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Something Wrong with Feng Shui 2

Started by Spike, July 01, 2017, 10:40:17 AM

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Spike

Quote from: TrippyHippy;972643So, in short, you're just full of shit?

Absolutely, but I eat a lot of fiber, so that's to be expected. What can I say? I love my Grape Nuts.
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Spike

Quote from: Skarg;972501Spike, I love your reviews and commentaries. They're generally informative and entertaining and explain perspectives on game systems in ways I can relate to. And they tend to make me feel very happy that I ignored and avoided the games in question.

I do aim to explain the why's behind why I like and dislike things... its a sort of personal quirk of mine.  I'm never happy just hating x or liking y... I gotta know exactly what it is that makes it so.

Funny enough I had a chat with a roommate about just that the other day. Apparently this puts me into a 'You People' catagory of film goers... he wanted to know what sort of movies 'You People' liked.

Which, amusingly, is mostly the same shit ALL Those Other People like too.  I just talk about it more.
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Nexus

#17
Quote from: TrippyHippy;972559Feng Shui (1st edition) was 256 pages long. Feng Shui 2 is 356 pages long. How is that 'literally three times the size'?

Its the new math.

Quote from: TrippyHippy;972643So, in short, you're just full of shit?

Yep, you can easily find the page counts for either edition by looking up reviews on line. Its not rigorous number crunching to compare simple numbers. And if you're not even going to be that rigorous don't use terms like "literally".
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Nexus

#18
Quote from: TrippyHippy;972643So, in short, you're just full of shit?

Yep, you can easily find the page counts for either edition by looking up reviews on line. Its not rigorous number crunching to compare to simple numbers. And if you're not even going to be that rigorous don't use terms like "literally".
Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."

Abraxus

I just wish they would release more material for the new edition. Releasing a new edition and nothing else justcserms like a waste to me at least. Befote anyone says it no I'm not goung to but the first edition books to convert them. I'm too lazy and quite frankly if I have to do that I mst just as well buy the first edition.

Biscuitician

The only thing wrong with it are some of the abilities are rubbish (like Prodigal Leap which does nothing), and that getting rid of the Buro was a terrible idea. Having a future dystopia where the state plundered ancient china for demons to cyber-ize was very cool. Now it's just mad max with no real connection to the rest.

Caesar Slaad

I have no problems with the size of the book. Make the naked comparisons all you want, the fact is this: the system is NOT COMPLICATED. I didn't go grab my old book to see what all had been added, but nothing strikes me as something that they were wrong to put it. It's has a good deal of setting material and sample opposition.
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Just Another Snake Cult

What did they replace the Architects with?

My two favorite bits in Seed of the New Flesh are how in AD 2056 Daniel (Lizard Music) Pinkwater is considered one of the great literary minds of the 20th Century and most buddy cop action films are also gay romances.
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Quote from: Just Another Snake Cult;972710What did they replace the Architects with?

My two favorite bits in Seed of the New Flesh are how in AD 2056 Daniel (Lizard Music) Pinkwater is considered one of the great literary minds of the 20th Century and most buddy cop action films are also gay romances.

I liked the section on everything in the (then) modern day that people in the year 2056 would find incredibly offensive. If I recall, it was the section of the book that Stolze was proudest of.

Caesar Slaad

Quote from: Just Another Snake Cult;972710What did they replace the Architects with?

A post apocalyptic wasteland that came about as a result of a "chi bomb", with a few dystopian settlements. So think Mad Max where you can make a pit stop in Escape from New York.
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Spike

Quote from: Nexus;972684And if you're not even going to be that rigorous don't use terms like "literally".

I literally don't care.
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Nexus

#26
Quote from: Spike;972788I literally don't care.

*shrug*

You were the one bitching about some one misunderstanding you and calling you out on an observably false and easily checked claim. Words mean things. Learn to use to them.
Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."

Dumarest

Quote from: Spike;972788I literally don't care.

;)

:rolleyes:

Biscuitician

Quote from: Caesar Slaad;972715A post apocalyptic wasteland that came about as a result of a "chi bomb", with a few dystopian settlements. So think Mad Max where you can make a pit stop in Escape from New York.

Yeah, I just think it's out of sync with the martial arts vibe the game has, which is my preference. I've always preferred that aspect rather than just a generic action movie vibe. YMMV

san dee jota

Quote from: Biscuitician;972837Yeah, I just think it's out of sync with the martial arts vibe the game has, which is my preference. I've always preferred that aspect rather than just a generic action movie vibe. YMMV

It's... uh... a love letter to Heroic Trio 2?  

As for Feng Shui 2....  It's not good.  I mean, it took a simple system and streamlined it to the point of being mechanically dull.  It tightens down Sorcery to make it harder to learn Shticks, without realizing that Movement Sorcery doesn't mean much when any PC can slide down a staircase by riding on an ancient Chinese shield as part of a Stunt.  It offers up 2 Transformed Animal packages, suggests it may give more later, then gives the rules so players can make their own.  It totally wipes out the Architects through the power of authorial fiat, which is all big and bad and scary... and also pretty dull and implausible (and I say this in regards to a game with kidnapped and weaponized demons from mythic china).