Quote from: GIMME SOME SUGAR;1094647Do you guys have transgenders in your rpg groups? It seems the rpg industry is full of them these days and I got quite alot of shit from such people on the Swedish forum. Don't get me wrong, but has it become trendy to become a transgender rpg nerd these days? I have noticed that quite a few of them have risen through the ranks and now get to be a part of the production of new rpgs, as scenario writers and such. They have quickly become people of great influence. Much of it is because they are transgenders in my book. But I could be wrong, of course. I'm just an old bald bigot.

The rpg hobby/industry does not have a high threshold for participation. You don't Have to put in 20 years waiting for a promotion before you get the chance to be a "big name". You can just make shit and write shit and if people think it's good, rock and roll. There's like one transgendered rpg writer in Sweden who has had a recent meteoric rise, but she puts in the work too, writing scenarios for various publishers, running scenarios at conventions, holding panels at conventions etc. You want to meet the movers and shakers of the rpg hobby in Sweden? Go to GothCon, they'll pretty much all be there. Network a bit, show off your stuff, and if it is any good, something could happen really fast.

Quote from: jeff37923;1094784So once again I have to ask, if this place is so full of the most deplorable people in gaming on the internet then why in the fuck are you here?

Don't you know it is so they can fulfill the monthly SJW purity test. As well as showing to the same SJWs how much of a so very brave courageous martyr they are for coming here. After they are forced to come here right. By what force or person no one knows. I just don't get coming back over and over to place one hates so much.

As for transgender people and gaming. I think they are still a minority. A very vocal one yet going by my games. I have had a few female and gay gamers. ( some at first in then out of the closet so to speak. No transgender ever since I began in the mid 1980s in the hobby. Granted so may have transitioned between now and then I do not know about it.

As common as some in the hobby with the current narrative of it being a large amount I don't think so though could be wrong on that account.

Quote from: jeff37923;1094784So once again I have to ask, if this place is so full of the most deplorable people in gaming on the internet then why in the fuck are you here?

Don't you know it is so they can fulfill the monthly SJW purity test. As well as showing to the same SJWs how much of a so very brave courageous martyr they are for coming here. After they are forced to come here right. By what force or person no one knows. I just don't get coming back over and over to place one hates so much.

As for transgender people and gaming. I think they are still a minority. A very vocal one yet going by my games. I have had a few female and gay gamers. ( some at first in then out of the closet so to speak. No transgender ever since I began in the mid 1980s in the hobby. Granted so may have transitioned between now and then I do not know about it.

As common as some in the hobby with the current narrative of it being a large amount I don't think so though could be wrong on that account.

Quote from: jeff37923;1094784So once again I have to ask, if this place is so full of the most deplorable people in gaming on the internet then why in the fuck are you here?

Because we're THE free speech game forum. As other forums purge their deplorables, where else shall the white knights come to do glorious battle for the revolution?

And rawma is 1000% welcome as a member and poster. We don't need to agree on anything, except the right to express our disagreement.

I welcome all the SJWs to post more. I have no interest in theRPGsite becoming an echo chamber.

Because I love chew toys.

Quote from: Spinachcat;1094761Let's not forget 5 Stone Ages preached ASIAN genetic supremacy.

And I still disagree with his banning. So what if the guy had ideas many of us disagree with? You don't change anyone's mind by banning them.

Plus banning 5 Stone Ages will never "cleanse" the reputation of this site to the SJW clowns. We gained no "virtue" by his banning.

His banning represents only failure. Free speech means defending speech we don't agree with.

So I take it you agree that jeff37923 was wrong, if not dishonest? The site does not quickly ban racists.

At this point, I think any banning for racism would be because RPGPundit thinks it's posted to make his site look bad, whether it's an honestly held opinion or not. And he's probably right to do so.

Quote from: jeff37923;1094784So once again I have to ask, if this place is so full of the most deplorable people in gaming on the internet then why in the fuck are you here?

What, no defense of your erroneous assertions about theRPGsite's response to racists?

I started lurking at the end of the 5e D&D playtest and posting after the PHB was released but before the other core books (when some posters here had seen early copies). This site is capable of good discussion of gaming (even jeff37923) when it's not obsessing over that other RPG website or stupid political crap (you do realize that the fate or survival of the RPG hobby, no matter how dire, says nothing about the fate or survival of civilization?). One of the moderators (before they all quit) expressed disappointment that posters did not step up to dispute false information posted, and I am happy to contribute in my small way to the campaign to avoid being an echo chamber.

But if you don't like my posts, you can take another 36 hour vacation. Free speech for the win no matter what you decide.

Prepared my previous response before I saw this.

Quote from: Spinachcat;1094814And rawma is 1000% welcome as a member and poster. We don't need to agree on anything, except the right to express our disagreement.

This probably means I can expect to be banned by my fifth anniversary here, if only because Spinachcat is so often wrong.

Quote from: rawma;1094821So I take it you agree that jeff37923 was wrong, if not dishonest? The site does not quickly ban racists.

How long was it between 5 Stone Games talking about race IQ theory and his banning?

I honestly don't know. If it was months or years, then he was not banned quickly and Jeff would be wrong. And as punishment, we should cook and eat Jeff while dancing to Abba.

