Quote from: Omega on March 10, 2022, 10:17:04 AM

Quote from: Ghostmaker on March 08, 2022, 09:24:58 AM

Quote from: Cat the Bounty Smuggler on March 08, 2022, 01:08:43 AM
I'm reminded now of the time Jesse Singal straight-up called for the release of alleged "receipts" for an accusation against him, and got crickets.

On a side note, this is why making such accusations should draw legal action. Because yes, they are slanderous if you can't back them up.

Late to this. But problem is that for a good while now these sociopaths and even scum outside all this have been using calling for names of the accusers or witnesses as a tool to hunt these people down and harass them. I've seen a couple of scam artists use this tactic. And some will then try to threaten you into divulging names with thinly veiled threats of legal action.

You cannot have it both ways. Either a person has the right to challenge false claims, or they should just shut up and think of England.

Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 10, 2022, 10:53:19 AM
Oh lordy, for shit and giggles I clicked on Cocksuck Soyarmy posts because it seemed he finally provided the much vaunted "receipts"...

Such proof
Much wow

So, let me get this straight, a He/Him is really a They/Them because both wrote at sometime about playing as steepe nomads, one wanting an OSR game about it the other about writting a suplement for OSR games about it.

ZERO proof about the antisemitism, and someone says all he can find is pro Israel stuff on the He/Him account.

But we're suppossed to take Cocksuck Soyarmy's word for it.

"Someone" claims to have compared the voices, one would think with some state of the art software, but off course we're provided ZERO proof of their voices being the same.

But we're suppossed to take Cocksuck Soyarmy's word for it.

Does anyone here REALLY believe that the socjus cult wouldn't have archived said anti-semitic tweets? (As if they really cared, after all they ARE one and all deeply anti-semitic).

I seem to remember some accusations of transphobia too, from an account with pronouns in the bio...

And all this is predicated on the word of some anonymous sources and the fact that the He/Him account got deleted (is it still deleted?).

TL;DR - Cocksuck Soyarmy's sources: Trust me bro!

So, you're saying unless someone can, and does, provide screenshots about stuff that happened online, and the account or platform in question no longer exists, their claims are garbage?

Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 10, 2022, 10:53:19 AM
And all this is predicated on the word of some anonymous sources and the fact that the He/Him account got deleted (is it still deleted?).

It never got deleted, it got deactivated and past tweets were (almost) all deleted. It's now live again and has been discussing the war in Ukraine. FWIW, Taylor seems to have also deleted everything they posted before January, including the original steppe nomad post, but their replies to people about nomads can be found with a search. (Using Nitter because Twitter hates people who try to use it without an account.)

So far I'm not seeing a reason to care about whether Taylor is Black Cat or not. Are there legit anti-Semitic tweets? I can't rule it out but until they surface I have to be suspicious that they exist considering how pro-Israel the account is, and seems to have always been, and the fact that Black Cat at one point identified as Jewish. Again, not impossible, but it just contradicts everything I can see about the account.

Quote from: Tubesock Army on March 10, 2022, 12:13:41 PM
So, you're saying unless someone can, and does, provide screenshots about stuff that happened online, and the account or platform in question no longer exists, their claims are garbage?

See above.

Quote from: Tubesock Army on March 10, 2022, 12:13:41 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 10, 2022, 10:53:19 AM
Oh lordy, for shit and giggles I clicked on Cocksuck Soyarmy posts because it seemed he finally provided the much vaunted "receipts"...

Such proof
Much wow

So, let me get this straight, a He/Him is really a They/Them because both wrote at sometime about playing as steepe nomads, one wanting an OSR game about it the other about writting a suplement for OSR games about it.

ZERO proof about the antisemitism, and someone says all he can find is pro Israel stuff on the He/Him account.

But we're suppossed to take Cocksuck Soyarmy's word for it.

"Someone" claims to have compared the voices, one would think with some state of the art software, but off course we're provided ZERO proof of their voices being the same.

But we're suppossed to take Cocksuck Soyarmy's word for it.

