I think it's too expensive... but then, given how well the kickstarter is doing, this is not a common opinion.  But that's cool.

I wish him good luck with it, and I'll keep an eye out for a GM's day sale or the like to try the game with.

Quote from: Brad;821072How is that any different from Rifts?

Different stories, different characters, different author, different game system which from what I've seen I'll like better, different decade, full color, has a demon lord. And in my case different players in a different city.

Rifts is one thing and fun. Shadows of the Demon Lord is another similar but different thing which hopefully will also be fun.

Another way to look at is how is OD&D different from RuneQuest? Or AD&D from Warhammer FRP? Or Lord of the Rings from Game of Thrones? And can some people like one, some another, and some all of them? And if one is successful, does that increase the chance, even if someone doesn't like that particular successful one, that more RPGs or novels or TV/movies will get made that are similar that some more people will like? And maybe attract new people who may not have been interested before?

That's why it's good is the game is successful and delivers what it promises.

Quote from: Skywalker;821036Its not necessarily that there is something new or innovative here. But it looks like a solid offering that improves on and combines a bunch of things I already really like from WFRP, D&D and elsewhere.

I think you nailed it.

So we have 9 adventures, all from big names in the industry, and we are looking likely to hit a 224 page rulebook in the next week. This was helped along by a public shout by a black metal band

I am also looking forward to the Cults of the Empire setting PDF at $65k, as it just screams WFRP 2e like goodness.

Quote from: jcfiala;821084I think it's too expensive... but then, given how well the kickstarter is doing, this is not a common opinion.

I was very reluctant to back this KS for the same reason, I found the price to be too high ($70+ for the full digital package is too much for me)... but then I realized that most of the stretch goal PDFs so far are adventures, which I don't use, so I decided to back at the $24 level to get the core + the enhancement PDF. Maybe if they make stretch goal PDFs as add-ons I may up my pledge to pick one I like.

In the end, despite the pricing, I decided the game was too interesting for me to miss it.

Hey Rob, if you're reading this hit me up with an e-mail and maybe we can get a brief q&a going to post up on the site?

OHT, do you want me to message Rob via KS with your request?

Quote from: Skywalker;821428OHT, do you want me to message Rob via KS with your request?

Sure, that would be great. He should have my e-mail address from back in the day, but just in case i'll PM you my current address.

Rob has kindly agreed to answer some questions for us, so post to this thread any questions you'd like me to ask him about this project or maybe his design work in general and i'll be e-mailing him the good ones.

I'm curious about what are the plans for the game beyond the corebook and the stretch goals unlocked by the KS.

Will the 5 adventures in Tales of the Demon Lord have any narrative connection? Or are they separate?

Quote from: JeremyR;819923Has an RPG ever advertised itself as "Hard to play" or "Requires a lot of prep"?

Rolemaster.

Question for Rob Schwalb: how do you justify the price point? Especially for the PDF?

I've heard the argument about authors needing to be paid for content, but these price points don't exist for novels, even glossy graphic novels, and your PDF prices appear quite out of sync with fiction PDF prices.

Maybe I am very wrong, but I get the sense with this Kickstarter and the Mutant Chronicles launch that RPG publishers are just making coffee table art books for the collector crowd.

But hey, if the market will bear the price, what do I know?

In terms of value, its worth pointing out that the KS, at the current rate, looks set to provide a 256+ page full colour hardcover, 48 page companion PDF, 64+ pages of setting PDFs, 64+ pages of adventure PDFs. That's leaving aside any fiction and the QuickStart PDF.

The starting point was low given the stretch goals and in particular the novel concept of achievements, but IMO the KS will reach comparable value to other "all in one bundle" KSs YMMV

Quote from: JeremyR;819923Has an RPG ever advertised itself as "Hard to play" or "Requires a lot of prep"?

I'm pretty sure thats what "realistic rules" was code for in the 90s. At least if Phoenix Command was anything to go by...