Quote from: thedungeondelver on March 08, 2021, 03:45:40 PM

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Mike Mearls has done some legit, innovative shit in gaming.

Mike Mearls called me, and every other gun owner, agents of ISIS.  Not compared, not made a simile.  Fuck him and the horse he rode in on.  And fuck all of WotC for hiring a bunch of woke moral busybodies. 

D&D should've died in 1984.

My hope is in 5-10 years DnD will be so devalued I can buy the IP then hire a few people like Pubdit and Professor Dungeon Master to make the next real edition of DnD sans wokeism

Quote from: Ghostmaker on March 08, 2021, 08:34:43 AM
You would think after Price got the heave-ho from Paizo, WotC might be just the teensiest bit hesitant to hire her on.

Heh. Shows what I know, I guess.

The issue is WotC has already been infiltrated by SJWs much like Marvel, DC and many other cultural icons, so they keep hiring other wokeies no matter their former sins. The good news is this means all these companies are slowly dying and will hopefully be purchased by true fans and remade from the ashes.

Quote from: Ghostmaker on December 20, 2021, 08:30:12 PM

Quote from: Melan on December 20, 2021, 04:55:44 PM

Quote from: Melan on March 09, 2021, 03:26:42 PM
The only thing I am curious about is how long will it take to publicly and openly rehabilitate Lorraine Williams. After all, she was just before her time.

You know it will happen.

This is how long. 

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The irony is that there was a book series that put a large helping of blame on Williams's head over TSR's fate. That series, Designers & Dragons, was written by... Shannon Appelcline.

You know. The person who fucking owns TBP.

TBP?

Quote from: dkabq on December 21, 2021, 06:04:36 AM

Quote from: Ghostmaker on December 20, 2021, 08:30:12 PM

Quote from: Melan on December 20, 2021, 04:55:44 PM

Quote from: Melan on March 09, 2021, 03:26:42 PM
The only thing I am curious about is how long will it take to publicly and openly rehabilitate Lorraine Williams. After all, she was just before her time.

You know it will happen.

This is how long. 

(image snipped)

The irony is that there was a book series that put a large helping of blame on Williams's head over TSR's fate. That series, Designers & Dragons, was written by... Shannon Appelcline.

You know. The person who fucking owns TBP.

TBP?

RPGnet. TBP = The Big Purple (a reference to their color scheme)

Quote from: DoctorGlocktor on December 20, 2021, 09:12:32 PM

Quote from: Ghostmaker on March 08, 2021, 08:34:43 AM
You would think after Price got the heave-ho from Paizo, WotC might be just the teensiest bit hesitant to hire her on.

Heh. Shows what I know, I guess.

The issue is WotC has already been infiltrated by SJWs much like Marvel, DC and many other cultural icons, so they keep hiring other wokeies no matter their former sins. The good news is this means all these companies are slowly dying and will hopefully be purchased by true fans and remade from the ashes.

No they won't. Warner and Disney will hold onto the trademarks forever and the copyrights as long as possible because that's what corporations do. The same for Hasbro and D&D. At best they will license the rights to a third party for limited periods of time (just as Disney does now for its Star Wars and Marvel toys and video games and other merchandise).

And if you DO manage to license it and actually make something profitable from it, the corporation will just keep raising the rates on the license with every renewal until you can no longer make money on it and have to trash your entire product line and if you're lucky, hastily release some generic setting alternative using the same game mechanics as your licensed system and pray your fans like the system enough to buy that without the IP to back it up.

No. You are ALWAYS going to be better off creating your own original works so you own the IP outright and no corporate shmuck can take it from you on a whim (or using things that have entered the public domain).

You don't need Superman to tell stories about an invulnerable flying brick superhero. You don't need Batman to tell stories about being a masked vigilante in a corrupt city. Heroes who build their own power armor aren't unique to Iron Man. D&D is not the end all and be all of fantasy genre roleplaying (in fact I'd argue D&D is almost its own self-referencial genre which happens to share some features with the fantasy genre).