Does anyone here REALLY believe that the socjus cult wouldn't have archived said anti-semitic tweets? (As if they really cared, after all they ARE one and all deeply anti-semitic).

I seem to remember some accusations of transphobia too, from an account with pronouns in the bio...

And all this is predicated on the word of some anonymous sources and the fact that the He/Him account got deleted (is it still deleted?).

TL;DR - Cocksuck Soyarmy's sources: Trust me bro!

So, you're saying unless someone can, and does, provide screenshots about stuff that happened online, and the account or platform in question no longer exists, their claims are garbage?

YES, that's exactly what I'm saying. Doubly so when the claims are from the type of people who have called me, a Maya, a white supremacist.

So, you're admiting you have exactly ZERO proof and we should trust your account of events... Fuck off.

Quote from: Cat the Bounty Smuggler on March 10, 2022, 12:19:23 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 10, 2022, 10:53:19 AM
And all this is predicated on the word of some anonymous sources and the fact that the He/Him account got deleted (is it still deleted?).

It never got deleted, it got deactivated and past tweets were (almost) all deleted. It's now live again and has been discussing the war in Ukraine. FWIW, Taylor seems to have also deleted everything they posted before January, including the original steppe nomad post, but their replies to people about nomads can be found with a search. (Using Nitter because Twitter hates people who try to use it without an account.)

So far I'm not seeing a reason to care about whether Taylor is Black Cat or not. Are there legit anti-Semitic tweets? I can't rule it out but until they surface I have to be suspicious that they exist considering how pro-Israel the account is, and seems to have always been. Again, not impossible, but it just contradicts everything I can see about the account.

Quote from: Tubesock Army on March 10, 2022, 12:13:41 PM
So, you're saying unless someone can, and does, provide screenshots about stuff that happened online, and the account or platform in question no longer exists, their claims are garbage?

See above.

Plus, according to Pundit, Taylor is a Jew... Kinda hard to trust the people who love to lie about everybody over Pundit's word.

Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 10, 2022, 12:22:55 PM

Quote from: Tubesock Army on March 10, 2022, 12:13:41 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 10, 2022, 10:53:19 AM
Oh lordy, for shit and giggles I clicked on Cocksuck Soyarmy posts because it seemed he finally provided the much vaunted "receipts"...

Such proof
Much wow

So, let me get this straight, a He/Him is really a They/Them because both wrote at sometime about playing as steepe nomads, one wanting an OSR game about it the other about writting a suplement for OSR games about it.

ZERO proof about the antisemitism, and someone says all he can find is pro Israel stuff on the He/Him account.

But we're suppossed to take Cocksuck Soyarmy's word for it.

"Someone" claims to have compared the voices, one would think with some state of the art software, but off course we're provided ZERO proof of their voices being the same.

But we're suppossed to take Cocksuck Soyarmy's word for it.

Does anyone here REALLY believe that the socjus cult wouldn't have archived said anti-semitic tweets? (As if they really cared, after all they ARE one and all deeply anti-semitic).

I seem to remember some accusations of transphobia too, from an account with pronouns in the bio...

And all this is predicated on the word of some anonymous sources and the fact that the He/Him account got deleted (is it still deleted?).

TL;DR - Cocksuck Soyarmy's sources: Trust me bro!

So, you're saying unless someone can, and does, provide screenshots about stuff that happened online, and the account or platform in question no longer exists, their claims are garbage?

YES, that's exactly what I'm saying. Doubly so when the claims are from the type of people who have called me, a Maya, a white supremacist.

So, you're admiting you have exactly ZERO proof and we should trust your account of events... Fuck off.

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KEK



KEK

There are some who remember Blackcat's shenanigans. Why this stuff didn't get archived, other than Blackcat being a relative nobody, I have no idea. This Finnish dude just happened to have some archived RPG Tweets, why I dunno. Here is a quote from someone who did not ask to be dragged into this mess (so I won't share their deets). Not a "smoking gun" of course, but it's at least as solid as StinkyBugle's "someone said they're pro-Israel" logic above.

