Quote from: Charon's Little Helper;1049461Not if you start with the default of already being students.

That's like saying it's only true to the source for Warhammer Fantasy if you have a chance of rolling up as someone who died of disease in childhood or is the village idiot.

I was joking, but to be serious even in UA there is a huge gap between students. The girl who can make her hands big goes to the same hero course as the one that can create any non-living object in a flash, after all.

That kind of power disparity doesn't always make for the most fun, though.

Quote from: Brand55;1049468I was joking, but to be serious even in UA there is a huge gap between students. The girl who can make her hands big goes to the same hero course as the one that can create any non-living object in a flash, after all.

That kind of power disparity doesn't always make for the most fun, though.

I think you'd have to play only students at the same place in the power curve and have the rest be NPCs.

Quote from: RPGPundit;1048430So, if you were to set an RPG campaign in a school, and it couldn't be a 'wizard school', what type of school would it be?

I've done an 'Adventurer's School', with all the appropriate classes, from swordsmanship to magic.  I once tried a sci-fi police/bounty hunter academy, but that didn't last long.  I like to think it was life that got in the way, but it might have been a bit lame.

Yeah the girl who can make any non living material is really, REALLY OP (yes even compared to AllMight): she pulled a GPS tracker out of...herself...during one episode.  Actually I think it was two of the same "model" she created on demand.  So it's not like "Oh well I can make a sword or a shield or a metal bar"; it's straight-up electronics and other complex items, too.

So what's to stop her creating, say, a nuclear weapon?

I have to admit I enjoy watching the show with my daughters

Quote from: thedungeondelver;1049561Yeah the girl who can make any non living material is really, REALLY OP (yes even compared to AllMight): she pulled a GPS tracker out of...herself...during one episode.  Actually I think it was two of the same "model" she created on demand.  So it's not like "Oh well I can make a sword or a shield or a metal bar"; it's straight-up electronics and other complex items, too.

So what's to stop her creating, say, a nuclear weapon?

I have to admit I enjoy watching the show with my daughters

Yep, the show is a blast. I have my nitpicks but it's a lot of fun.

Okay, Momo. She's actually one of my favorite characters so it kinda sucks that she has such a broken power and the mangaka has to constantly leave her in the background or come up with silly reasons why she doesn't instantly solve most of their problems. I still don't know why she doesn't make tranq guns or other capture devices on demand to take down villains when they attack, but whatever. Oh, and the test with Aizawa never should have been close if she'd been written to use her full ability. But I digress.

Anyway, she actually could make a nuke if she really wanted to. She only has two real limitations. First, she has to know the molecular structure of the thing. That's not a huge factor since she's a genius-level intellect and can do complex electronics without trouble. Second, she has to use her body's lipids to create the item. That would be an issue but we've seen that the mass isn't transferred on a 1:1 basis since her favorite attack is to make a cannon that is about the same size she is. So to make a nuclear warhead, I'd say her biggest challenge would be getting her hands on the plans so she could memorize them. Once she had that, there's be nothing to stop her from being a walking nuke factory.

Quote from: Brand55;1049562Yep, the show is a blast. I have my nitpicks but it's a lot of fun.

Okay, Momo. She's actually one of my favorite characters so it kinda sucks that she has such a broken power and the mangaka has to constantly leave her in the background or come up with silly reasons why she doesn't instantly solve most of their problems. I still don't know why she doesn't make tranq guns or other capture devices on demand to take down villains when they attack, but whatever. Oh, and the test with Aizawa never should have been close if she'd been written to use her full ability. But I digress.

Anyway, she actually could make a nuke if she really wanted to. She only has two real limitations. First, she has to know the molecular structure of the thing. That's not a huge factor since she's a genius-level intellect and can do complex electronics without trouble. Second, she has to use her body's lipids to create the item. That would be an issue but we've seen that the mass isn't transferred on a 1:1 basis since her favorite attack is to make a cannon that is about the same size she is. So to make a nuclear warhead, I'd say her biggest challenge would be getting her hands on the plans so she could memorize them. Once she had that, there's be nothing to stop her from being a walking nuke factory.

Well there's the rub: when she created the two tracking devices...I mean let's consider what goes into those: ROM, RAM, display, software, correct PCB layout, etc. etc.  Did she really remember ALL of that?  Shit, I couldn't accurately draw a gate array for an Intel 4004 if you put a copy of it next to me.  Yeah her power is definitely broken.  It was a lot more...ugh, I hate to use this word, believable when she was just making solid items or basic chemical compounds.

But at this point what's to stop her saying "I'll create a disintegration ray" She's got an "I win" button that the show's creators have built in and now have to make excuses to not use.

Quote from: thedungeondelver;1049623Well there's the rub: when she created the two tracking devices...I mean let's consider what goes into those: ROM, RAM, display, software, correct PCB layout, etc. etc.  Did she really remember ALL of that?  Shit, I couldn't accurately draw a gate array for an Intel 4004 if you put a copy of it next to me.  Yeah her power is definitely broken.  It was a lot more...ugh, I hate to use this word, believable when she was just making solid items or basic chemical compounds.

But at this point what's to stop her saying "I'll create a disintegration ray" She's got an "I win" button that the show's creators have built in and now have to make excuses to not use.

Exactly. To use a Mutants and Masterminds reference, she's the super smart player with a Variable power and the poor GM has to come up with often ridiculous reasons how said player doesn't walk over every obstacle put in front of them. If I was drafting a supers team from UA's first years, she'd be my first pick without hesitation.

That's actually a an issue with hero games like that; they're full of broken powers and builds that can trip up GMs who don't catch them. Hero high games actually have an advantage there simply because PCs are typically coming in weaker than their adult counterparts.

Quote from: thedungeondelver;1049623Well there's the rub: when she created the two tracking devices...I mean let's consider what goes into those: ROM, RAM, display, software, correct PCB layout, etc. etc.

Yeah - before that it was more consistent and not OP. She could make one solid thing at a time. Even the cannon she made before could arguably have been made in stages and be too time consuming in most circumstances.

If it was just one solid thing at a time she'd still be amazing - but not able to make nukes (she'd kill herself with radiation by the time she put it together) or even guns with any speed.

Quote from: Charon's Little Helper;1049631Yeah - before that it was more consistent and not OP. She could make one solid thing at a time. Even the cannon she made before could arguably have been made in stages and be too time consuming in most circumstances.

If it was just one solid thing at a time she'd still be amazing - but not able to make nukes (she'd kill herself with radiation by the time she put it together) or even guns with any speed.

Yeah I wish they'd stuck with solid object creation and left it at that.  They opened up a can of worms with the whole "Anything/person of holding" shtick with her power.

I guess a Jedi Academy could be another one.

A "school" for thieves/con-artists akin to The Lies of Locke Lamora could be fun.  Alternately, what about a "school" for assassins that is part of  a Thuggee-style cult?  Unbeknownst to the students (at first, at least), they are all children of people slain by the Assassins and taken as infants to be raised up and trained in the cult.

Quote from: nightlamp;1049954A "school" for thieves/con-artists akin to The Lies of Locke Lamora could be fun.  Alternately, what about a "school" for assassins that is part of  a Thuggee-style cult?  Unbeknownst to the students (at first, at least), they are all children of people slain by the Assassins and taken as infants to be raised up and trained in the cult.

So, ninja academy run by the bad Indian ninja clan:D?

Something like that!

Sounds fun, then:D!

Quote from: RPGPundit;1049909I guess a Jedi Academy could be another one.

Jedi academy would be a Wizard School though.  And not just a little bit.