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[PF/4e] It all makes sense now

Started by Benoist, August 16, 2009, 10:26:52 PM

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thedungeondelver

Oh that.  Yeah, I had forgotten about that.
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Mcbobbo sums it up nicely.

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Wow. I didn't know about that. This is tragic.

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Quote from: mhensley;321406Wotc's biggest mistake (and they have made a lot of them) wasn't the OGL, it was fumbling the GSL for 4e and driving Paizo from being their partner in promoting 4e to being a direct competitor.

QFT. It was a poor decision on their part.
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Quote from: thedungeondelver;321433I know you think you're being clever, but there's no dichotomy here.  Not even if you squint your eyes real hard and try to find one.
I don't think it's a "dichotomy" he's pointing at.  :snicker:
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Quote from: mhensley;321406Wotc's biggest mistake (and they have made a lot of them) wasn't the OGL, it was fumbling the GSL for 4e and driving Paizo from being their partner in promoting 4e to being a direct competitor.

Naw. Paizo didn't need the GSL to convince them to part ways with WotC. They wouldn't have wanted to play second fiddle for much longer.

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Quote from: ColonelHardisson;321316It sounds reasonable to me, except I'm much less inclined to believe Paizo purposely played the victim. I don't think they had to.

I agree with you there - the gaming community was more than willing to apply the label to them ASAP. Hell, they had the label since Dragon...

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Quote from: Seanchai;321539Naw. Paizo didn't need the GSL to convince them to part ways with WotC. They wouldn't have wanted to play second fiddle for much longer.

Seanchai
Yep.  Green Ronin and Mongoose had figured that out already.  The shift to 3.5 showed 3pp's how fragile their business models were, tied to the fortunes of a game that's not under their control.

Paizo managed, but all of the surviving 3pp's from the d20 boom have done so because they branched out - Paizo sells non-game-specific accessories; GR has M&M and several other games; Mongoose has Paranoia and tons of other crap.

I think making a stable game under their own control would have been smart, regardless.

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