This is NOT the cover to my upcoming RPG, The Invisible College; but it's a good example of the type of art you'll be likely to find inside...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EpDAGPlXcAEF9m2?format=jpg&name=large)
No video with your sales pitch? Man, you're a bummer. ;)
Nice art. What is "Authentic Magick?"
The Invisible College? That sounds pretty cool Pundit. Interesting artwork there too.
Quote from: Mishihari on December 12, 2020, 06:12:37 PM
Nice art. What is "Authentic Magick?"
Remember Black Leaf?
Pepperidge Farm remembers...
Quote from: Mishihari on December 12, 2020, 06:12:37 PM
Nice art. What is "Authentic Magick?"
Magick the way actual modern occultists practice it. As opposed to magic just invented by a game designer that bears no resemblance to real-world occultism.
QuoteMagick the way actual modern occultists practice it. As opposed to magic just invented by a game designer that bears no resemblance to real-world occultism.
Moder... so you're going mostly with those pesky left-hand chaoticks?
Quote from: RPGPundit on December 12, 2020, 11:22:57 PM
Quote from: Mishihari on December 12, 2020, 06:12:37 PM
Nice art. What is "Authentic Magick?"
Magick the way actual modern occultists practice it. As opposed to magic just invented by a game designer that bears no resemblance to real-world occultism.
Interesting. I've long wondered if Katherine Kurtz's Adept books are based on a similar approach - they seem so to me. If you're familiar with the books, can you comment on if that's the type of play your game will provide?
Its important to use real imaginary magick and not fake imaginary magic.
Also add extra e's to your olde game to make it even more realistic.
Looks interesting.
Will have a look when it comes out.
Quote from: Shasarak on December 13, 2020, 09:29:26 PM
Its important to use real imaginary magick and not fake imaginary magic.
I think the history and depth of "real imaginary" magic actually does make it a lot more interesting than the other.
Quote from: Mishihari on December 13, 2020, 10:14:46 PM
Quote from: Shasarak on December 13, 2020, 09:29:26 PM
Its important to use real imaginary magick and not fake imaginary magic.
I think the history and depth of or "real imaginary" magic actually does make it a lot more interesting than the other.
I suppose that sometimes some people want a little documentary in their fantasy. I'm certainly not one that's interested in this.
I for one am immensely excited to get my hands on this book. Who knows maybe my dad will like it.
I cannot say the majority of your products interest me personally Pundit, but I really do admire your treading off the beaten path of OSR works. None of the SOS we see from most OSR publishers/creators.
Hope it does well for you!
Art looks cool. Looking forward to this release.
Quote from: RPGPundit on December 12, 2020, 01:25:27 PM
This is NOT the cover to my upcoming RPG, The Invisible College; but it's a good example of the type of art you'll be likely to find inside...
I'm always interested in getting the best magic rules for a particular RPG system. Looking forward to yours.
Quote from: Wicked Woodpecker of West on December 13, 2020, 11:28:39 AM
QuoteMagick the way actual modern occultists practice it. As opposed to magic just invented by a game designer that bears no resemblance to real-world occultism.
Moder... so you're going mostly with those pesky left-hand chaoticks?
In the game, when characters advance they'll be able to choose, if they're advancing as magicians, to advance in the more traditional (ie. golden dawn/A.'.A.'. - style) magical curriculum of organized training, or as Chaos magicians.
Switching back and forth is allowed.
Quote from: HappyDaze on December 13, 2020, 10:26:37 PM
Quote from: Mishihari on December 13, 2020, 10:14:46 PM
Quote from: Shasarak on December 13, 2020, 09:29:26 PM
Its important to use real imaginary magick and not fake imaginary magic.
I think the history and depth of or "real imaginary" magic actually does make it a lot more interesting than the other.
I suppose that sometimes some people want a little documentary in their fantasy. I'm certainly not one that's interested in this.
I think it's not so much documentary as tapping into people's actual methods of thought. Tolkein's work is in part compelling because he draws on actual folklore and myth, which reflects the thoughts of a great many people and is already familiar to the general populace, and thus seems reasonable to us. Sourcing from folks' actual belief in magic similarly invokes ( ;D ) the prior vetting of the material by many, many people and ideas that have filtered out into culture.
