Quote from: RPGPundit;1040413Roll-under is not my style.  But something I almost always use (you can tell because my OSR games all feature it) is roll D20+ ability score modifier + skill vs DC.

Yes, but it's a thread about what rules each of us uses:). Your style is your style...and in some ways, it seems good. In other ways, not so much, but I'm not playing with you;).

Quote from: RPGPundit;10416931. Roll under puts way more emphasis on ability score, rather than skill. A guy with a big skill bonus matters less than a guy with a big ability score.

That depends entirely on the relative values of skills and attributes. Someone with Skill-9 and Dex 9 is going to be far better than the guy with Dex-13, Skill-1.
Though usually, when running an OSR game, I assume that the attributes include training as well, except in exceedingly rare cases. So it never comes up because of the lack of separate skills.

Quote2. The modifiers seem to be just the right fit to represent raw talent, compared with skills. Though I usually don't make my skills (or DC values) as high as in 3e.

Shrug.
Your call. To me, there's no difference... But even when using skills, as happens in Kevin Craford games (and probably only in those, among the OSR), I'd much rather use 2d6/2d8+modifiers+skill.
And it should be noted that in his version, the maximum value of skills is big as the maximum value raw talent can add. Someone with both is going to be the best.

Quote3. I think it's more intuitive for players to be aiming for a natural 20 than for a 1.

While I find it a good way to teach that numbers don't inherently mean anything, and the winning number in one situation can be a losing one in another.
Of course, my players should all be used to this by now, having played both roll-under and roll-over systems.

Unless special weapons are required, a natural 20 is always a hit and a natural 1 is always a miss -regardless of modifiers.

Quote from: AsenRG;1041714Yes, but it's a thread about what rules each of us uses:). Your style is your style...and in some ways, it seems good. In other ways, not so much, but I'm not playing with you;).

Dude, I get that it's your style lately to just try to be oppositional of anything I say, but where the fuck did I say in my post that this was anything other than my fucking preference.  You're giving away what this is really about for you here. It's pretty sad.

Quote from: Elfdart;1041817Unless special weapons are required, a natural 20 is always a hit and a natural 1 is always a miss -regardless of modifiers.

Yes, I use that too.

Quote from: RPGPundit;1042633Dude, I get that it's your style lately to just try to be oppositional of anything I say, but where the fuck did I say in my post that this was anything other than my fucking preference.  You're giving away what this is really about for you here. It's pretty sad.

In this thread, you felt the need to comment on my post to say you wouldn't like that.
As for contradicting you, rest assured, I only contradict you when you're expressing an opinion I disagree with. Which, as it happens, is often the case, but such is life:D!
Of course, given the number of threads we've both posted in, this just means I contradict you a whole lot, but my point is, it's not personal;).

Rule I always apply:

"Bring me beer."

If I'm reffing, bringing me a beer gives you 2-4 HP back.  If your PC is not wounded they get +1 HP instead.

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;1042799Rule I always apply:

"Bring me beer."

If I'm reffing, bringing me a beer gives you 2-4 HP back.  If your PC is not wounded they get +1 HP instead.

If you're refereeing, I'll come prepared with a couple 6-packs:D!

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;1042799Rule I always apply:

"Bring me beer."

If I'm reffing, bringing me a beer gives you 2-4 HP back.  If your PC is not wounded they get +1 HP instead.

Amusingly, in over 30 years of gaming, alcohol has never been at the table. I like to have a clear head when playing.

Two or three beers in a night still leaves me with a clear head.  I'm not talking about pounding down shots of whiskey.

Not since one guy got so drunk he pissed on the telephone.

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;1042934Two or three beers in a night still leaves me with a clear head.  I'm not talking about pounding down shots of whiskey.

Not since one guy got so drunk he pissed on the telephone.

I'm not against drinking in moderation especially if people can do it responsibly. But my drug of choice for gaming is caffeine.

We occasionally drink at the table; not too often though. It's not banned, just a lot of my gamers aren't big drinkers.