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RPGSite RULES NOTICE: When Posting Links

Started by RPGPundit, September 02, 2007, 01:26:32 PM

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Kyle Aaron

Quote from: James McMurrayWhy not just have it so that people who don't want to go through 45 seconds worth of effort are left in the dark? And people who have been banned elsewhere have to toil under the repercussions of their past actions?
As Aos said, why not just make the 45 seconds effort of copying and pasting?

The thing is that we're here to have a discussion. The rpg discussions are supposed to be open to all. If you link without quoting the relevant parts, the discussion will be closed to some people. It's sort of like going to a restaurant but then refusing to give one of the guests a plate. Why do it? Let everyone participate.

I don't see why I should have to miss out on an interesting therpgsite discussion because I was banned at rpg.net, and am not welcome at story-games. The effect of bans are supposed to be just for that site, after all.

But even with the free registering, it can get tedious. There are a lot of sites that insist you register before reading them, like the New York Times online. Should I have to register at every site anyone happens to link to, just because they're too lazy to do a bit of copying and pasting? If you want to discuss X, then lay out X for us. It that so unreasonable?

It's the same as why I once told RPGPundit he ought to provide links to things he was discussing in his blog. He was always saying, "so-and-so says such-and-such, the cunt!" And you always had the feeling that maybe they did, maybe they didn't - it'd be good to have a link and see for yourself. It lets the conversation be open and honest. Why should I have to track down the originals of things RPGPundit links to in his blog? If he wants us to discuss them, he can link them. This is just a step further: why should I have to register at some other site just for a discussion here?

I mean, I don't know if we need a formal rule for it, but it just seems like common sense to me. If you want to discuss X, lay out X for us.
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James McMurray

I'm on the flip side. If you want to discuss an article, you should probably read the article. Or even moreso, if you want to discuss another thread on another board (as with the recent Gygax thread) you should probably read the entire thread. Otherwise it's just stuff being taken out of context.

But, since it's a rule, I'll follow it if I ever decide to start a thread about something happening on another forum. I didn't expect it to be changed, just wanted to voice my displeasure.

Brantai

Quote from: Elliot Wilenit's not the job of one forum (theRPGsite) to be an appendage of some other forum.
We sure do act like it sometimes.

Quote from: KoltarBe easier if a certain site just made Tangency "open" and viewable all the time.
Missing the point?

Haffrung

Quote from: James McMurrayI'm not saying check beforehand. I'm saying, basically, "fuck 'em if they want to read about D&D but can't be troubled to sign up at the website that's being used for D&D news." Likewise, if they want to learn about some random new Story Games discussion, it makes sense that they would be best serevd by registering at Story Games. Why should a rule be put in place that forces posters to make up for the laziness of readers?

Because not all of us are super-keen RPG enthusiasts registered at seven or eight different sites. I really don't like to register at more sites than I have to, for concerns of privacy, spam, and the annoyance of remembering loads of different user names and passwords (it seems every site has different formats it accepts in terms of number of letters, numerals, caps, etc.).

I eventually had to register at the WotC site after following several links here to articles I was curious about, and yes, it did annoy me. It annoyed me the first few posts where I couldn't follow the discussion, and then it annoyed me again when I had to register at the WotC site.

So don't be an peevish little bitch - just cut and paste anything you think is worth reading. Tip: use [ctrl+c] and [ctrl+v]. It takes about six seconds. That's a fuck of a lot less time than it takes to register at a new site. Who's being lazy here?
 

James McMurray

Sorry Haffrung, but you're paranoia is not going to change my mind. Given how insanely easy it is to create a free and anonymous email account to tie to your free and anonymous forum accounts, privacy and spam concerns are a joke. Since pretty much every brand of forum software allows you to click a "remember me" box, concerns about remembering multiple passwords are also not very realistic.

Again, it is not my job to make up for the laziness and paranoia of others. I'll do so because Pundit's lazy paranoia has decided that it is now A Rule, if I ever have the urge to start cross-board drama. So far I've avoided that particular vice.

Brantai, you're close. But we're not an appendage of one site, more like an amalgum appendage of the spot where the Forge, Story Games, and RPG.net overlap. And now, at least for a while, we'll also be an appendage of the 4e portions of gleemax, or wherever it is they're hosting these things.

Nicephorus

The rule makes sense to me.  
 
If someone wants to start a conversation, it's up to them to clue everyone in.  It's rude to expect everyone else to do your work.  A minute for registering may not seem like much, but it is for a 20 second read that I may realize I don't care about after 2 sentences.  If you want to have a conversation only among those registered on some other board, just have it on that other board.

Christopher Kubasik

Just a quick clarification:

You don't need to be a member of Story Games to view the content.  

You just don't.

There's no secret threads. There's no non-membership lockout.  

It's. Just. There.

Strange rumors to the contrary.

CK
 

Serious Paul

Quote from: James McMurraySince pretty much every brand of forum software allows you to click a "remember me" box, concerns about remembering multiple passwords are also not very realistic.

Seriously? You've never had a machine crash or accidentally cleared private data?

I'm not too interested in keeping track of twenty boards-the few I do participate in give me more than enough traffic to keep me busy forever.

brettmb2

Quote from: NicephorusThe rule makes sense to me.  
 
If someone wants to start a conversation, it's up to them to clue everyone in.  It's rude to expect everyone else to do your work.  A minute for registering may not seem like much, but it is for a 20 second read that I may realize I don't care about after 2 sentences.  If you want to have a conversation only among those registered on some other board, just have it on that other board.
Well said.
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James McMurray

Quote from: Serious PaulSeriously? You've never had a machine crash or accidentally cleared private data?

If you're registered at multiple sites you're probably either using unique passwords everywhere, or pulling from a central pool of common ones you use. Only the first case causes trouble when you lose your private date, and even then you should be using some sort of password management system (regardless of whether people are cutting and pasting or not).

QuoteI'm not too interested in keeping track of twenty boards-the few I do participate in give me more than enough traffic to keep me busy forever.

Since I never suggested you keep track of 20 boards, I'm happy with your decision not to. ;)

Abyssal Maw

Quote from: Christopher KubasikJust a quick clarification:

You don't need to be a member of Story Games to view the content.  

You just don't.

There's no secret threads. There's no non-membership lockout.  

It's. Just. There.

Strange rumors to the contrary.

CK

QuoteHi Guest!

Did you know that there are a number of topics and discussions that Guest Users cannot see until they register?

(taken from the Story-Games front page.)
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Christopher Kubasik

Quote from: Abyssal Maw(taken from the Story-Games front page.)


You're right!

I have no idea what those threads might be though.  

I just posted a thread to find out the answer.  Honestly, I read it sometimes logged in, sometimes not, and I've never noticed the difference.

Very well, then.  Story Games belongs on the list -- and rightly so!

CK
 

Sacrificial Lamb

Quote from: NicephorusThe rule makes sense to me.  
 
If someone wants to start a conversation, it's up to them to clue everyone in.  It's rude to expect everyone else to do your work.  A minute for registering may not seem like much, but it is for a 20 second read that I may realize I don't care about after 2 sentences.  If you want to have a conversation only among those registered on some other board, just have it on that other board.
Agreed.

walkerp

This is a good rule.  It's basic etiquette.  It's in your best interest as a poster too.
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