Quote from: Mishihari on December 13, 2020, 03:21:07 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit on December 12, 2020, 11:22:57 PM
Quote from: Mishihari on December 12, 2020, 06:12:37 PM
Nice art. What is "Authentic Magick?"
Magick the way actual modern occultists practice it. As opposed to magic just invented by a game designer that bears no resemblance to real-world occultism.
Interesting. I've long wondered if Katherine Kurtz's Adept books are based on a similar approach - they seem so to me. If you're familiar with the books, can you comment on if that's the type of play your game will provide?
Not familiar, sorry. I guess I'd say the closest thing to what my game will be like is a mix of This:
(https://img2.docer.pl/image/l/xsc88c8.png)
and a bit of this:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EfqAZXTXoAM0W3n.jpg)
With this:
(https://pipocamoderna.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Strange-Angel-Poster-Key-Art.jpg)
and this:
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-H-emd4BSVZM/VVa4Y_nRm1I/AAAAAAAAGFY/9AdYB5LaQ1s/s1600/Promethea12p17.jpg)
And of course this:
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-q_6FK__e6Dc/T6GbbRvLK5I/AAAAAAAAAHA/pzMvPeuaGVY/s1600/ana1.jpg)
Quote from: Shasarak on December 13, 2020, 09:29:26 PM
Its important to use real imaginary magick and not fake imaginary magic.
Yes. Because real imaginary magick actually does stuff in the real world. Real imaginary magick caused the sexual revolution and got us to the moon.
Quote from: JeffB on December 14, 2020, 11:29:17 AM
I cannot say the majority of your products interest me personally Pundit, but I really do admire your treading off the beaten path of OSR works. None of the SOS we see from most OSR publishers/creators.
Hope it does well for you!
Thank you. And well, Lion & Dragon went spectacularly well for me, in spite of taking the system way over to an extreme edge of where those rules can go.
We'll see if there will be a similar interest in running the OSR mechanic in a modern fantasy action/occult game.
By the way, here's the REAL cover:
Quote from: RPGPundit on December 12, 2020, 11:22:57 PM
Quote from: Mishihari on December 12, 2020, 06:12:37 PM
Nice art. What is "Authentic Magick?"
Magick the way actual modern occultists practice it. As opposed to magic just invented by a game designer that bears no resemblance to real-world occultism.
I disagree with this. It sounds dangerous, like 'children playing with napalm' dangerous. Then again, I didn't walk away from this stuff, I RAN! (and I'll keep running..)
Good luck with the book though. Enough interest for the subject matter.
Quote from: consolcwby on December 15, 2020, 11:57:33 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit on December 12, 2020, 11:22:57 PM
Quote from: Mishihari on December 12, 2020, 06:12:37 PM
Nice art. What is "Authentic Magick?"
Magick the way actual modern occultists practice it. As opposed to magic just invented by a game designer that bears no resemblance to real-world occultism.
I disagree with this. It sounds dangerous, like 'children playing with napalm' dangerous. Then again, I didn't walk away from this stuff, I RAN! (and I'll keep running..)
Good luck with the book though. Enough interest for the subject matter.
Nah. I don't include anything that can actually do anything in the book, only descriptions of how magical theories, practices and techniques work. I even alter some of the ineffable names a bit, in case any idiot thinks of treating my RPG book like a grimoire.
Quote from: Mishihari on December 13, 2020, 10:14:46 PM
Quote from: Shasarak on December 13, 2020, 09:29:26 PM
Its important to use real imaginary magick and not fake imaginary magic.
I think the history and depth of "real imaginary" magic actually does make it a lot more interesting than the other.
I think having Bonewitz (author of "real magic") pontificating for hours in Book World when I worked there and couldn't leave soured me on it but I am sure Pundit can make something interesting out of it if anyone can. We had an extensive section of that type of thing which Pundit could have used for research if he weren't thousands of miles away and if the bookstore still existed.
