Er...yeah--that thread title should read "RPGs". Never try to type anything directly after coming off a graveyard shift (If an admin can edit that so I look like slightly less of a halfwit...). (:o) So how many folks here have purchased something (RPG or gaming-related) from lulu.com? Were you satisfied with your purchase/quality of the printing?
Two of my favorite RPG purchases of all time have been from lulu.com--Cold Space and Risus Deluxe (possibly worth buying for the banana-pumpkin loaf recipe alone). Any others I should be aware of?
I haven't bought it yet, but I'm looking forward to getting Encounter Critical, and probably even the CD.
Although I didn't order it directly from lulu.com, (I bought it at the IPR booth) my copy of The Shadow of Yesterday is from there originally.
I have not had a problem with it, the binding is good, no pages have fallen out, and the game is only worn from use.
Quote from: Zachary The FirstEr...yeah--that thread title should read "RPGs". Never try to type anything directly after coming off a graveyard shift (If an admin can edit that so I look like slightly less of a halfwit...). (:o) So how many folks here have purchased something (RPG or gaming-related) from lulu.com? Were you satisfied with your purchase/quality of the printing?
Well, I know phil reed was doing some of his PODs through them. I bought the DMs Directory of Demiplanes. It was decent print quality, but I can't say I love the look of the book. It didn't have the fading and tone changes in pictures the way that many (crappy) PODs did a few years ago, but it did have that "glossy ink" look that sort of makes it look a little cheap.
I think a lot of indie games are on lulu. IIRC, Clinton Nixon works there.
Lulu games I have are:
Star Cluster 2
Sorcerer
Cold City
Cold Space (I have the PDF version)
So far I like (in order) Cold Space the best, then SC2, Sorcerer, and finally Cold City.
I haven't picked up Cold City yet--actually, I didn't know it was on lulu.
So you really didn't care for it, mcrow, or is that just relatve to the other titles you mentioned?
I got my copy of JAGS-2 from them!
It came out great.
-Marco
Quote from: Zachary The FirstTwo of my favorite RPG purchases of all time have been from lulu.com--Cold Space and Risus Deluxe (possibly worth buying for the banana-pumpkin loaf recipe alone). Any others I should be aware of?
Funny thing about
Risus Deluxe. S. John announced it like two days after I went to trouble of printing out and three-hole punching
Risus, the
Risus Companion, and
The Big List of RPG Plots. Had I procrastinated just a little longer he would have had a sale and I would have saved a couple hours wrangling with an ancient photocopier to turn single sided printouts into double sided pages. I'm thinking I'll ask a net-savvy relative to buy me the Deluxe version or
Encounter Critical for Christmas. ECs probably the better choice because they'll be weirded out by the 'damaged' cover.
Quote from: McrowSorcerer
Cold City
Neither of these are on Lulu. I'm not sure where that came from.
I keep my work and my games pretty separate in online forums, but, yep, I do work as a developer at Lulu. Some of my favorite stuff there:
- Earthdawn (http://www.lulu.com/redbrick)
- The Dungeon Dive series (http://www.lulu.com/amalara)
- Gods and Monsters (http://www.lulu.com/fireblade)
- Run Robot Red (http://www.lulu.com/content/353647)
- Hero's Banner (http://www.lulu.com/content/359191)
Quote from: Zachary The FirstI haven't picked up Cold City yet--actually, I didn't know it was on lulu.
So you really didn't care for it, mcrow, or is that just relatve to the other titles you mentioned?
well, I guess it isn't Lulu now that I check. It is definitely from a poor quality printer though. Thats not to say Lulu is bad, the quality of the books I have from Lulu are all good.
yeah, I'm not digging Cold City to much. It just seems to lack verve. Nothing terribly wrong with it though. In Cold Space you clearly see that the writers were really into the game and were enthusiastic about the concept. Cold City seems a bit uninspired, IMO. Add to that the concept is not overly interesting and my end result is ....blah.
Not a bad game by any stretch but it just didn't make me want to play it.
AGON is kicking my ass with awesome, and it's now available at Lulu. I normally wait until I have, say, 3 games that I want to buy at once, then make my order with Lulu (to save on shipping).
I tried buying RISUS at Lulu (the normal version or whatver, the one that was $20 and not $35), but my order was cancelled because "the document was broken" or something. Looks like Johnny Ross never got around to fixing that version, and unfortunately I'm not interested in the Excessively Deluxe version (as I already had the Plots, Kringle, Ring of Thieves, etc). :(
Quote from: Andy KI tried buying RISUS at Lulu (the normal version or whatver, the one that was $20 and not $35), but my order was cancelled because "the document was broken" or something. Looks like Johnny Ross never got around to fixing that version, and unfortunately I'm not interested in the Excessively Deluxe version (as I already had the Plots, Kringle, Ring of Thieves, etc). :(
Same thing happened here; I already had Kringle and the Companion, but I was flush with cash from a writing gig so I bought Excessively Deluxe anyway. :D It's really quite a nice book.
