Quote from: GeekEclectic;317981It would certainly grab  my attention. I <3 shoujo!

I think it would be easy to write. Especially with that open d6 license coming out.

It just seems a little weird somehow.

Quote from: Cranewings;317983It just seems a little weird somehow.

I dunno. I think a shoujo RPG would be great. I remember a little game named Heartquest, but it wasn't exactly as good an implementation of the FUDGE system that it could have been(and the artwork wasn't good enough, honestly).

There are a number of systems now with good mechanics for making interpersonal relationships typical to shoujo manga important to your chances of success . . . but I'm not sure d6 is one of them. I have the d6 Fantasy and Space books, and it's ok but it's not blowing my mind. Primetime Adventures is great for all kinds of TV shows, but it's not open. FATE would be a natural choice -- kind of a HeartQuest Plus is how I'd envision such a game. Or even something like Tim Kirk's "Hearts & Souls" or the PDQ system, where you can take damage to your relationships, which can then symbolize things like "I broke a prior engagement because I was too busy fighting evil, but I have a secret identity to maintain so I just have to let so-and-so be mad at me" and stuff like that.

More important than the system, though, would be getting writing and artwork that's appropriate, accurate, and, well, good. I haven't been super impressed by attempts in the past, but am hopeful something will come out someday.

ETA: This reminded me that I haven't actually gotten a copy of Heartquest yet. I'm rectifying that as we speak(thank goodness for DTRPG) so future opinions will be better-informed instead of going on second-hand info(a lot of secondhand info, as I remember a lot of the conversations on other sites when Heartquest was new, but secondhand info nonetheless).

Quote from: GeekEclectic;317981It would certainly grab  my attention. I <3 shoujo!

Just out of curiosity, are you an eleven-year-old girl in real life?

'cause if you're not, you're seriously setting off my squick sensors.

Quote from: GeekEclectic;317987I dunno. I think a shoujo RPG would be great. I remember a little game named Heartquest, but it wasn't exactly as good an implementation of the FUDGE system that it could have been(and the artwork wasn't good enough, honestly).

There are a number of systems now with good mechanics for making interpersonal relationships typical to shoujo manga important to your chances of success . . . but I'm not sure d6 is one of them. I have the d6 Fantasy and Space books, and it's ok but it's not blowing my mind. Primetime Adventures is great for all kinds of TV shows, but it's not open. FATE would be a natural choice -- kind of a HeartQuest Plus is how I'd envision such a game. Or even something like Tim Kirk's "Hearts & Souls" or the PDQ system, where you can take damage to your relationships, which can then symbolize things like "I broke a prior engagement because I was too busy fighting evil, but I have a secret identity to maintain so I just have to let so-and-so be mad at me" and stuff like that.

More important than the system, though, would be getting writing and artwork that's appropriate, accurate, and, well, good. I haven't been super impressed by attempts in the past, but am hopeful something will come out someday.

ETA: This reminded me that I haven't actually gotten a copy of Heartquest yet. I'm rectifying that as we speak(thank goodness for DTRPG) so future opinions will be better-informed instead of going on second-hand info(a lot of secondhand info, as I remember a lot of the conversations on other sites when Heartquest was new, but secondhand info nonetheless).

lol damage to relationships. That's a great idea.

I don't have any kids yet but we hang out with a bunch of couples who's daughters are at the age we're talking about.  I was not surprised to learn that many girls are looking for the same thing as boys when it comes to RPGs and (by extension) boardgames.  They want to roll dice, kill things, take their stuff and advance in levels.

I would guess that the only thing that could get in the ways would be the rules.  Be it too complex or just something that isn't straightforward enough.  Just like with anything, I don't think an RPG aimed at girls has to have fluffy animals, anime or any of that stuff.  It could but it would simply appeal to those girls already interested in those things.

Maybe instead of miniatures, they could have little pink Lego girls, with pages of the little Colorform cling decals with various outfits and accessories, with they would roll for on a random table.

