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[Sell me on] Cyberpunk 2020

Started by CTPhipps, January 15, 2017, 11:15:19 PM

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CTPhipps

The game is going pretty well so far with the PCs having beaten the crap out of a bunch of cops sent after them but not actually killed any as well as escaped with vital evidence on the subject of Easy-P's death. I've expanded the conspiracy a bit with the fact they're having to protect a witness who actually didn't see as much as she thinks she saw, the fact Easy-P wasn't killed but had switched faces with Johnny Silverhand before his execution (who I'm treating as the Bowie of the setting--which will make things worse), and this may have all been a set up.

Either way, the players are really enjoying it.

Currently, they're leaning toward helping the cops get away with the murder but taking down Easy-P for his own murder. The PCs are showing decidedly "mercenary with a heart" tendencies with the fact they have nothing against the megacorporations personally and would love to work with them but have lines they won't cross--which is good for things.

I think for the next game, I'm going to do the bombing plot from "Deus Ex: Mankind Divided" except replace the terrorists with the city's poor than cyborgs.

FYI - As I understand it, the corporations generally have their own private police/security in their areas while the rest of Night City has to deal with their own crappy municipal police.

Spike

Shh.... I haven't actually played Mankind Divided yet, despite getting it on pre-order...   no spoilers!
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Quote from: CTPhipps;941747I think for the next game, I'm going to do the bombing plot from "Deus Ex: Mankind Divided" except replace the terrorists with the city's poor than cyborgs.
That's pretty much the plot of a lot of cyberpunk stuff.  There's whole reams of it, vaguely socialist dystopian "people respond to the excesses of the rich with revolt" themes.  I'd recommend looking at some of the French Revolution stuff, and make sure you have NET54 covering it (and manipulating it through the media) excessively.
QuoteFYI - As I understand it, the corporations generally have their own private police/security in their areas while the rest of Night City has to deal with their own crappy municipal police.

Pretty much, although CP2020 doesn't have the formalized extraterritoriality of the SR setting, so TECHNICALLY the cops have some authority, but in practice the higher ups have all been bought off or are just openly allied with some corp or other, so the cops don't get to do much.
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CTPhipps

My game inspired a funny little list....except it's not really all that funny at all when you think about it.

TOP SIGNS WE'RE LIVING IN A CYBERPUNK FUTURE

Spike

I'll need a citation for point 31...
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CTPhipps

Quote from: Spike;942231I'll need a citation for point 31...

Hahaha. :)

crkrueger

Quote from: Spike;942231I'll need a citation for point 31...

Talk to city planners in Vancouver and Miami.
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Spike

Quote from: CRKrueger;942258Talk to city planners in Vancouver and Miami.

You want me to listen to... let me see if I get this straight... City Government beaurocrats. To get 'da troof' on anything????

You mean some of the least competent people in a field of generally incompetent people... I'm talking politicians here, son... about something affecting the real world?

That's...

...wow.


Do you even Cyberpunk, bro?!!??  

Because, if you Cyberpunk, why do I have to ask if you Cyberpunk?
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Quote from: CTPhipps;942222My game inspired a funny little list....except it's not really all that funny at all when you think about it.

TOP SIGNS WE'RE LIVING IN A CYBERPUNK FUTURE

#4 is incorrect, but I wouldn't be able to prove it to you.

#20 isn't right if you accept the lexicon of Special Forces from the US perspective.  They have SWAT, and parts that might even be considered ESWAT, but they're not Special Forces. There's a different game in SF that they don't touch.

#27 doesn't take into consideration the price point of those cars.

#32 would be even better if the citizens were provided with them by the state. Think SLA industries.

#35 isn't a "may" statement.

#40 I think (as I mentioned earlier) they're actually about 15 years off.  But it's still on track for their timeline!

I like the list, and I'll poke through the rest of the Blog.
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Spike

Quote from: Panzerkraken;942314#4 is incorrect, but I wouldn't be able to prove it to you.

