As if anyone needed confirmation that SJG is woke as fuck they hired a misandrist filled to the brim with hate for her own race.
I don't even need to watch the video, her face and expression tells me everything she believes on every topic.
Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 14, 2023, 05:14:17 PM
As if anyone needed confirmation that SJG is woke as fuck they hired a misandrist filled to the brim with hate for her own race.
I'll bet big money that we read about their bankruptcy in about 18 months at best.
Quote from: BadApple on August 14, 2023, 05:17:21 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 14, 2023, 05:14:17 PM
As if anyone needed confirmation that SJG is woke as fuck they hired a misandrist filled to the brim with hate for her own race.
I'll bet big money that we read about their bankruptcy in about 18 months at best.
I'll bet we'll read about how she was sexualy harrased by the air conditioner or something.
Quote from: Grognard GM on August 14, 2023, 05:17:02 PM
I don't even need to watch the video, her face and expression tells me everything she believes on every topic.
Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son.
Quote from: Brad on August 14, 2023, 05:44:49 PM
Quote from: Grognard GM on August 14, 2023, 05:17:02 PM
I don't even need to watch the video, her face and expression tells me everything she believes on every topic.
Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son.
Did your parents have any children that lived?
This was my favorite game company. I walked away from this burning hot mess a year ago, and though I miss it sometimes, I know I made the right decision.
Quote from: Brad on August 14, 2023, 05:44:49 PM
Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son.
Hey don't hate. I've made it this far haven't I? :P
Maybe it's time to go back to work on my alternative universal 3d6 roll under game.
Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 14, 2023, 05:14:17 PM
As if anyone needed confirmation that SJG is woke as fuck they hired a misandrist filled to the brim with hate for her own race.
They deserve eachother.
But hey. Maybe she will do well and get things rolling. Cant do any worse that sjg has been.
Quote from: Cathode Ray on August 14, 2023, 08:07:45 PM
This was my favorite game company. I walked away from this burning hot mess a year ago, and though I miss it sometimes, I know I made the right decision.
sjg lost it long ago. Its was just infrequent incidents at first. Then the internet spying and bully tactics started round 2010 and here we are today.
What happened to 'Kromm'? Sean Punch?
most of the GURPS books that I need to run my games I already have.
What is great about 'GURPS" when compared to Dumb & Drag is that it has not changed editions since 2004.
-Ed C.
Let's not forget that she actively hates, HATES, white men for literally existing.
After I found that SJG went all in on BLM/AntiFa backing I stopped buying their products. This confirms my decision was Stunning and Brave as why should I support a company that hates their clients based on the color of their skin?
Quote from: THE_Leopold on August 15, 2023, 10:28:52 AM
Let's not forget that she actively hates, HATES, white men for literally existing.
After I found that SJG went all in on BLM/AntiFa backing I stopped buying their products. This confirms my decision was Stunning and Brave as why should I support a company that hates their clients based on the color of their skin?
Racism is terrible unless it is directed at white men, then it is celebrated. Bottom line, many people are stupid and easily programmed by their overlords.
Quote from: David Johansen on August 14, 2023, 11:33:58 PM
Maybe it's time to go back to work on my alternative universal 3d6 roll under game.
I would support that! as an alternate to The Fantasy Trip. Actually, Dark City Games has their own 3d6 alternative, and I think the basic rules, similar to *Melee* and *Wizard*, are available free. If not, they come with every module, and those modules can be played easily with TFT rules and vice versa.
I began designing a 2d12 roll under system for fantasy, which plays a lot like 3d6.
Quote from: THE_Leopold on August 15, 2023, 10:28:52 AM
Let's not forget that she actively hates, HATES, white men for literally existing.
It's bizarre to me that a company owner would hire someone that actively hates 99% of their customer base.
Quote from: Cathode Ray on August 15, 2023, 11:40:17 AM
Quote from: David Johansen on August 14, 2023, 11:33:58 PM
Maybe it's time to go back to work on my alternative universal 3d6 roll under game.
I would support that! as an alternate to The Fantasy Trip.
