Quote from: Shrieking Banshee;1132091I also asked myself this once. 'Is it better to burn out as a culture but have highspots or be long lasting and stagnant?'
And I couldn't come to a decision until I realised that if my ancestors have chosen the former, I wouldn't be here. I owe it to future generations to preserve them good as much as possible. As that is what I have been given.

This shit aint fads. Its how people lived their lives, and managed their communities and kept order and managed some level of harmony in times much more challenging then ours. In our modern nihilistic consumeristic post modernist culture yeah everything is a pointless fad. But to apply this view on the past reeks of arrogance.
Its completly true that in 100 years fart smelling hipsters will skoff at the way we lived our lives. I don't see that as a plus, as much as an example of humanities repeated hubris and unwillingness to learn from its own mistakes

is the degradation of millions a price worth paying tho?  Coz it seems the ones being asked to pay it don't think so.

Well, they're taking it to Trump like never before.

The Left CAN organize. Across the globe with their allies. They're looking to make Trump look as stupid as possible right now.

And, they're winning.

So, imagine a House and Presidency owned by the Libs with only a conservative Supreme Court to reign them in.

Pundit, it can get ugly for your crew.

Quote from: Theory of Games;1132192Well, they're taking it to Trump like never before.

The Left CAN organize. Across the globe with their allies. They're looking to make Trump look as stupid as possible right now.

And, they're winning.

So, imagine a House and Presidency owned by the Libs with only a conservative Supreme Court to reign them in.

Pundit, it can get ugly for your crew.

The left is a bunch of liars as always. They claiming Russia is fueling these protests when it's their own anti-patriotic shady organizations funding the mindless masses trying to destroy the best country in the world. The army needs to intervine immediately. We are losing NY and PA!

Quote from: Taggie;1132115Is the degradation of millions a price worth paying tho?  Coz it seems the ones being asked to pay it don't think so.

Your comparing reality to theory. And from a cushy vantage point only allowed by said ancestors you spit on.

Quote from: Shrieking Banshee;1132220Your comparing reality to theory. And from a cushy vantage point only allowed by said ancestors you spit on.

well gee, I guess I owe a bunch of rampaging thieves, rapists and paedophiles thanks then.....Because their ideological descendants are keeping the rape train going, and calling it conservatism.

Yes because only Conservatives can be evil. No liberal has ever been.

Rolling rolling keep them Narratives rolling...Rawhide.

Quote from: sureshot;1132227Yes because only Conservatives can be evil. No liberal has ever been.

Rolling rolling keep them Narratives rolling...Rawhide.

oh they can be, humans will human after all, just balance of probability says conservatives make a virtue of malicious evil.

Quote from: Taggie;1132041You got the terrorists wrong: the terrorists are the murderers in uniform, for to long they have killed, beaten and defiled without being held to account.

The funny thing about leftists is that no matter how much changes, they still pretend that we live in some sort of fantasy version of the 1950s where cops are just killing people at will all the time.

The fact is, the procedure that the officer used in the Floyd death was approved by the same Democrat leaders that are now encouraging the riots.

Quote from: Taggie;1132229oh they can be, humans will human after all, just balance of probability says conservatives make a virtue of malicious evil.

   Given that the one thing the American Left will never, ever yield an inch on is the absolute right to abortion on demand, preferably with as many people as possible implicated in it and forced to acknowledge it as good, this characterization feels a bit one-sided.

Quote from: hedgehobbit;1132233The funny thing about leftists is that no matter how much changes, they still pretend that we live in some sort of fantasy version of the 1950s where cops are just killing people at will all the time.

The fact is, the procedure that the officer used in the Floyd death was approved by the same Democrat leaders that are now encouraging the riots.

Fuck centrist liberals, what you thought I would like them?

Quote from: Shrieking Banshee;1131862So they take a mile, take two more, and then somebody says 'No' when they ask for the fourth and get pushed back a mile, and everybody celebrates. And then they do this again 10 years later.

Notice a pattern?

That's why it's called the 'Long March through Academia' or in our case Geekdom. Constant, slowly, inch by inch progress towards their goal of societal transformation. Keep on nudging that 'Overton Window' till their 'Radical' demands no longer seem radical to the majority.

They often rail on an on about the normalization of violence, or the normalization (or institutionalization) of racism. But they use the very same tactics to enforce their dogmas on the populace.

Quote from: Taggie;1132229oh they can be, humans will human after all, just balance of probability says conservatives make a virtue of malicious evil.

Mr. Floyd was murdered in a city with a Leftist mayor, police chief and district attorney in a state with a leftist governor and legislature and their party has been in power there for decades. The same for all the other cities where riots are breaking out.

New York, California, Chicago, Seattle, Philadelphia, Minnesota, Michigan... none of them have had a conservative in charge of them for decades and that's where all the charges of institutional racism are being levied. Why is it the fault of conservatives who haven't held power in these places since before Jimmy Carter was elected and not the people who've actually been in power there all this time?

All these virtue-signaling game companies have supported the people responsible for overseeing these police forces and now they're trying to pretend the results are actually the fault of their opponents.

Quote from: Chris24601;1132242Mr. Floyd was murdered in a city with a Leftist mayor, police chief and district attorney in a state with a leftist governor and legislature and their party has been in power there for decades. The same for all the other cities where riots are breaking out.

New York, California, Chicago, Seattle, Philadelphia, Minnesota, Michigan... none of them have had a conservative in charge of them for decades and that's where all the charges of institutional racism are being levied. Why is it the fault of conservatives who haven't held power in these places since before Jimmy Carter was elected and not the people who've actually been in power there all this time?

All these virtue-signaling game companies have supported the people responsible for overseeing these police forces and now they're trying to pretend the results are actually the fault of their opponents.

you appear to think that Democrats are anything other than a different flavor of conservative, you have the extreme right Republicans, and the hard to far right Democrats.

Quote from: Taggie;1132243you appear to think that Democrats are anything other than a different flavor of conservative, you have the extreme right Republicans, and the hard to far right Democrats.

Dude, you do you, but if you think the Democrats are on the far right of American politics then please explain why the Democratic Socialist and Green parties can't squeeze out 1% of the vote and why the Republicans hold any offices at all.

If these game companies really wanted to walk the walk in line with what you want they should just give away all their products for free to make up for their white privilege.

Quote from: Chris24601;1132257Dude, you do you, but if you think the Democrats are on the far right of American politics then please explain why the Democratic Socialist and Green parties can't squeeze out 1% of the vote and why the Republicans hold any offices at all.

If these game companies really wanted to walk the walk in line with what you want they should just give away all their products for free to make up for their white privilege.

I said far right, didn't mention 'american politics' politics is a spectrum and you have to asses where parties and policies sit on it in global terms, and right now America is looking as bad or worse than China, at least china isn't exporting it's oppressive violence, they are like black mirror versions of each other, with america hiding it's nature as a one party state slightly better.

Also, no, they should not give their games away for free, people don't need games to live, and for things people do, co-ops, communes and local community businesses are a way better idea.