Quote from: RPGPunditIf BeSM continues with another company, which it certainly might, it will continue to be the industry standard for that genre.

If not, something else will come along. None of the competition out there right now come even close to being able to fulfill BeSM's position in this genre.

RPGPundit

I dont think its a question of "If", its a matter of when and the right person coming up with the money

Quote from: Geek MessiahI dont think its a question of "If", its a matter of when and the right person coming up with the money

Or one of the current wrong people becoming right as GoO's former head honcho gets more desperate for debt relief and/or living funds and the price tag drops.

Quote from: Geek MessiahI dont think its a question of "If", its a matter of when and the right person coming up with the money

There is, however, the question of longevity. I imagine two broad scenarios; there are shades of possibility between them:

Scenario A: Another publisher actually picks up BESM3 and not only publishes it, but keeps it in print and makes an honest go at supporting it with supplements.

Scenario B: Another publisher picks up BESM3, publishes a nice edition in a single moderate print-run so that the fans can have it and get a nice note of closure, and then lets it fade into the night unless sales exceed their expectations considerably.

I would love to see A happen, but I also know that it would be much easier to find a publisher interested in Scenario B, mainly because any of the publishers with the resources to support BESM3 are publishers who already have other games they're focusing their editorial (and other) resources on.

I'm still fairly confident that we'll have a copy of BESM3 to hug and squeeze and call George ... partly because BESM3 is known to be finished entirely (including page layout) so that makes it a very attractive thing for even a halfway-interested publisher. I'm less confident (though hopeful) that the Companion will see print (very hopeful, since I like the part I wrote) and even less confident (though still hopeful) that we'll see anything beyond that.

Quote from: GabrielMacross Plus
Macross II

Are these related to Robotech?

Also, does anime focus on anything other than mecha?  I mean, giant robots were an interesting twist 30 years ago, but they've lost their charm with me...

Quote from: VellorianAre these related to Robotech?

Also, does anime focus on anything other than mecha?  I mean, giant robots were an interesting twist 30 years ago, but they've lost their charm with me...

Robotech is an Americanized conglomeration of three unrelated Japanese mecha/sci-fi programs from the early 80s.  The original Macross series became the first 36 episodes of Robotech.

In the land of the rising sun, Macross is it's own thing.  Think of them like parallel universes.

Still, if you've seen the first 36 episodes of Robotech, you've seen Macross.  You'll have different names for the characters and think of "protoculture" as something entirely different, but you'll still have the gist of it, just like Star Blazers fans have the gist of Space Battleship Yamato.  And the sequels don't really require you to know much Macross lore in the first place, so you should be able to get into them just fine.

If you're tired of mecha (what a wierdo you are) then try Golgo 13: The Professional, Fist of the North Star: The Motion Picture (if either of those are still in production), and Barefoot Gen.

Or, if you just want something strange, Project A-Ko.

Quote from: GabrielRobotech is an Americanized conglomeration of three unrelated Japanese mecha/sci-fi programs from the early 80s.  The original Macross series became the first 36 episodes of Robotech.

I've seen the first couple DVDs of Robotech, I don't think that's the full 36 eps, though.  It only felt like maybe ... 10?

Quote from: Gabriel"protoculture"

I'm getting the implication that there was a culture that "seeded" Earth and also went on to become the Zentradi.  What I'm still confused about is who built the SDF-1.

Quote from: Gabrieljust like Star Blazers fans have the gist of Space Battleship Yamato.

I saw Star Blazers when I was a kid, so we're talking 25 years ago.  It seemed to me that there were three distinct "types" of Star Blazers show, would these have been three different seasons?  

QuoteIf you're tired of mecha (what a wierdo you are)

Yeah, well, I'm weird, that I'll grant you.    

I just picked up all of the Cowboy Bebop shows + movie from eBay.  I should get it in a few days.  I'm also borrowing the rest of the Robotech from my buddy.  I've downloaded some fantasy anime, but I got pretty bored through the first couple episodes which were little more than a rehashed dungeon crawl after a town got attacked by goblins.  

Thanks for the help, by the way.    I feel like a regular gaijin.

Quote from: VellorianI've seen the first couple DVDs of Robotech, I don't think that's the full 36 eps, though.  It only felt like maybe ... 10?