Quote from: WillInNewHaven on December 17, 2020, 10:54:16 AM
Quote from: Mishihari on December 13, 2020, 10:14:46 PM
Quote from: Shasarak on December 13, 2020, 09:29:26 PM
Its important to use real imaginary magick and not fake imaginary magic.
I think the history and depth of "real imaginary" magic actually does make it a lot more interesting than the other.
I think having Bonewitz (author of "real magic") pontificating for hours in Book World when I worked there and couldn't leave soured me on it but I am sure Pundit can make something interesting out of it if anyone can. We had an extensive section of that type of thing which Pundit could have used for research if he weren't thousands of miles away and if the bookstore still existed.
Isaac Bonewitz was a complete buffoon.
Quote from: RPGPundit on December 17, 2020, 07:04:27 PM
Quote from: WillInNewHaven on December 17, 2020, 10:54:16 AM
Quote from: Mishihari on December 13, 2020, 10:14:46 PM
Quote from: Shasarak on December 13, 2020, 09:29:26 PM
Its important to use real imaginary magick and not fake imaginary magic.
I think the history and depth of "real imaginary" magic actually does make it a lot more interesting than the other.
I think having Bonewitz (author of "real magic") pontificating for hours in Book World when I worked there and couldn't leave soured me on it but I am sure Pundit can make something interesting out of it if anyone can. We had an extensive section of that type of thing which Pundit could have used for research if he weren't thousands of miles away and if the bookstore still existed.
Isaac Bonewitz was a complete buffoon.
For awhile there, he was hot stuff in the field. I am talking about book sales, not the effectiveness of his methods, since all such things are bullshit. But he was a reasonably reliable source of hot air.
The only significant magical act Bonewitz ever performed was game the University of California system at a time when it was at its stupidest, to get a "degree in witchcraft" or whatever he called it.
I think he said that his PHD was in "Practical Magic." Since that was the title of his book, he may have picked it himself. The only degree for which I have seen any evidence, his BA was simply in "Magic." He did pay for a pizza for everyone in the store and he passed away a decade ago, so I'm done talking about him.
Quote from: WillInNewHaven on December 17, 2020, 10:54:16 AM
We had an extensive section of that type of thing which Pundit could have used for research if he weren't thousands of miles away and if the bookstore still existed.
Now that is interesting. Did the bookshop stop existing because he used the Magic or because he did not use the Magic?
Quote from: WillInNewHaven on December 18, 2020, 06:25:29 PM
I think he said that his PHD was in "Practical Magic." Since that was the title of his book, he may have picked it himself. The only degree for which I have seen any evidence, his BA was simply in "Magic." He did pay for a pizza for everyone in the store and he passed away a decade ago, so I'm done talking about him.
The BA was technically real. It was from an era where the UC system (or at least some of the schools) had briefly adopted a hippy-dippy concept of "students get to design their own BA title/field". And he chose "magic". It was actually so humiliating that it caused the university to give up that program.
Quote from: Shasarak on December 18, 2020, 08:32:43 PMNow that is interesting. Did the bookshop stop existing because he used the Magic or because he did not use the Magic?
When you understand the answer to this question, you will have achieved Enlightenment.
Book World closed because the landlord raised the rent, so we moved across the street. Location is really important and people just never got into the new location.
Location is crazy important. I've seen on commercial streets where you can literally have three storefronts in a row, in the middle of the block, and for some reason one of the three (sometimes the one in the middle!) can't hold a single successful business, while the ones on either side have both had the same business there for 30+ years!
Quote from: WillInNewHaven on December 19, 2020, 10:41:50 AM
Book World closed because the landlord raised the rent, so we moved across the street. Location is really important and people just never got into the new location.
In that case he should have used the Magic.
It would be worth the risk.
Quote from: Shasarak on December 21, 2020, 05:11:30 PM
Quote from: WillInNewHaven on December 19, 2020, 10:41:50 AM
Book World closed because the landlord raised the rent, so we moved across the street. Location is really important and people just never got into the new location.
In that case he should have used the Magic.
It would be worth the risk.
As in Magic: The Renting
or
Magic: The Leasing
??? ;D