The same goes for Don't Rest Your Head, which I also bought a couple of months back. They're good, solid books, well printed and bound.
I wouldn't be surprised if some of the other small press books I have were just printed by Lulu and then sold direct from the creator rather than through Lulu, as they're similarly printed & bound.
Quote from: McrowLulu games I have are:
Star Cluster 2
Sorcerer
Cold City
Cold Space (I have the PDF version)
So far I like (in order) Cold Space the best, then SC2, Sorcerer, and finally Cold City.
I don't think Sorcerer is actually a lulu title. If course, I could be wrong.
Quote from: pigames.netI don't think Sorcerer is actually a lulu title. If course, I could be wrong.
You could be right I may have been thinking of TSoY.
Quote from: McrowYou could be right I may have been thinking of TSoY.
That sounds about right. I like Clinton's work, only the books always come out larger than they need to be, making the actual games smaller that than they look. Not that it's a bad thing, just seemingly misleading.
Quote from: pigames.netThat sounds about right. I like Clinton's work, only the books always come out larger than they need to be, making the actual games smaller that than they look. Not that it's a bad thing, just seemingly misleading.
Brett,
Hey - and feel free to e-mail/PM me, because it's off topic - could you explain? I'm not asking in a hostile manner, either: I was just curious what you meant, as I respect your stuff, and am always looking to improve mine.
Quote from: Clinton R. NixonBrett,
Hey - and feel free to e-mail/PM me, because it's off topic - could you explain? I'm not asking in a hostile manner, either: I was just curious what you meant, as I respect your stuff, and am always looking to improve mine.
I'll email you shortly. BTW, your book went out today, so you might get it by Saturday.
I'm glad I saw this thread, Lulu.com looks interesting.
I've long wanted to have a printed copy of my homebrew system, but just never got around to doing it. This might be a means to get a couple handfuls of copies for people.
Anyone have experience with lulu.com as to how it would work towards this end?
Quote from: gleichmanI'm glad I saw this thread, Lulu.com looks interesting.
I've long wanted to have a printed copy of my homebrew system, but just never got around to doing it. This might be a means to get a couple handfuls of copies for people.
Anyone have experience with lulu.com as to how it would work towards this end?
It works great. If you don't want it sold generally, you can choose an option to have the product visible only to yourself. You pay only the cost to print and ship it.
-mice
Quote from: flyingmiceIt works great. If you don't want it sold generally, you can choose an option to have the product visible only to yourself. You pay only the cost to print and ship it.
-mice
Now that's nice.
So here's a stupid question, but does Lulu make the PDFs for you, or do you have to have a PDF made and formatted before you deal with them?
Still trying to figure out options for "Forward... to Adventure!" here.
RPGPundit
Well, I've never done anything but given them a pdf, but IIRC, they can take a word document as well. You are responsible for formatting it. There are several third parties who will layout your document as an option as well.
-mice
Quote from: RPGPunditSo here's a stupid question, but does Lulu make the PDFs for you, or do you have to have a PDF made and formatted before you deal with them?
Still trying to figure out options for "Forward... to Adventure!" here.
RPGPundit
http://www.lulu.com/help/index.php?fSymbol=upload_faq
"You can upload a PDF that you create, which will result in a published version of your printed material that looks exactly as you intended. If you upload a document that is not a PDF, the Lulu converter opens your document and generates a PDF. For guidelines on uploading software or multimedia content for downloadable or disc products, please see the individual Product FAQs." They accept a ton of non-pdf formats if you want to rist the automatic conversion.
Hmm... I'd still rather find some small-publisher who wanted to add it to his own stock of PDFs, rather than go the Lulu route...
RPGPundit
Haven't heard of it 'til now.
Not yet ready to pass judgement.
Still, being a man of such few means...
This might be convenient.
I can vouch for FtA!s playability and likability. I test-played it atr several conventions. People liked it.
Quote from: Clinton R. NixonNeither of these are on Lulu. I'm not sure where that came from.
I keep my work and my games pretty separate in online forums, but, yep, I do work as a developer at Lulu. Some of my favorite stuff there:
- Earthdawn (http://www.lulu.com/redbrick)
- The Dungeon Dive series (http://www.lulu.com/amalara)
- Gods and Monsters (http://www.lulu.com/fireblade)
- Run Robot Red (http://www.lulu.com/content/353647)
- Hero's Banner (http://www.lulu.com/content/359191)
Wow, Earthdawn! No shit!
I've been an Earthdawn fanboy since it came out. It's the only product line I've ever tried to collect all of. Clunky system and all, I loves me some Earthdawn.
Now it looks like there's a new edition I knew nothing about... Hmmmmm....
-O
Hmm, I didn't know Run Robot Red was on there. Annie Rush is neat.