The above quote is interesting, because "landback" is a term that also appears on the "new, improved (read: sanitized)" Blackcat profile ( https://twitter.com/BlckCatBlckSky/status/1501550591406972932 ). I admit that a lot of this is circumstantial, but it's still very strong, IMO. You are, of course, free to disagree. I would still note that Blackcat deleted a fuck ton of posts, including those that mention the Steppe Nomad rpg idea, and TL STILL hasn't denied being BC. But, hey, you do you.

And, I've said this before, but just because someone is Jewish/black/gay/whatever, that doesn't mean that they are incapable of racism, homophobia/anti-Semitism or anything else. That's like saying races are homogenous in their thinking, which is pretty damn racist. And I won't repeat it all, at the risk of derailing the conversation, but as I've proven before, it's an indisputable historical fact that POC, Jews, gays and other marginalized/oppressed people can, have and do sometimes aid or support extremist/racist/anti-Semitic causes or groups. I'll refer to my previous posts on the matter without reproducing or re-writing them here:

https://www.therpgsite.com/pen-paper-roleplaying-games-rpgs-discussion/jeff-bergen-of-the-gaming-goat-escorted-from-gencon/msg1189153/#msg1189153

It's a lot of nested quotes, but that should provide appropriate context for the remarks of myself and others. The whole "I/they can't be racist/homophobic/anti-Semitic because I/they are X" is the "B-but I have a black friend" of modern racist camouflage.

Quote from: Tubesock Army on March 10, 2022, 12:58:22 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 10, 2022, 12:22:55 PM

Quote from: Tubesock Army on March 10, 2022, 12:13:41 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 10, 2022, 10:53:19 AM
Oh lordy, for shit and giggles I clicked on Cocksuck Soyarmy posts because it seemed he finally provided the much vaunted "receipts"...

Such proof
Much wow

So, let me get this straight, a He/Him is really a They/Them because both wrote at sometime about playing as steepe nomads, one wanting an OSR game about it the other about writting a suplement for OSR games about it.

ZERO proof about the antisemitism, and someone says all he can find is pro Israel stuff on the He/Him account.

But we're suppossed to take Cocksuck Soyarmy's word for it.

"Someone" claims to have compared the voices, one would think with some state of the art software, but off course we're provided ZERO proof of their voices being the same.

But we're suppossed to take Cocksuck Soyarmy's word for it.

Does anyone here REALLY believe that the socjus cult wouldn't have archived said anti-semitic tweets? (As if they really cared, after all they ARE one and all deeply anti-semitic).

I seem to remember some accusations of transphobia too, from an account with pronouns in the bio...

And all this is predicated on the word of some anonymous sources and the fact that the He/Him account got deleted (is it still deleted?).

TL;DR - Cocksuck Soyarmy's sources: Trust me bro!

So, you're saying unless someone can, and does, provide screenshots about stuff that happened online, and the account or platform in question no longer exists, their claims are garbage?

YES, that's exactly what I'm saying. Doubly so when the claims are from the type of people who have called me, a Maya, a white supremacist.

So, you're admiting you have exactly ZERO proof and we should trust your account of events... Fuck off.

O I C



KEK



KEK

There are some who remember Blackcat's shenanigans. Why this stuff didn't get archived, other than Blackcat being a relative nobody, I have no idea. This Finnish dude just happened to have some archived RPG Tweets, why I dunno. Here is a quote from someone who did not ask to be dragged into this mess (so I won't share their deets). Not a "smoking gun" of course, but it's at least as solid as StinkyBugle's "someone said they're pro-Israel" logic above.

The above quote is interesting, because "landback" is a term that also appears on the "new, improved (read: sanitized)" Blackcat profile ( https://twitter.com/BlckCatBlckSky/status/1501550591406972932 ). I admit that a lot of this is circumstantial, but it's still very strong, IMO. You are, of course, free to disagree. I would still note that Blackcat deleted a fuck ton of posts, including those that mention the Steppe Nomad rpg idea, and TL STILL hasn't denied being BC. But, hey, you do you.