If writing my own non-OGL game system and setting has taught me anything it's that latching onto and using D&D's lore via the OGL is astonishingly limiting. You are so much better served by actually going back to the original myths and to broader fantasy tropes than D&D has ever embraced as your sources of inspiration for a setting than reusing their tired offal. Having to build from the real origins forces you to really think about how your setting fits together in ways that just grabbing the SRD flavor text and assumptions will never provide.

Quote from: Jaeger on March 07, 2021, 08:37:14 PM

Quote from: RPGPundit on March 04, 2021, 12:30:07 AM
This week there's been a series of scandals that has seen ttrpg SJWs vigorously cancelling their own. So why is Jessica Price untouchable in spite of having sold out to Wizards of the Coast?

I think that there are actually 2 questions in this situation:

1: Why haven't the SJW's turned on her?

2: Why The Fuck did WOTC hire Her?

Quote from: Charon's Little Helper on March 05, 2021, 12:20:05 AM
In the far lefty opinion, she isn't working for WoTC, she infiltrated it. ...

This!

As much as the SJW's do not like D&D – they cannot fully destroy D&D until they are in charge of it.

1: They havent yet turned on her because thats not how it works usually with this cult. Shes still "one of them" and may still be even when she turns on them before they retaliate.

2: See below for that answer.

3: Thing is. WOTC was taken over by the 90s version of the woke cult way back in the late 90s. But as usual the next iteration turns on them then infiltrates and takes over with their newer better woke cult.

x: And the next iteration in 2030 will do the same to them.

Quote from: Chris24601 on December 21, 2021, 07:03:45 AM
No they won't. Warner and Disney will hold onto the trademarks forever and the copyrights as long as possible because that's what corporations do. The same for Hasbro and D&D. At best they will license the rights to a third party for limited periods of time (just as Disney does now for its Star Wars and Marvel toys and video games and other merchandise).

Oh there is option number 3:
The sell it off to a more dystopian company which will do even more dystopian things with it.

I kinda like The Last Jedi for this reason. Its so unabashedly shit and anti-viewer, that it kinda say that 'Star Wars is dead. Stop crying over its corpse. Move on'.

Quote from: Ghostmaker on December 20, 2021, 08:30:12 PM

Quote from: Melan on December 20, 2021, 04:55:44 PM

Quote from: Melan on March 09, 2021, 03:26:42 PM
The only thing I am curious about is how long will it take to publicly and openly rehabilitate Lorraine Williams. After all, she was just before her time.

You know it will happen.

This is how long. 

(image snipped)

The irony is that there was a book series that put a large helping of blame on Williams's head over TSR's fate. That series, Designers & Dragons, was written by... Shannon Appelcline.

You know. The person who fucking owns TBP.

The mods of RPG.net are moral cowards. They should demand that Applecline publicly apologize for his probably-accurate research that blames someone other than a white male, and burn every copy of his books that he can, and donate a value equal to double any profits his books made to a list of approved communist terror groups, and if he refuses to comply with any of their demands, they should permaban him from the website he owns!

Quote from: DoctorGlocktor on December 20, 2021, 09:10:33 PM

Quote from: thedungeondelver on March 08, 2021, 03:45:40 PM

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Mike Mearls has done some legit, innovative shit in gaming.

Mike Mearls called me, and every other gun owner, agents of ISIS.  Not compared, not made a simile.  Fuck him and the horse he rode in on.  And fuck all of WotC for hiring a bunch of woke moral busybodies. 

D&D should've died in 1984.

My hope is in 5-10 years DnD will be so devalued I can buy the IP then hire a few people like Pubdit and Professor Dungeon Master to make the next real edition of DnD sans wokeism

I don't think you'll be able to buy D&D ever, I don't believe Hasbro will sell it. However, you might be able to buy the LICENSE for it. Which would regardless be cheaper than buying it outright.