However, I disagree with banning ANYONE for their views. Posters who actually disrupt the site are the only ones who should be banned. And someone's views (regardless how "wrong") don't disrupt the site.

Quote from: rawma;1094821At this point, I think any banning for racism would be because RPGPundit thinks it's posted to make his site look bad, whether it's an honestly held opinion or not. And he's probably right to do so.

Look bad to who? People who don't support free speech? Fuck those clowns with a cactus.

This kind of banning is a point where RPGPundit and I disagree, but he's paying for this site so it's his rules, but I believe banning anyone for speech is utterly wrong for a free speech site.

To me, free speech demands we must defend the right to the worst speech to be expressed freely.

It's no fun to defend the free speech of people we disagree with, but that's how we all get to speak freely.

Quote from: rawma;1094824This probably means I can expect to be banned by my fifth anniversary here, if only because Spinachcat is so often wrong.

LOL. That's so cute!

You live in a bizarro world of delusion, how would you possibly even know right from wrong?

The very concepts of right and wrong are anathema to your SJW Kool-Aid brigade.

Quote from: Spinachcat;1094827You live in a bizarro world of delusion, how would you possibly even know right from wrong?

The very concepts of right and wrong are anathema to your SJW Kool-Aid brigade.

Wrong again.

I love it when my chew toys squeak!!!

Quote from: S'mon;1094509It's ok for white dudes to play DnD.

Never said it wasn't. Just asserted that, welcoming or not, decades ago, it seemed a white guy's hobby. It's also okay for others to play, as well. However, I do think it's hard to assert "well, everyone was always welcome" without ignoring the demographics. The presence of change there, diversity-wise, implies a more, um, monolithic population at one time. In the big scheme of things, social progress in gaming is small potatoes. I think, though, we can agree that, whether it was white guys mainly or not, if you were a gamer decades ago, and you tried to explain what it was, non-gaming folks thought you were a bit strange. Today? Not so much. Or rather, as much? That seems to me what this is all about. Gamers were seen as weird folk. Now, weirdness is okay. Hell, is there such a thing as weird these days?

Quote from: rawma;1094821So I take it you agree that jeff37923 was wrong, if not dishonest? The site does not quickly ban racists.

Your question assumes that there are (or were) racists on the site. It's a "have you stopped beating your wife" trap. Perhaps if you gave examples of these not-quickly-banned racist posts?

To answer your original question, Fearsome Pirate was banned immediately after posting an image with a swatstika, even though it was done in jest. Biscuit-brain was banned shortly after using the N-word, but he wasn't using it in a racist manner, and wasn't banned for that reason.

In 2016 and 2017 there were a few posters who claimed the site was a haven for racists and sexists. I would challenge each one to provide evidence, and they all failed. They probably heard it on TBP and assumed must be true; the NPCs never question The Narrative.  But you're a regular here, so you don't suffer from that delusion.

Quote from: cranebump;1094832Never said it wasn't. Just asserted that, welcoming or not, decades ago, it seemed a white guy's hobby. It's also okay for others to play, as well. However, I do think it's hard to assert "well, everyone was always welcome" without ignoring the demographics. The presence of change there, diversity-wise, implies a more, um, monolithic population at one time. In the big scheme of things, social progress in gaming is small potatoes. I think, though, we can agree that, whether it was white guys mainly or not, if you were a gamer decades ago, and you tried to explain what it was, non-gaming folks thought you were a bit strange. Today? Not so much. Or rather, as much? That seems to me what this is all about. Gamers were seen as weird folk. Now, weirdness is okay. Hell, is there such a thing as weird these days?

The thing that annoys me with people that claim that Roleplaying is some kind of white mans hobby is the underlying assumption that it is all rose petals and rainbows just because you are a white male.  I dont know if they are deliberately being ignorant or honestly just need to get a clue.

Quote from: cranebump;1094832f you were a gamer decades ago, and you tried to explain what it was, non-gaming folks thought you were a bit strange.

I never had a problem explaining RPGs to others of my age. Parents of friends? Yeah, they were mostly clueless.

Most kids were curious about WTF we were doing. Dice? Books? Figs? Maps? The big problem was the idea of giant fucking books of rules. THAT was the scary nerdzone, but when somebody said "Can I play without reading the books?", I learned to say "Hell yeah! Come and play!"

I blame the US education system for making reading books and math scary to people. It's bizarre.

In college, getting non-gamer girls into LARPs was stupid easy. It's a dress up party with a mystery and here's your character! Go! Oh, and its totally cool to have sex with the other LARPers...

It's why I still boil down RPGing to this:
1) The GM describes the current situation happening in the game.
2) You tell the GM what your character wants to do.
3) The GM tells you to roll some weird dice.
4) You roll the weird dice.
5) The GM describes what happens.
6) Go to 1.

Quote from: cranebump;1094832I do think it's hard to assert "well, everyone was always welcome" without ignoring the demographics.

I guess ignoring "demographics", which apparently equates to "skin color", is easier for some than others. And for some reason it's always white people that are singled out. Every time. Nobody pontificates about having to ignore basketball's "demographics", but gaming is badwhitefun.