen on April 13, 2023, 09:12:55 PMA friend wanted to run a Star Trek 2d20 game and do Lower Decks style comedy.

If it was a good friend I would probably give it a try, mostly to get more experience with the 2d20 system. In general I find that comedy games aren't as funny as regular games. Players do wacky stuff in regular games, but in comedy games it often turns stupid. 

At one point the same player wanted to run a Sailor Moon game and someone asked why I went along with it and I answered "because he's a good customer" he was a bit hurt so I followed on with "I wouldn't have done it for a friend."  So I made an annoying little sister who's super speed powers came from drinking energy drinks.  Very much an appropriate trope to my mind but I'm glad to say it did scuttle the campaign fairly quickly.

That brings up the old trope of "Better no gaming than bad gaming", which I hate.



Somewhere between ecstacy and torture is the game where it was ok, yeah. I'll play a game I don't particulary like if my friends are involved. I'll drag myself to a game when I'm not in the mood, and usually have a good time when I get past dragging my ass out of the apartment. I'll put up with "problem players" so long as they don't get out of hand, and are open to modulating their behavior when asked. etc.

I've played a fair share of Paranoia, for example, which doesn't scratch my RP itch, but can be fun for an evening of bad nerd jokes and crazy gaming.

I mean, Rick and Morty got a D&D crossover, should it really surprise anyone that a Rick and Morty knock-off got a D&D knock-off crossover?

And if it upsets, just remember, it's a licensed game from Modiphius; they'll lose the license in one to two years and no one will remember it

Quote from: Tasty_Wind on April 16, 2023, 05:25:38 PMAnd if it upsets, just remember, it's a licensed game from Modiphius; they'll lose the license in one to two years and no one will remember it

Quote from: Grognard GM on April 12, 2023, 12:18:59 PM
https://intl.startrek.com/news/star-trek-adventures-brings-the-action-to-the-lower-decks

Seeing this published as an entire game line by a major RPG publisher hurts my soul.

Have you considered the license requires a book for each "show" or at least each current "show"?

I've zero experience with 2d20 Trek and much like Koltar, I'd GURPS it if anything (which is why I've the Prime Directive goods  available).  But I'm a Trek whore anyway, so there's my admitted bias there; only missing Decipher Trek from my collection and that is owing to me just generally decoupling from rpgs at that point in time and not wanting to chase that particular dragon after running down as much Last Unicorn items I could put my mitts on.

I dig Lower Decks as a show.  Yes, it's animated, yes, it's "Next Gen," and yes, it certainly doesn't shy away from trying to be funny.  But, it never seems derogatory in looking at the Trek milieu as a whole while looking for the laughs or calling back to familiar tropes (i.e. the command crew reviewing the ship via shuttle vis-a-vis ST:TMP, the ep. from Picard where the D is reintroduced, etc.).  All told, I'd say it does a better job of shepherding the Trek universe along for the masses into the future than the Star Wars sequels could ever dream of.  Obviously, my opinion and all of that.   

Having bought the Lower Decks adventure for 2d20, I'd even proffer that the adventure itself is very, very much Trekian as it was written by a long time Trek author whom seems to have garnered praise for "getting," the Star Trek vibe as well as writing no small amount of published non-game things centered around the Trek universe. 

Don't knock the stuff, is what I'm getting at.  However, I get the reticence too.

My friends and I just finished a year long campaign of Star Trek 2d20. It was one of the best games I've ever participated in.

While the core rulebook could certainly be formatted in a more intuitive fashion, the Modiphius system really worked for us.