And of course, if someone redpilled were ever to somehow get control over D&D, I would gladly work at making a proper edition.

QuoteThe issue is WotC has already been infiltrated by SJWs much like Marvel, DC and many other cultural icons, so they keep hiring other wokeies no matter their former sins. The good news is this means all these companies are slowly dying and will hopefully be purchased by true fans and remade from the ashes.

No it won't.
Marvel is getting sweet sweet deal with Disney working well.
Generally woke crowd of big Western cities make for good clients.

Quote from: DoctorGlocktor on December 22, 2021, 08:22:32 PM
No it won't.
Marvel is getting sweet sweet deal with Disney working well.
Generally woke crowd of big Western cities make for good clients.

The comic side is subsidized by movies/disney. If the movies didnt catch on Marvel comics would be bankrupt eight right now. And honestly they wont go much longer with trying to push Kamalah Kahn and America Chavez instead of characters people like.

Quote from: DoctorGlocktor on December 20, 2021, 09:10:33 PM

Quote from: thedungeondelver on March 08, 2021, 03:45:40 PM

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Mike Mearls has done some legit, innovative shit in gaming.

Mike Mearls called me, and every other gun owner, agents of ISIS.  Not compared, not made a simile.  Fuck him and the horse he rode in on.  And fuck all of WotC for hiring a bunch of woke moral busybodies. 

D&D should've died in 1984.

My hope is in 5-10 years DnD will be so devalued I can buy the IP then hire a few people like Pubdit and Professor Dungeon Master to make the next real edition of DnD sans wokeism

Well, you have a well developed fantasy life.

Quote from: DoctorGlocktor on December 22, 2021, 08:22:32 PM

Quote from: DoctorGlocktor on December 22, 2021, 08:22:32 PM
No it won't.
Marvel is getting sweet sweet deal with Disney working well.
Generally woke crowd of big Western cities make for good clients.

The comic side is subsidized by movies/disney. If the movies didnt catch on Marvel comics would be bankrupt eight right now. And honestly they wont go much longer with trying to push Kamalah Kahn and America Chavez instead of characters people like.

Uh, Marvel DID go bankrupt. Well before politics entered into the picture. The pulled out of it...because of the sale of movie IP to Sony and then their own movies. Again, all before politics entered into it. You're putting the cart before the horse. Comic sales declined HUGE in the 1990s and never recovered. Again, having nothing to do with politics and everything to do with printing costs and prices and an aging readership and distribution issues.

Marvels sales now are not appreciably worse than the were before people started accusing them of being driven by politics. They changed to attract a younger crowd not because of the politics, but because the younger crowd is much more willing to buy digital comics than the older crowd, and the costs and distribution issues of the industry demand they move in the direction of digital rapidly.

And their primary competition is Japanese comics (which are just as politically driven) and Scholastic kids comics. Two industries that simply were not nearly so dominate decades ago when you were actually into comics.

But you keep on believing your narrative.

QuoteThe comic side is subsidized by movies/disney. If the movies didnt catch on Marvel comics would be bankrupt eight right now. And honestly they wont go much longer with trying to push Kamalah Kahn and America Chavez instead of characters people like.

The thing is vast majority of MCU fans are not comic book watchers, so whatever readers thought about Kamala Khan won't matter unless she fuck up her own TV-series. But I agree comics are in this whole new construct are afterthought.

Quote from: RPGPundit on December 21, 2021, 04:50:59 PM
I don't think you'll be able to buy D&D ever, I don't believe Hasbro will sell it. However, you might be able to buy the LICENSE for it. Which would regardless be cheaper than buying it outright.

And of course, if someone redpilled were ever to somehow get control over D&D, I would gladly work at making a proper edition.

Hasbro has sold off IPs before. Usually ones they have either a tenuous claim on, or ones that for whatever reason just dont interest them.

The only way I see them selling off D&D would be if WOTC pulled another 4e then takes a beating in sales, and this time does not pull off a miracle and save themselves.