Probably closer to an alternate to GURPS. Every time I've started out on that journey, I've come to the conclusion that the usefulness of GURPS is in its standardized descriptive language. The problem then is that you can't just rename everything and fiddle with the arrangement a bit.
I did do a Tunnels and Trolls alternative last year that you might like: http://www.uncouthsavage.com/uploads/1/3/3/2/133279619/afgfmt.pdf
Quote from: Dracones on August 15, 2023, 11:46:06 AM
Quote from: THE_Leopold on August 15, 2023, 10:28:52 AM
Let's not forget that she actively hates, HATES, white men for literally existing.
It's bizarre to me that a company owner would hire someone that actively hates 99% of their customer base.
Wizards of the Coast has an entire department dedicated to it.
Quote from: Dracones on August 15, 2023, 11:46:06 AM
Quote from: THE_Leopold on August 15, 2023, 10:28:52 AM
Let's not forget that she actively hates, HATES, white men for literally existing.
It's bizarre to me that a company owner would hire someone that actively hates 99% of their customer base.
It all becomes clear when you realize that they're marketing to ESG, and not players.
No wonder, the people who harassed me throughout the past 7 years were avid GURPS players. Honestly feel great pity for the conditions the hobby finds itself in.
I saw the announcement on SJGames website and it doesn't say much about what she will be doing or if she is replacing anyone. Contrary to most of this here website, I like GURPS. (And it is quite funny that in my various attempts to make one game or the other more to my taste, I often ended up going the GURPS way until I would realise I should just play GURPS. It just clicks with me.) But it is like Koltar said, probably all GURPS books one needs were already published. Sean Punch being the entire GURPS team at SJG for the last 20 years, fighting to get a few more sourcebooks out, was just sad. Now Steve Jackson should just retire to San Francisco and let the company die.
Edit: I said SJG when I wanted to say Steve Jackson.
Quote from: FelixGamingX1 on August 15, 2023, 08:00:38 PM
No wonder, the people who harassed me throughout the past 7 years were avid GURPS players. Honestly feel great pity for the conditions the hobby finds itself in.
I imagine that generic systems would attract wokists, as they aren't real roleplayers, and thus want to learn one system then never do anything else.
But having said that, 5e and Powered By The Apocalypse are the prime examples of learn-it-then-nothing-else, with all their shit-tier no-effort 3rd party adventure and setting books.
Quote from: Grognard GM on August 15, 2023, 09:43:06 PM
I imagine that generic systems would attract wokists, as they aren't real roleplayers, and thus want to learn one system.....
I
LOVE GM-ing and playing
'GURPS' - and I am in no way "woke".
Its best not to assume somedthing about a whole group of p[eople,...or gamers.
Hell just 5 to 6 years ago I saw people assuming that fans of SJG and
GURPS were all extremist Libertarians or conservative right-wingers...
-Ed C.
Quote from: Dracones on August 15, 2023, 11:46:06 AM
Quote from: THE_Leopold on August 15, 2023, 10:28:52 AM
Let's not forget that she actively hates, HATES, white men for literally existing.
It's bizarre to me that a company owner would hire someone that actively hates 99% of their customer base.
Obviously they plan to fix that with GIRLPS: Pronouns.
Quote from: FelixGamingX1 on August 15, 2023, 08:00:38 PM
No wonder, the people who harassed me throughout the past 7 years were avid GURPS players. Honestly feel great pity for the conditions the hobby finds itself in.
On the rough streets of Rpgtown, the GURPShead gangs harrassed and bullied the poor, weak, insipid D&D players relentlessly.
Quote from: David Johansen on August 16, 2023, 12:31:58 AM
Quote from: FelixGamingX1 on August 15, 2023, 08:00:38 PM
No wonder, the people who harassed me throughout the past 7 years were avid GURPS players. Honestly feel great pity for the conditions the hobby finds itself in.
On the rough streets of Rpgtown, the GURPShead gangs harrassed and bullied the poor, weak, insipid D&D players relentlessly.
