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So how many OSR games are going to go away if OGL 1.1 is a thing?

Started by weirdguy564, January 08, 2023, 12:54:54 PM

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Effete

#150
January 10, 2023, 09:31:47 PM
Quote from: JeremyR on January 10, 2023, 08:45:53 PM
Quote from: Effete on January 10, 2023, 03:26:30 PM
The OSR community also didn't do themselves any favors. All the people who so vehemently claimed over the years that "OSR is specifically DnD-adjacent" only built their own casket. Your words can now be used against you if you try to "uncouple" your game from DnD/WotC property.

Any other meaning is well, meaningless. Actual old school games ranged in complexity of Tunnels & Trolls (very simple) to most the games FGU put out (needing a degree in accounting). It's often instead meant as grim dark or rules light, but again, that's not actually the case of how things were back in the day, as those were the days when munchkins ruled and Deities & Demigods was used as a monster manual.

The whole point of the OSR was to publish material that was more or less compatible with pre-WOTC D&D, including your house rules as a complete game if you so chose.

Sure. I'm not saying people were wrong to make the claim. I don't think anyone really anticipated this OGL debacle would force them to distance themselves the way it's doing now. My only point is that simply changing the names of terms (but leaving mechanics intact) may be a weak defense if your game was intentionally designed to mirror older DnD. Although mechanics cannot be copyrighted, using specific mechanics in a specific pattern can be construed as an identifying mark and deemed copyright infringment.

Even if it's a weak case, how long do you think one of these smaller publishers will last in court? Like people have been saying these passed few days, WotC doesn't need to win, they just need to get you to give up.

Daddy Warpig

#151
January 10, 2023, 09:55:44 PM
I was presenting those options because I think you should use them and could with no risk.

Quote from: David Johansen on January 10, 2023, 07:26:58 PM
Quote from: Daddy Warpig on January 10, 2023, 03:56:53 PM
Gary Gygax, from AD&D:

It was initially contemplated to term character power as rank, spell complexity was to be termed power, and monster strength was to be termed as order.

Thus: A 9th rank character encountered a 7th order monster on the 8th (dungeon) level and attacked it with a 4th power spell.


But does that mean I should or shouldn't use those I wonder?
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Semaj Khan

#152
January 10, 2023, 11:25:31 PM
Word is that Matt Finch will do a show tomorrow night on his YT channel.

I'm very interested to hear what he has to say.
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Omega

#153
January 10, 2023, 11:47:05 PM
Quote from: Premier on January 09, 2023, 07:54:54 PM
Quote from: Frey on January 09, 2023, 03:53:44 PM
A paladin with healing hands? Hasbro can decide they infringe their IP, and go after them.

Minor point of order: that's from Arthurian legend, more specifically the Healing of Sir Urry. Hasbro can't claim ownership of that.

Space Marines and Droid were terms before as well and now someone thinks they own those. Also for years one guy was suing people over the use of the word Edge in games. And so many many more.

David Johansen

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January 10, 2023, 11:56:14 PM Last Edit: January 11, 2023, 12:03:11 AM by David Johansen
Quote from: Daddy Warpig on January 10, 2023, 09:55:44 PM
I was presenting those options because I think you should use them and could with no risk.

Works for me.

With Kobold press announcing their Project Black Flag and Troll Lord Games talking about changing Castles and Crusades, I suspect it's already too late to try to introduce a new public domain standard.  I'll probably finish polishing up what I've got but everyone's already going their separate ways.
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THE_Leopold

#155
January 11, 2023, 09:26:56 AM
Quote from: David Johansen on January 10, 2023, 11:56:14 PM
Quote from: Daddy Warpig on January 10, 2023, 09:55:44 PM
I was presenting those options because I think you should use them and could with no risk.

Works for me.

With Kobold press announcing their Project Black Flag and Troll Lord Games talking about changing Castles and Crusades, I suspect it's already too late to try to introduce a new public domain standard.  I'll probably finish polishing up what I've got but everyone's already going their separate ways.

Now is the perfect time to introduce new standards. Folks are wide open to ideas and throwing your hat in the ring isn't going to cause any more of a storm than anyone else doing the same.
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Steven Mitchell

#156
January 11, 2023, 11:04:29 AM
With a few exceptions, good "standards" on  things like this don't come about due to ivory tower standards design, AKA design by committee.  Instead, a bunch of people throw things out there, and where there are obvious benefits to one or the other, a standard may emerge.  Or not.  Or more likely, some parts will converge and some will not, sometimes in surprising ways. 
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