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So, tell me about Star Wars Saga Edition

Started by 3rik, March 16, 2014, 08:24:42 AM

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Endless Flight

#30
March 18, 2014, 08:54:29 AM
The books are nice to look at.

There are pros and cons to every Star Wars game. It just depends on what bothers you the most.

Warboss Squee

#31
March 18, 2014, 10:06:30 AM
Quote from: 3rik;737256Overall I get the impression there's a lot of "fixing the rules" going on. The consensus, even among people who like the game, seems to be that at least some fixing is required. I don't find that particularly appealing.

Also, a sneak peek revealed a lot of repeated illustrations throughout the core book. How bad is it?

Not very. Even EotE has some old art. Mainly in the gear.

Omega

#32
March 18, 2014, 10:11:27 AM
Well. It is not a card game like Marvel and Dragonlance SAGA right?

Skywalker

#33
March 18, 2014, 02:56:19 PM
Quote from: Omega;737280Well. It is not a card game like Marvel and Dragonlance SAGA right?

Nope. Different use of "Saga".

Skywalker

#34
March 18, 2014, 02:58:52 PM Last Edit: March 18, 2014, 03:01:17 PM by Skywalker
Quote from: 3rik;737256Overall I get the impression there's a lot of "fixing the rules" going on. The consensus, even among people who like the game, seems to be that at least some fixing is required. I don't find that particularly appealing.

Not really. There's one main issue with Use the Force Skill Focus and that's a very easy fix and a general caution about high level play. You would get the same kind of responses with WEG Star Wars with use static defences or some such, and most likely most other RPG.

In terms of art, I think some of the chapter art is used in the chapter opening collage art, which provides a preview of what the chapter is about. I quite like it. In fact, the form factor being almost exactly cinema screen size and a number of other simple physical tricks like this one are for good effect IMO

Omega

#35
March 18, 2014, 03:55:02 PM
Quote from: 3rik;737256Overall I get the impression there's a lot of "fixing the rules" going on. The consensus, even among people who like the game, seems to be that at least some fixing is required. I don't find that particularly appealing.

Also, a sneak peek revealed a lot of repeated illustrations throughout the core book. How bad is it?

Keep in mind some of the fixes were a YMMV sort of thing. And even these are mostly easy and very few.

A recurring trend with the SW RPGs has been that at least one force power/skill/whatever was just a little, or alot, overtorqued. I remember something about Force Lightning in the WEG version, and not sure what version had the woefully incompetent Stormtroopers.

But to their credit the WEG and SAGA versions seem to have the least issues.

Kiero

#36
March 18, 2014, 05:03:10 PM
Quote from: 3rik;737256Overall I get the impression there's a lot of "fixing the rules" going on. The consensus, even among people who like the game, seems to be that at least some fixing is required. I don't find that particularly appealing.

I have never in my 20-odd years of playing RPGs encountered a single system that was not in need of at least some "fixing". RPGs are written by fallible human beings who inevitably have differing tastes and preferences to the people playing them. Thus there will always be things that need to be changed.
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Emperor Norton

#37
March 18, 2014, 05:17:19 PM Last Edit: March 18, 2014, 05:20:34 PM by Emperor Norton
I always just switched skill focus to:

+2, +3 at 3rd level, +4 at 6th level, +5 at 9th level.

In Saga Edition and it worked out fine. Didn't change when people could take it, just made it less "superpowered" at first level.

(Without house rules, Human Jedi who takes Skill Focus (Use the Force) and Force Training at level 1 can really tear things up).

3rik

#38
March 18, 2014, 08:41:33 PM
Quote from: Kiero;737339I have never in my 20-odd years of playing RPGs encountered a single system that was not in need of at least some "fixing". RPGs are written by fallible human beings who inevitably have differing tastes and preferences to the people playing them. Thus there will always be things that need to be changed.
I know that, but suggested fixes for Star Wars Saga seem particularly prevalent when ever the game is discussed.
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Skywalker

#39
March 18, 2014, 09:09:32 PM
Quote from: 3rik;737391I know that, but suggested fixes for Star Wars Saga seem particularly prevalent when ever the game is discussed.

That is not my experience. Even your recent WEG thread has seen house rules being raised already. And it won't be long until someone suggests Mini-6 (for good reason) :)

Novastar

#40
March 21, 2014, 08:41:59 PM
Quote from: JeremyR;736931That's simply true of Star Wars as a whole. For a repressive dictatorship, they are awfully lenient when it comes to freedom of movement and weapon ownership.
Only out in the Outer Rim, which is supposed to be like the Wild West.

QuoteI mean, what was Luke Skywalker flying around in and shooting wamp rats with? You never saw it in the movie, but they had concept art. Basically a fighter jet with a laser cannon
In Star Wars?
More like a beat-up old pickup, with a gun rack.

Though...it still doesn't make Luke look any less the psychopath; shooting small animals for "fun", and all... :p
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#41
March 22, 2014, 12:20:43 AM
Quote from: Novastar;738080Only out in the Outer Rim, which is supposed to be like the Wild West.


In Star Wars?
More like a beat-up old pickup, with a gun rack.

Though...it still doesn't make Luke look any less the psychopath; shooting small animals for "fun", and all... :p

Well, that depends on if you consider "redneck" synonymous with "psychopath". ;)

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Emperor Norton

#42
March 22, 2014, 01:37:50 AM
Quote from: Novastar;738080Though...it still doesn't make Luke look any less the psychopath; shooting small animals for "fun", and all... :p

Quote from: Luke SkywalkerIt's not impossible. I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16 back home, they're not much bigger than two meters.

... Bigger than two meters is small?!

Idk, I always got the impression that 2-3 meter long rats were a fairly dangerous species that had to be kept in check like coyotes out west.

Lynn

#43
March 22, 2014, 04:30:36 AM
Quote from: Emperor Norton;738106... Bigger than two meters is small?!

Idk, I always got the impression that 2-3 meter long rats were a fairly dangerous species that had to be kept in check like coyotes out west.

Mebbe there was good eatin' on um.
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jeff37923

#44
March 22, 2014, 04:48:59 AM
Quote from: Lynn;738123Mebbe there was good eatin' on um.

Somehow I don't think they taste like chicken.

"Meh."
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