Quote from: Krimson;1028853I'm willing to bet there's at least two guys in Japan who are Robotekku Hipsters, preferring it to the more mainstream Macross. It would take some searching but I bet a Japanese dub of Robotech exists somewhere.

I hope so. It would be poetic.

Quote from: Krimson;1028853I'm willing to bet there's at least two guys in Japan who are Robotekku Hipsters, preferring it to the more mainstream Macross. It would take some searching but I bet a Japanese dub of Robotech exists somewhere.

I am almost certain this is true too.  There must be a small group insisting that Macek 'got' Macross better than the Japanese studios. The fan dubs must be glorious to behold.  Especially if the Japanese dubs could be dubbed back into English again.

1. I always liked Robotech WAY more than Macross. Maybe because in spite of the animation use and the strictures of having to follow the animation, there was something more western about Robotech.  I never liked any other big-robot anime series as much as Robotech. I definitely did not find the overall Macross setting or later sequels nearly as much.

2. As a series, Robotech is dead. Harmony Gold will never do anything, because they've never been capable of actually doing anything after the initial Robotech series.

I'm very sad that Palladium has lost the rights to Robotech, but I really don't think it's worth it for any other RPG company to get the rights.

I bought most of the Palladium run. It's good stuff, but let's not kid ourselves: the licence is not much of a draw these days. There was one generation that watched the show. It has never been expanded upon and therefore lacks the generational transcendence of something like Star Wars or Battletech.

I wonder if Sony is going to pull the trigger on the Robotech movie before 2021.

You might as well hold the funeral for the IP as a whole now. There is no way that Harmony Gold is going to get its shit together to salvage it before what rights they do have finally expire. You're better off making a proper RPG for the original components' series than for Robotech now, especially since Macross fandom is far more widespread (especially outside of North America).

Honestly, Robotech vs. Macross is pretty much just Flash Gordon vs. Buck Rogers, with a splash of 'is the original interpretation inherently better than what someone morphed it into?' along with a bit of 'legal shenanigans/who's the good guy' bitterness thrown in.

Both Robotech and Macross are ancient properties, as far as popular anime series go. There's nothing wrong with still loving one or the other, but I need a new TTRPG based on them like I need a new Star Trek: TNG or Firefly sci fi RPG. I'd much rather see a good general big fighting mecha RPG* that would work for both series, G-Force, Voltron, Battletech and maybe even Transformers .
*One that actually catches on.

Quote from: Willie the Duck;1029282Honestly, Robotech vs. Macross is pretty much just Flash Gordon vs. Buck Rogers, with a splash of 'is the original interpretation inherently better than what someone morphed it into?' along with a bit of 'legal shenanigans/who's the good guy' bitterness thrown in.

Both Robotech and Macross are ancient properties, as far as popular anime series go. There's nothing wrong with still loving one or the other, but I need a new TTRPG based on them like I need a new Star Trek: TNG or Firefly sci fi RPG. I'd much rather see a good general big fighting mecha RPG* that would work for both series, G-Force, Voltron, Battletech and maybe even Transformers .
*One that actually catches on.

The new Voltron is, IMO, a good take on an old franchise. Keeps the fun (sometimes a little too fun) and serious in good measure, updates without making it all GRIMDARK or ANTIHERO.

And a part of me wonders what a reverse Robotech would look like. Say if a Japanese TV company took Buck Rogers, Star Trek and Battlestar Galactica (all the 70's-80's series) and tried to make them all set in one universe. At least it would be interesting.

Quote from: Willie the Duck;1029282Both Robotech and Macross are ancient properties, as far as popular anime series go. There's nothing wrong with still loving one or the other, but I need a new TTRPG based on them like I need a new Star Trek: TNG or Firefly sci fi RPG. I'd much rather see a good general big fighting mecha RPG* that would work for both series, G-Force, Voltron, Battletech and maybe even Transformers .
*One that actually catches on.

I'd like to see something along the lines of Code Geass, with the Knightmare Frame and a near future feudal world with all the intrigue and family tension amongst the monarchy. Amusingly the Manga didn't have mechs (though in this case, the anime came first) but doing the opposite could work well, having mecha and scrapping the weird divine psychic powers.

Quote from: jeff37923;1028651If you want to tap into the next generation of gamers and increase your marketability, you'd use the name Macross. Robotech is really only known to older gamers and Palladium fans. The current, and I would bet next, generation of gamers is pretty anime savvy.

Negative Ghost Rider this property is old.

I love me some old-school japanese anime, but I believe if you want to tap into the next generation of gamers you would nab a license like Pacific Rim. Or Transformers (OK, scratch that, maybe that's been overdone now...). You need to tap something popular in current media.

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1029317The new Voltron is, IMO, a good take on an old franchise. Keeps the fun (sometimes a little too fun) and serious in good measure, updates without making it all GRIMDARK or ANTIHERO.

And a part of me wonders what a reverse Robotech would look like. Say if a Japanese TV company took Buck Rogers, Star Trek and Battlestar Galactica (all the 70's-80's series) and tried to make them all set in one universe. At least it would be interesting.

Does the new show still have the voice of optimus prime doing the intro?

Quote from: Ulairi;1029345Does the new show still have the voice of optimus prime doing the intro?

Nope.  No vocals during the intro.

Quote from: Celestial;1029348Nope.  No vocals during the intro.

That's sad. A big part of my childhood has that intro branded on my brain.

Quote from: trechriron;1029334Negative Ghost Rider this property is old.

I love me some old-school japanese anime, but I believe if you want to tap into the next generation of gamers you would nab a license like Pacific Rim. Or Transformers (OK, scratch that, maybe that's been overdone now...). You need to tap something popular in current media.

Macross Delta was TWO YEARS AGO.

Macross Frontier? 2007-2008. So TEN YEARS AGO.

Macross Zero? 2005. 13 years.

And that's just TV shows, OVA series, and related materials. Add in manga, light novels, radio plays, videogames, LIVE CONCERTS, and OSTs and it's rarely NOT part of the scene.

The only reason they didn't blow up in North America (as Macross Plus did) was Harmony Gold cockblocking all things Macross, much like they do to BattleTech, due to legal fuckery enabled by US courts and some creative legal interpretation. Despite that, the anime fandom in North America regards both of them well (to varying degrees; Delta isn't as loved as Frontier), so it's still a better deal to go with a Macross RPG than a Robotech RPG.

And remember, you're going to sell that shit WORLDWIDE now- especially if you somehow got a license to do it at all. (There is no way you won't; the license won't be issued otherwise.) Macross has global reach. Robotech does not. Macross is still adding to the franchise in multiple media; Robotech is not. People hold and attend massive concerts for Macross OSTs. Robotech? You're lucky to get a song at a shit con appearance.

Macross, like Gundam, is current. You're fucking retarded to the point of delusional to claim otherwise, so of course a RPG would find more purchase for Macross than Robotech now.

MACROSS: Frontier introduced the Strategic Military Services group.  That could be a pretty fun set up for a bunch of PCs.