Quote from: The Shaman;318033Just out of curiosity, are you an eleven-year-old girl in real life?

28-year-old guy. :hatsoff:

Quote'cause if you're not, you're seriously setting off my squick sensors.

If liking Fushigi Yuugi and Escaflowne squicks you out, well, too bad for you.

Quote from: JCrichton;318052I don't have any kids yet but we hang out with a bunch of couples who's daughters are at the age we're talking about.  I was not surprised to learn that many girls are looking for the same thing as boys when it comes to RPGs and (by extension) boardgames.  They want to roll dice, kill things, take their stuff and advance in levels.

I would guess that the only thing that could get in the ways would be the rules.  Be it too complex or just something that isn't straightforward enough.  Just like with anything, I don't think an RPG aimed at girls has to have fluffy animals, anime or any of that stuff.  It could but it would simply appeal to those girls already interested in those things.

Roleplaying games would be a killer way for all these concerned educators to get girls interested in math.

Frankly, I think roleplaying already has lots of traits that would make it plenty appealing to girls.  They are, after all, just fairy stories played out with friends.  

It's just that RPGs were invented by fat white nerds, and by and large are still mostly played by fat white nerds.  And no magic new game is going to change that.  The only thing that will change that is when all the fat white nerds die, and its more the hip young geeks like we see on TV all the time these days.

Girls like D&D. They just don't like fucking weirdoes. Sadly, the two often combine.

Oh and Vampire brought in a lot of girls and I don't think the game was ever marketed for them.

Something to think about.

Quote from: DeadUematsu;318174Girls like D&D. They just don't like fucking weirdoes. Sadly, the two often combine.

Oh and Vampire brought in a lot of girls and I don't think the game was ever marketed for them.

Something to think about.

Exactly.

Although, Vampire did have the "Anne Rice knockoff" thing going at the time.  And girls did like Anne Rice.

But I don't think being a knockoff of a famous girlie book is enough to magically bring bajillions of nubile young women to the hobby.  After all, Vampire also did quite a lot on it's own too.

Given some recent experiences, were I feeling uncharitable, I might suggest the focus on political drama and being a backstabbing cunt was probably more of a selling point.  

Quote from: GeekEclectic;318089If liking Fushigi Yuugi and Escaflowne squicks you out, well, too bad for you.

If you were a tweenage girl who liked them, I wouldn't bat an eye.

But yes, a twenty-eight year-old man who's into shojo manga strikes me as a little weird, honestly.

And in this crowd, that's sayin' something.

Because of this thread I just remembered an overheard conversation at the gamestore......

A mom and her two kids were in the store browsing. I vaguely remember chatting with them briefly about D&D and roleplaying. my memory is a little foggy - 'cuz this happened during a crowded holiday season.

Turns out the Dad that wasn't shopping with them sometimes runs D&D and the two kids get to play along.
The girl said "I like it 'cuz I get to hurt my brother and get away with it. " (She meant in game)
Her brother gave her a dirty look.


- Ed C.

Quote from: The Shaman;318194But yes, a twenty-eight year-old man who's into shojo manga strikes me as a little weird, honestly.

And in this crowd, that's sayin' something.

Oh, no! Someone thinks I'm a little weird. My world shatters.

I don't know; Vampire's/WW's success owed a great deal to its coming in at exactly the right moment to ride the crest of the wave of a shitload of related-fads that were popular among adolescents and college kids: Rice's Vampire stories, Goth culture hitting the mainstream, and Wicca becoming hip.

I could see a game today becoming huge riding a similar wave based on some other combination of literature/film + fashion/music fad + new age fad.

A few years ago I would have said that Harry Potter would have had a great chance; today it might be Twilight. But as you can see, that's only one part of the formula. I'm not hip enough to really be able to know these days what the other parts would be.

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So Twilight . . . emo stuff . . . and the only current religious fad I can think of off the top of my head is the whole emerging/emergent church thing. But that would more likely clash with the whole pseudo-Mormonism of Twilight than complement it. Such convergences are beyond our ability to predict, I suppose.