Yeah theres been this recurring undercurrent with gurps for a long long time with some fans being really unpleasant. But nothing compared to the psychopathic fans of 4e D&D.
Quote from: David Johansen on August 15, 2023, 02:44:38 PM
Probably closer to an alternate to GURPS. Every time I've started out on that journey, I've come to the conclusion that the usefulness of GURPS is in its standardized descriptive language. The problem then is that you can't just rename everything and fiddle with the arrangement a bit.
Can you explain more about why? I've been working on an Alt-Gurps project, and I've encountered some problems as well. Mostly features I don't like. Deleting stuff is relatively easy.
Quote from: Koltar on August 15, 2023, 11:44:19 PM
Quote from: Grognard GM on August 15, 2023, 09:43:06 PM
I imagine that generic systems would attract wokists, as they aren't real roleplayers, and thus want to learn one system.....
I LOVE GM-ing and playing 'GURPS' - and I am in no way "woke".
Its best not to assume somedthing about a whole group of p[eople,...or gamers.
Hell just 5 to 6 years ago I saw people assuming that fans of SJG and GURPS were all extremist Libertarians or conservative right-wingers...
-Ed C.
If I say Punk attracted neo-Nazi skinheads, I am not saying everyone, nor even the majority of Punks were skinheads. Likewise generic systems could attract wokists while 90% of the fanbase are cool dudes.
Take a chill pill.
Quote from: David Johansen on August 16, 2023, 12:31:58 AM
Quote from: FelixGamingX1 on August 15, 2023, 08:00:38 PM
No wonder, the people who harassed me throughout the past 7 years were avid GURPS players. Honestly feel great pity for the conditions the hobby finds itself in.
On the rough streets of Rpgtown, the GURPShead gangs harrassed and bullied the poor, weak, insipid D&D players relentlessly.
5e player getting head stomped in: "Micro aggression! I'm literally shaking, I can't even..."
Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 14, 2023, 05:14:17 PM
As if anyone needed confirmation that SJG is woke as fuck they hired a misandrist filled to the brim with hate for her own race.
I made it to the point where she jokes about men skinning themselves in "honor" of International Women's Day, and clicked off.
Imagine a dude saying that kind of shit about women. We're rightly think he's a candidate for being a serial killer.
Ah well, I guess Steve Jackson is cool with it.
Watched the vid a few days ago.
Why would you hire someone who is so obnoxious on twitter?? How does that do anything for your company?
Mind you, on the plus side, SJG is pretty much dead and has been riding off their back catalog of material for years. So it's no big loss.
I stopped caring about GURPS a long time ago. I like the system well enough but without good adventure support it is too much of a hassle to prep games. Many of the historical books are top notch and have useful things for other games but the system....too heavy for quick game prep.
Never played GURPS, but I do have some of the books because they're good background material (especially GURPS Conan)
I was more of a Car Wars fan back in the day.
Oh well...Go woke, go broke.
Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on August 16, 2023, 06:52:26 AM
Watched the vid a few days ago.
Why would you hire someone who is so obnoxious on twitter?? How does that do anything for your company?
Mind you, on the plus side, SJG is pretty much dead and has been riding off their back catalog of material for years. So it's no big loss.
Just occurred to me that it could be an outrage marketing ploy.
A publicity gag to draw attention to the company. And you can bet that all the uproar is getting eyes and probably $$$ on sjg product.
Quote from: Omega on August 16, 2023, 07:29:27 PM
Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on August 16, 2023, 06:52:26 AM
Watched the vid a few days ago.
Why would you hire someone who is so obnoxious on twitter?? How does that do anything for your company?
Mind you, on the plus side, SJG is pretty much dead and has been riding off their back catalog of material for years. So it's no big loss.
Just occurred to me that it could be an outrage marketing ploy.
A publicity gag to draw attention to the company. And you can bet that all the uproar is getting eyes and probably $$$ on sjg product.
Hate clicks only give you short term engagements but your reputation suffers in the long run (see disney, marvel, kotaku,etc). Its a shit move and only idiots play that game
Quote from: Omega on August 16, 2023, 07:29:27 PM
Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on August 16, 2023, 06:52:26 AM
Watched the vid a few days ago.