And, I've said this before, but just because someone is Jewish/black/gay/whatever, that doesn't mean that they are incapable of racism, homophobia/anti-Semitism or anything else. That's like saying races are homogenous in their thinking, which is pretty damn racist. And I won't repeat it all, at the risk of derailing the conversation, but as I've proven before, it's an indisputable historical fact that POC, Jews, gays and other marginalized/oppressed people can, have and do sometimes aid or support extremist/racist/anti-Semitic causes or groups. I'll refer to my previous posts on the matter without reproducing or re-writing them here:

https://www.therpgsite.com/pen-paper-roleplaying-games-rpgs-discussion/jeff-bergen-of-the-gaming-goat-escorted-from-gencon/msg1189153/#msg1189153

It's a lot of nested quotes, but that should provide appropriate context for the remarks of myself and others. The whole "I/they can't be racist/homophobic/anti-Semitic because I/they are X" is the "B-but I have a black friend" of modern racist camouflage.

Unrelated stuff trying to make an equivalence between Pundit (who doesn't have a history of lying about people) and the SJWs.

After that it's only "Trust me bro" ad nauseum.

And since NO ONE was arguing that someone can't be racist because he's X, AND this has shit to do with gaming you can shove it up your ass.

Since you have admited more than once that you don't have a shred of evidence then I'll repeat my self: Fuck off and Kiss my Mexican ass.

Keep moving those goalposts, bud.

Quote from: Tubesock Army on March 10, 2022, 01:32:25 PM
Keep moving those goalposts, bud.

Yep, I'm moving the goalposts of asking for proof that you fail to provide and then try to distract with unrelated shit while I keep on asking for the inexistent "receipts".

Much goalpost moving
such wow.

Quote from: Slambo on March 10, 2022, 09:40:25 AM

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Quote from: oggsmash on March 10, 2022, 08:53:51 AM
  I am really rusty on my deciphering super secret handshakes and dog whistles about racism and other hidden signs, but those tweets seem extremely tame.

Yes, because, as has been stated several times, the account was deleted, and the overwhelming majority of tweets are gone. Blackcat was infamous before anyone knew they were Taylor Lane. I posted the screenshots I did in order to demonstrate the similarity in the two accounts' oddly specific interest in a steppe nomad OSR game.

Infamous for what?

Steppe nomads I believe

Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 10, 2022, 01:51:43 PM

Quote from: Tubesock Army on March 10, 2022, 01:32:25 PM
Keep moving those goalposts, bud.

Yep, I'm moving the goalposts of asking for proof that you fail to provide and then try to distract with unrelated shit while I keep on asking for the inexistent "receipts".

Much goalpost moving
such wow.

First off, you absolutely DID imply that "if someone is X, they can't be a racist"...

Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 10, 2022, 12:22:55 PM
Doubly so when the claims are from the type of people who have called me, a Maya, a white supremacist.

Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 10, 2022, 12:24:47 PM
Plus, according to Pundit, Taylor is a Jew...

Second, you DID move the goalposts from "post proofs or gtfo" by adding "except when Pundit does it".

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Quote from: Slambo on March 10, 2022, 09:40:25 AM

Quote from: Tubesock Army on March 10, 2022, 09:14:20 AM

Quote from: oggsmash on March 10, 2022, 08:53:51 AM
  I am really rusty on my deciphering super secret handshakes and dog whistles about racism and other hidden signs, but those tweets seem extremely tame.

Yes, because, as has been stated several times, the account was deleted, and the overwhelming majority of tweets are gone. Blackcat was infamous before anyone knew they were Taylor Lane. I posted the screenshots I did in order to demonstrate the similarity in the two accounts' oddly specific interest in a steppe nomad OSR game.

Infamous for what?

Steppe nomads I believe

You know, if you have to lie to make your point, you probably don't have much of a point in the first place.

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Your the one tossing out allegations and hearsay on a person character. You lose the right to get pissy passive aggressive when your called to provide proof and or citations. Otherwise it never happened.