6 episodes per DVD, so 12.

Quote from: VellorianI'm getting the implication that there was a culture that "seeded" Earth and also went on to become the Zentradi.  What I'm still confused about is who built the SDF-1.

Don't worry, it gets more confusing before it becomes clear.

Your interpretation of protoculture is more or less right for Macross, though

Quote from: VellorianI saw Star Blazers when I was a kid, so we're talking 25 years ago.  It seemed to me that there were three distinct "types" of Star Blazers show, would these have been three different seasons?

Well, there were three seasons (one only aired in very limited places), but Star Blazers was very different on American TV at the time because each season was a continuing story.  While there were differences between the seasons, they do just pick up where the other left off and feature the same characters.  So, you may be thinking of something else.

Quote from: VellorianI've downloaded some fantasy anime, but I got pretty bored through the first couple episodes which were little more than a rehashed dungeon crawl after a town got attacked by goblins.

Many people like Record of Lodoss War (the original OAV).  But, what you described does sound an awful lot like the first couple of episodes.  It takes a while to get going.

Quote from: GabrielOr, if you just want something strange, Project A-Ko.

Hah. Revolutionary Girl Utena and Serial Experiments Lain are two of my favourites: I'd say that they qualify as just a tad stranger.

Quote from: YamoOr one of the current wrong people becoming right as GoO's former head honcho gets more desperate for debt relief and/or living funds and the price tag drops.

This is true.   Hopefully that doesnt happen and he takes the time to place the various games with the right people and gets GOO out of debt so it ends on a positive note.

Quote from: S. John RossThere is, however, the question of longevity. I imagine two broad scenarios; there are shades of possibility between them:

Scenario A: Another publisher actually picks up BESM3 and not only publishes it, but keeps it in print and makes an honest go at supporting it with supplements.

Scenario B: Another publisher picks up BESM3, publishes a nice edition in a single moderate print-run so that the fans can have it and get a nice note of closure, and then lets it fade into the night unless sales exceed their expectations considerably.

I would love to see A happen, but I also know that it would be much easier to find a publisher interested in Scenario B, mainly because any of the publishers with the resources to support BESM3 are publishers who already have other games they're focusing their editorial (and other) resources on.

I'm still fairly confident that we'll have a copy of BESM3 to hug and squeeze and call George ... partly because BESM3 is known to be finished entirely (including page layout) so that makes it a very attractive thing for even a halfway-interested publisher. I'm less confident (though hopeful) that the Companion will see print (very hopeful, since I like the part I wrote) and even less confident (though still hopeful) that we'll see anything beyond that.

What you are saying is very true.   A) is the option we all hope will happen if/when BESM 3 is purchased.   I can see how option B) would be good for a company (not necessarily for the fans) as a quick way to get money in a hurry.

We can only hope that whoever Mark sells it to is interested in keeping BESM going.   Hopefully Mark is factoring that in before selling the rights to BESM but you never know

It's been days now, but I still read the thread title as Sharp Pointy Chin Hair. Makes me think about that episode of Dexter's Lab where the french guy tried to stab Dexter with his goatee...

-mice

Quote from: flyingmiceIt's been days now, but I still read the thread title as Sharp Pointy Chin Hair. Makes me think about that episode of Dexter's Lab where the french guy tried to stab Dexter with his goatee...

-mice

Never seen it so I wouldnt know.  I will take your word for it

Other thread titles I considered:

Eye Globes and Hair Blades

Pointy Nose Razor Hair

Melodramatic Cry Unmoving Chin

Short Skirts Underage Schoolgirls
(This aspect of Anime really disturbs me...)

Quote from: Geek MessiahI can see how option B) would be good for a company (not necessarily for the fans) as a quick way to get money in a hurry.

I disagree vehemently with this characterization. I was talking about a publisher who respects BESM using a sensible way to get the book out there without undue risk and without derailing a company's established priorities, not "a quick way to get money in a hurry."

Quote from: S. John RossI disagree vehemently with this characterization. I was talking about a publisher who respects BESM using a sensible way to get the book out there without undue risk and without derailing a company's established priorities, not "a quick way to get money in a hurry."

What I meant to say is "Option B could be a money grab for certain companies and other companies may put out BESM 3rd so that the community who has been looking forward to it may the game they have been waiting for.