Its on! That's right, baby! Time to argue pointless side commentary to the DETH!!!!

Re-read the statement here, I'll re-order it for ya: In the opinion of the Powers That Be, Online Blogs and Journalists are a threat.

Russian Hackers Stole the Election we much?  Fake News is the New Anonymous. Wikileaks is hiding out in a Foreign Embassy? Snowden? The former editor of Brietbart serving the new president directly?

Tell me again that online... excuse me, UNDERGROUND hackers and journalists aren't threatening the powers that be... in the opinion of both the underground and the powers!

Quote#20 isn't right if you accept the lexicon of Special Forces from the US perspective.  They have SWAT, and parts that might even be considered ESWAT, but they're not Special Forces. There's a different game in SF that they don't touch.

Semantics. Most people can tell the difference between Special Forces and special forces.  We say the russian Spetznatz are Russian Special Forces, and nobody thinks they wear green berets and have the Duke.   Besides, if you understand out the word is actually meant to be used, Commando is EVEN MORE ANNOYING to use without the grammer nazis swarming ya, and who needs that noise?

Quote#27 doesn't take into consideration the price point of those cars.

Irrelevant, as in a cyberpunk world you either can't afford anything, or you don't care about price.  There is no middle class in cyberpunk!

Quote#32 would be even better if the citizens were provided with them by the state. Think SLA industries.

A: SLA Industries is not classic Cyberpunk. Awesome on toast? Sure, but an alternate reality created from the mind of a madman being treated by unethical doctors using illegal chemicals in Britons free socialized health care, run by his own twisted ego as a demonic corporate god, with the man's own fractured psyche becoming the incarnation of evil itself opposed to said demonic corporate god...well, that's a far stretch to... cyberpunk.

B: You're thinking Brit-punk. Or...um... Brit-c-punk? Bryterpunk?


Quote#35 isn't a "may" statement.

Is not argument. Is grammer-nazi semantic bullshit. Besides, Uncertainty about what is true and what is propaganda from the powers that be is very cyberpunk.

Quote#40 I think (as I mentioned earlier) they're actually about 15 years off.  But it's still on track for their timeline!

???

Were you trying to pad your post?  Its 15 years off, but still on track?  Either it's 'in time' for 2020, or its not. Pick one.
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CTPhipps

We just need to give Johnsons and Johnsons mercenaries and their own arcology for Edgerunners to raid for the secret to baby oil.


Spike

That's it man, you done killed the thread dead.  Where's ma fork, I'ma stick it!
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CTPhipps

Currently, we're on the next adventure where there is a large amount of inspiration from Mankind Divided (boo, hiss on cancelling the sequel!).

There's a train bombing which is blamed on political extremists operating in the city. These individuals are refugees which come from, well, the rest of the United States because the rest of the country is a shithole. The PCs managed to talk to one of the bombers before they blow up (by remote) and discover it seems to have been orchestrated by the cops.

But is it the corporate-run PMC who want to get the newly created Refuge Zone dismantled to build some high-priced corporate real estate or the actual NCPD who have their own reasons to frame the refugees? Or it the actual terrorist group forming with some of the ex-Nomads in the Zone? In this game, I'm going with the party responsible being a single lone actor who is hoping to start a war to draw attention to the conflict between Nomads and city-dwellers.

So far, we're having a lot of fun!

Voros

I remember getting the book back in the early 90s and being excited to run it. Took over an hour to create characters though and my friend got his face blown off by a thug with a submachine gun in the first encounter. The high lethality seemed out of whack with the amount of time and effort it took to create a character.

CTPhipps

Quote from: Voros;943955I remember getting the book back in the early 90s and being excited to run it. Took over an hour to create characters though and my friend got his face blown off by a thug with a submachine gun in the first encounter. The high lethality seemed out of whack with the amount of time and effort it took to create a character.

I agree that is a major flaw of the game.