Quote from: Wolf, Richard;580190No, no, not again...
http://shii.org/knows/Zybourne_Clock

Ironically containing less derp than jhkim's demographic-free D&D.

Go for Amnesty International. Much more worthwhile.

Quote from: SineNomine;580191Petty acts of virtue tend to make people give themselves permission to be bastards thereafter. This is visible in the rpg.net thread, where support of the petition is taken by several participants as license to be thermonuclear assholes to anyone failing to show similar enthusiasm for the idea. Hell, they're even tearing strips off fellow signatories for not supporting it with the right mindset. It's a sight that's equal parts hilarious and contemptible, and doubtless responsible for the thunderous support the petitioner's goal has received.

Yeah, that's a pretty accurate description of the social dynamic in those discussions. "Equal parts hilarious and contemptible" is almost exactly how I described it to a friend who used to be a contributing member but doesn't post anymore because the site has gone bonkers.

WotC knows what demographic they want to pursue and should create artwork that draws those demographics.

But looking at the 4e cover, I don't know what they achieved. Power female, clearly non-white, but a hottie with a dragon man companion with a mega-sword. Did we get more females in the hobby? Did we get more non-white players? Did the "more inclusive art" from WotC or Paizo do anything for anyone?

Quote from: SineNomine;579728Medieval Africa has were-leopard cults, actual amazon warriors that don't require ahistorical padding to justify, sorcerer-kings, fabulous golden treasures, libraries crammed with books of ancient lore, turbaned chain-armored cavalry lancers, gigantic thatch-roofed palaces, gigantic stone palaces, ruthless intrigue in those palaces, complex theological structures and the most elegant-looking swords in the world. If you can't make compelling gaming content out of that it better be because you're in a coma.

I want to play this!!!

Quote from: TristramEvans;579860When a character's butthurt reaches 100 points, they explode in flames and self-pity.

I would play a fun card game poking at forum behavior.

Quote from: Killfuck Soulshitter;580020My theory is that the main demographic of gamers (30s and 40s American white males) are a quivering blubbery mass of low testosterone pussies, particularly as they reach middle age, and sink back into a morass of domination by their boss at work and their harridan, bovine wives at home.

I'm good with this theory.

I have seen plenty of sad sack evidence that backs it up and I am shocked by the "wife = mother" mentality of far too many 30/40 somethings.  It's incomprehensible compared to my father's generation who told their wives they were off to poker night, not begging for permission to escape the "honey do" list for a few hours.

Quote from: Spinachcat;580296WotC knows what demographic they want to pursue and should create artwork that draws those demographics.

But looking at the 4e cover, I don't know what they achieved. Power female, clearly non-white, but a hottie with a dragon man companion with a mega-sword. Did we get more females in the hobby? Did we get more non-white players? Did the "more inclusive art" from WotC or Paizo do anything for anyone?

I haven't seen a single dragon person at a game table, either. Clearly D&D failed.

I'd actually rather see a varied variety of people in my game books. Doesn't mean I want a strict quota, although if that's all handled at the production stage and I don't notice, I won't really care.

QuoteI want to play this!!!

Well, you know what to do. Some people are able to contribute to the hobby by creating - SineNomine, for example. And that's great.

But not everybody has the time or talent to do that. So some of us have to contribute with our wallets.

I've been kinda interested in an African-based fantasy game for a while now, but not had the time to dig into it. Now somebody is, and in return for doing that work, I'm going to reward them. With money. If non-traditional fantasy settings make a lot of money, eventually someone will notice... as Kevin has said elsewhere, he's done pretty well so far for an indie RPG publisher.

QuoteI have seen plenty of sad sack evidence that backs it up and I am shocked by the "wife = mother" mentality of far too many 30/40 somethings.  It's incomprehensible compared to my father's generation who told their wives they were off to poker night, not begging for permission to escape the "honey do" list for a few hours.

Eh. I'll clear stuff with adorable girlfriend, because it's not fair on her to just go away with no warning, especially with a child to consider. And she'll do the same thing; but it's for organisation rather than permission. I mean, if your example, what if the mother wanted to go out that evening as well, and nobody was left to look after the kids? Someone would have to stay.

It's basic respect for other people, really. Wife = partner.

Quote from: Ladybird;579952Like Troll : The Provoking?

Fuck it, I'd do it as a 3:16 hack if I wanted it on the tabletop. Sites, posters, arguments, likes... yeah, it translates well enough.

Um...I was just making a joke, actually. I don't think what I wrote is actually playable in any sane sense.

Quote from: TristramEvans;580409Um...I was just making a joke, actually. I don't think what I wrote is actually playable in any sane sense.

Do you think T:tP is?

Quote from: Ladybird;580413Do you think T:tP is?

I'm not familiar with it.