Why would you hire someone who is so obnoxious on twitter?? How does that do anything for your company?
Mind you, on the plus side, SJG is pretty much dead and has been riding off their back catalog of material for years. So it's no big loss.
Just occurred to me that it could be an outrage marketing ploy.
A publicity gag to draw attention to the company. And you can bet that all the uproar is getting eyes and probably $$$ on sjg product.
If only it was! I'd respect them for that type of grift. ;D
Sadly, rather than engaging in shock marketing strategies, Steve Jackson is just an exhausted elderly man whose attempts at being current are stuck 5-10 years in the past, at best.
I just assume by default that employees of these corporations are all anti-White, anti-Male, anti-God freaks.
Quote from: Zelen on August 16, 2023, 08:51:50 PM
I just assume by default that employees of these corporations are all anti-White, anti-Male, anti-God freaks.
SJG is a small business, not a corporation.
It's Steve Jackson's baby which he's run for 40 years.
It used to be staffed by old-school geeks that you would expect to be putting out such stuff, basically stuck in the 1980s (not that that is a bad thing).
Steve himself has gone woke, basically broken by the pandemic, Trump derangement syndrome, and being old. So his recent hires are all liberal women who are not and have never been gamers.
Quote from: Dracones on August 15, 2023, 11:46:06 AM
It's bizarre to me that a company owner would hire someone that actively hates 99% of their customer base.
"A drowning man will clutch at a straw."
Quote from: TheShadow on August 16, 2023, 09:04:37 PM
Quote from: Zelen on August 16, 2023, 08:51:50 PM
I just assume by default that employees of these corporations are all anti-White, anti-Male, anti-God freaks.
SJG is a small business, not a corporation.
It's Steve Jackson's baby which he's run for 40 years.
It used to be staffed by old-school geeks that you would expect to be putting out such stuff, basically stuck in the 1980s (not that that is a bad thing).
Steve himself has gone woke, basically broken by the pandemic, Trump derangement syndrome, and being old. So his recent hires are all liberal women who are not and have never been gamers.
Hiring unqualified people for a job will always produce poor results. I'm not understanding the logic behind it till this day, and why are so many mainstream companies torturing years old customers. My understanding is that you show a customer how much you appreciate them, not depreciated and deliberately bully them. Another question is why aren't these companies gone bankrupt already? It's been years!
Quote from: FelixGamingX1 on August 18, 2023, 06:52:42 AM
Quote from: TheShadow on August 16, 2023, 09:04:37 PM
Quote from: Zelen on August 16, 2023, 08:51:50 PM
I just assume by default that employees of these corporations are all anti-White, anti-Male, anti-God freaks.
SJG is a small business, not a corporation.
It's Steve Jackson's baby which he's run for 40 years.
It used to be staffed by old-school geeks that you would expect to be putting out such stuff, basically stuck in the 1980s (not that that is a bad thing).
Steve himself has gone woke, basically broken by the pandemic, Trump derangement syndrome, and being old. So his recent hires are all liberal women who are not and have never been gamers.
Hiring unqualified people for a job will always produce poor results. I'm not understanding the logic behind it till this day, and why are so many mainstream companies torturing years old customers. My understanding is that you show a customer how much you appreciate them, not depreciated and deliberately bully them. Another question is why aren't these companies gone bankrupt already? It's been years!
Thing is, even if she's good at her job, why the fuck would you hire someone who's just so noxious towards people? Imagine having that in the office...
"I hate white men"
"I hate white men"
"I hate white men"
"I hate white men"
"I hate white men"
"I hate white men"
"So...what do you know about being a line editor for TTRPGs and the like?"
"You have a penis! Fuck you!"
"Welp, (checks boxes on form) looks like you're perfect for the position; welcome aboard!"
"Burn in hell, breeder! And thank you!" - goes to take a shit in the corner before leaving
Adieu, SJG. Adieu. :'(