Quote from: jeff37923;639933You can do Doctor Who easily enough using Mongoose Traveller.

I'm sure you could but I don't think it'd be as natural a fit.

Quote from: RPGPundit;640023I'm sure you could but I don't think it'd be as natural a fit.

It is not a natural fit, you are correct. It is also not seamless, but it is smooth in its implementation.

Quote from: RPGPundit;639679I'll be damned. So did I dream them??

Maybe you were thinking of FGU's SPACE OPERA, it had Laser Swords.

Quote from: jeff37923;639933You can do Doctor Who easily enough using Mongoose Traveller.

I would probably just use Time Master, if doing Doctor Who.

Quote from: flyingcircus;640097Maybe you were thinking of FGU's SPACE OPERA, it had Laser Swords.

That sounds about right!

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Quote from: flyingcircus;640097Maybe you were thinking of FGU's SPACE OPERA, it had Laser Swords.

Huh. Must have been, but that's really weird, I barely even looked at Space Opera.

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Yeah, SPACE OPERA, that brings me back, I use to play the hell out of that game, more than TRAVELLER.  Kinda wish someone would get this thing and re-write and clean it up, make it look new and shinny and re-print it with some updated material and an updated engine.

Quote from: Justin Alexander;638829I'm a big fan of Star Wars, but the idea that it contained even a single innovative genre trope is absurd. It's all yanked straight out of the pulps.

Yes and no. There's a lot of pulp/comic book/serial stuff in Star Wars, but what Lucas did that was innovative was to yank things from other genres: westerns, samurai movies, Arthurian legend, swashbucklers of the 30s and 40s and even his own earlier movies about an oppressive police state and teenagers who go hot-rodding as they dream of getting away from the boring little place they grew up in.

Cross-pollination is a good thing.

Quote from: Elfdart;640561Cross-pollination is a good thing.

When its done right, yes.

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Quote from: Kuroth;637970For Light Saber versus blaster, simply use the blade vs blade rule that the defenders blade skill in blade vs blaster is applied as a negative modifier to the attackers blaster chance to hit.  For ship to ship combat, greatly decrease the range of phasers or ship blasters compared to standard Traveller weapons, which would make close range combat a given.

I don't know about that. The reason ship-to-ship combat takes place at such close range in the movies and TV shows is simply to allow the viewer to see as much of the action as possible in one shot. This is why movies set during modern wars usually don't feature long-range artillery duels -at least not as the centerpiece of the action.

You'll notice that both Star Wars and Star Trek battles take place at close range for a reason in-universe. Either the constant jamming (SW) forces combatants to use their eyes rather than sensors -shortening the range, or the ships are forced in close proximity as a way of physically blocking the enemy off. In ST, you have that nebula thing in Wrath of Khan that ruins sensors.

There's no reason to assume weapons in either setting don't have the ranges weapons in Traveler do.

 

QuoteIt is just a different technology issue, different weapons and so on.  Star Trek is a higher tech level than standard Traveller, in some ways Star Wars is lower in others higher.  Traveller tech levels are not necessarily an across the board leveler for a world.  Say our world, our space travel is still at 8, but our computers are 9.  So,  Star Wars can have advanced space travel, but have relatively low weapons.

SW weapons and ship speed are many orders of magnitude greater than the ones in ST.

So...did the Traveller Star Trek game mentioned and shown in this thread ever come into existence?

No, for reasons unknown, it's vaporware.  Could be the same Mongoose licensing nonsense that led to the Cephus Engine.

Oh well, I was mainly curious; I probably wouldn't have used Traveller for Star Trek anyway. When I play Traveller it's to get away from a bright and glossy Federation of nice guys and get out into the dirty frontier of retired soldiers on the make...! Still, it would be interesting to see it officially written up. Is Mongoose Traveller backwards compatible with original  Traveller? Somehow I think I have a copy someone gave me erroneously thinking it was the same thing, but I either never got around to reading it or barely skimmed it and stashed it away somewhere. Or else I'm dreaming the whole incident.

Well, it's Prime Directive so its timeline diverges after the original series.  The original series is actually a series of training films about incidents involving a number of different ships and crews in the Star Fleet Universe.

Mongoose Traveller is only superficially compatible with any other version of Traveller, same stats and similar skills but it's really its own game.  Initiative rolls and attribute bonuses and skill packages to make sure your group has the right skills for the campaign.  On the other hand outside of Classic and Megatraveller even official editions aren't all that compatible.

Maybe I should do a Trek with Classic Traveller write-up like the one I did for Starwars?

I think the first thing would be that the branches of Starfleet correspond to Traveller careers but ranks are all Navy ranks.  So, Marines are security, Command and Engineering are Navy, Science is the Scientist career or perhaps scouts.  You can change branches and cross train while remaining within Starfleet.

Star  Trek's gotta be TL21 or so.  I think the way to handle that would be with outright new ship's systems and equipment.  In essence, a Warp Drive isn't just a reskinned Jump Drive that needs heavy, expensive, fuel handling apparatus, it's new hardware farther up the chart.  Likewise a transporter, shields, tricorders, and phasers would need their own write-ups.  I'm thinking a Phaser I should have the stats of a Laser Rifle and ship's Phasers should, at the very least inflict 1d6 damage results per hit.  Phaser rifles should be able to kill tanks.  Shields probably get a rating that ignores a number of hits per turn.

Quote from: David Johansen;975855No, for reasons unknown, it's vaporware.  Could be the same Mongoose licensing nonsense that led to the Cephus Engine.

It was. No reasons unknown about it.