Sorry this ain't Rpg.net or other work forums. We don't simply trust you for being woke and kissing mod ass.

Who's getting pissy, I just said I find it credible. Lighten up, Francis.

So your just being a disingenuous bad faith troll then. Got it bye bye Francis.

It's funny how often the posters here claim some moral high ground in order to flounce. "You are arguing in bad faith, and to prove that I am arguing in good faith, I shall refuse to engage you any further! I said GOOD DAY, SIR!" That's easily how 75% of disagreements on this forum end up. You nerds really need to touch grass.

  Well, if they are talking to you, they probably do have moral high ground.  I mean in this thread you have reeled back an accusation twice (or maybe once if you dont know the definition of credible) after stating it as fact.  That is dishonest.  You know how moral high ground works right?

I'm not reeling back anything, dipshit. I believe that Taylor Lane is blackcat. That hasn't changed. You can believe whatever you like. Perhaps you think it's all a big coincidence that the blackcat account got nuked as soon as the allegation was made, or that Taylor hasn't denied it. The last bit tells me they know that someone has receipts. But like I said, you do you, I don't give a fuck.

  Except you have walked back your accusation, twice.  If you are now saying that was not your intent, ok.  It would be cool for the forum to have a big meet up, then we could all call one another names in person.  I think you would have a blast.

I don't know, I'd hate to tangle with a guy who makes threats on the internet lmao.

Also, it wasn't an "EssJayDub" who outed Taylor/blackcat. It was a friend of theirs.

The first person I saw making the claim was definitely a leftist SJW, who's claim to the assertion was just that "they sound like that person". That's it.  If you have anything predating that, or better proof, go right ahead. Post it.

KEK

Me and Daniel Khwan have both talked about making culturally authentic chinese settings. Does that mean we're the same person?

So the claim is based on two groups of posts, the first not given a year date curiously (how long ago was it??) where the two users talk about Steppe Nomads in RPG settings?

That's a clever trick by the way, pulling the blackcat posts with some foreign-language twitter that doesn't list the year, so it says '20 Dez', and then the taylor posts which were clearly January 2021, to create the impression both were writing at more or less the same time. But for all we know, those blackcat posts could have been 20 december 2009!

Are both Taylor and blackcat also Jim Bambra?

Quote from: Tubesock Army on March 09, 2022, 11:57:21 PM

Quote from: Cat the Bounty Smuggler on March 09, 2022, 11:40:34 PM
So, serious question, since I had never heard of this Black Cat account before this thread: what bad things are they supposed to have done? I've been trawling what tweets I can find and... they seem to be anti-woke and pro-Israel. What am I missing here?

Where are you seeing these? Got a link? The Black Cat account I'm referencing was infamous for making anti-semitic tweets. But that account was nuked shortly after TL was accused of being BC. I found the archived Tweets linking the two through the "OSR Steppe Nomads" idea. Working on finding more archived Tweets.

It was long suspected that TL and BC were the same person. When people started matching the voice and certain Tweets, the account was deleted.

Again, false claim. The person who made the claim that blackcat is taylor was posting on twitter and based it on the fact that in the livestream Taylor talked about a steppe nomads RPG and someone remembered black cat's tweets about wanting a game about nomads. As far as I know, THAT'S IT.  As far as I understand, black cat was never recorded, so there's no way the voice-comparison thing is real. Of course, if I'm wrong, please post evidence.

I'm told the first individual was an IRL associate of Blackcat who recognized their voice, because they've talked to them. And the discussions by Blackcat and TL us a lot of the same words, this is betond simple subject matter. Could be BS, but I'm inclined to believe it.

Also, Blackcat removing THOSE TWEETS in particular is pretty interesting. As is the fact that TL has yet to deny it.

And THIS LINK, which I have already posted, of archived Blackcat Tweets, IS dated (look at the URL) late Dec. 2020.

http://web.archive.org/web/20201228184513/https://twitter.com/Moochava/status/1343611543288651776