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Speak to me of... Hollow Earth Expedition

Started by Caesar Slaad, August 29, 2006, 04:51:25 PM

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JamesV

#15
August 30, 2006, 09:59:11 PM
Quote from: Dr Rotwang!Okay, look.  The "Ubiquity Dice" thing may look kinda silly to you, but...I goofed around with 'em the other night and they're fun and damn handy.  I rolled a 14-dice die pool with only 5 Ubiquity Dice.  Nice.  Shot me a T-Rex!

Take THAT, T-Rex!  Yeah!  S'what you get for bein' all paleozoic and stuff!  

Scaly bastard.

The game has it's own set of dice?
That's crazy talk!
So, Doc, how do they work?
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#16
August 30, 2006, 10:13:41 PM
You have 3 types of a d8 -- a d1, a d2 and a d3.  A d1 is marked with an equal number of 0s and 1s; a d2 has 0, 1 and 2 and a d3 goes 0,1,2 and 3.  They simulate the same odds as rolling, say, 3 dice and looking for evens.

They're different colors for ease of looking at them and figuring out what you need.  

Gotta roll 14 dice?  Get 3d3, 2d2 and 1d1.  (3x3) + (2x2) + 1 = FOURTEEN!
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Caesar Slaad

#17
August 30, 2006, 11:14:03 PM
Quote from: Dr Rotwang!You have 3 types of a d8 -- a d1, a d2 and a d3.  A d1 is marked with an equal number of 0s and 1s; a d2 has 0, 1 and 2 and a d3 goes 0,1,2 and 3.  They simulate the same odds as rolling, say, 3 dice and looking for evens.

They're different colors for ease of looking at them and figuring out what you need.  

Gotta roll 14 dice?  Get 3d3, 2d2 and 1d1.  (3x3) + (2x2) + 1 = FOURTEEN!

Interesting.

It sounds like Exalted could use that. :)
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JamesV

#18
August 30, 2006, 11:17:57 PM
That's a really creative way to keep die pools small. I'm impressed.
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#19
August 31, 2006, 08:36:40 AM
Okay, can you give me an example? I'm not seeing how those turn out equivalent.

The d2... how many of each number are on the dice? It doesn't seem evenly divisible (with 3 results...)

Can you give me an example of counting your 14 die roll?
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mearls

#20
August 31, 2006, 12:22:33 PM
Quote from: Caesar SlaadOkay, can you give me an example? I'm not seeing how those turn out equivalent.

The d2... how many of each number are on the dice? It doesn't seem evenly divisible (with 3 results...)

Can you give me an example of counting your 14 die roll?

Each die represents some number of dice rolled, each with 50% result.

So, a d1 is rolling 1 die with a 50% chance of success. Half the sides are blank, half have 1's.

A d2 is like rolling 2 dice, each with a 50% chance of success. Two sides are blank, two sides have a 2, and four sides have a 1.

A d3 is the same as rolling 3 dice.

It's an interesting idea. I bought a set with the core book to see how well they hold up in play. My worry is that it's easy to confuse the dice, since they're all the same size (d8s) though they are different colors.
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#21
August 31, 2006, 01:15:15 PM
Quote from: mearlsMy worry is that it's easy to confuse the dice, since they're all the same size (d8s) though they are different colors.
*shrug* Ya get used to it.  I did, and I ain't no great shakes.
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#22
August 31, 2006, 01:21:58 PM
Quote from: mearlsEach die represents some number of dice rolled, each with 50% result.

So, a d1 is rolling 1 die with a 50% chance of success. Half the sides are blank, half have 1's.

A d2 is like rolling 2 dice, each with a 50% chance of success. Two sides are blank, two sides have a 2, and four sides have a 1.

A d3 is the same as rolling 3 dice.

Now that makes sense. What they do, it seems, is take a normal binomial style dice pool system and collapse it down. Clever.

QuoteIt's an interesting idea. I bought a set with the core book to see how well they hold up in play. My worry is that it's easy to confuse the dice, since they're all the same size (d8s) though they are different colors.

My concern -- that I expressed on RPGnet -- is that the terminology would be confusing. What they call a D3 is not what a normal gamer thinks of a d3. Respondants in that thread seemed to wave it off as no problem, but IME, that's just the niggly little ingrained detail that would trip a casual gamer up.
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Mcrow

#23
August 31, 2006, 01:26:44 PM
Quote from: Caesar SlaadMy concern -- that I expressed on RPGnet -- is that the terminology would be confusing. What they call a D3 is not what a normal gamer thinks of a d3. Respondants in that thread seemed to wave it off as no problem, but IME, that's just the niggly little ingrained detail that would trip a casual gamer up.

I just finished reading the book lastnight and I don't recall them using terminology like d3 and such. IIRC, they just refer to the # of dice to be rolled and Ubiquity dice are not the assumed method of dice rolling as the rules are written. There is a small section that explaind the Ubiquity dice, but thats about it.

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#24
August 31, 2006, 01:35:44 PM
Yeah, it's a surprisingly easy adjustment to make.  I guess you could say "Roll 2Ud3", or something, but...I found it was easy to adjust to, myself.  

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#25
August 31, 2006, 01:42:20 PM
Quote from: Dr Rotwang!Apply directly to the forehead!

that sir warrants this: :sillyhat:

if I have to see that add again, I swear.:gnasher:

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#26
August 31, 2006, 01:45:10 PM
Oh, you'll be OK.
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#27
September 01, 2006, 10:18:39 AM
I posted my review of HEX in the reviews section.
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