Quote from: Claudius;562569Cultural marxism.

B.T.? Is that you?

Quote from: One Horse Town;562589Yeah, like we need another thread derailed.

Apologies, I'll drop the subject.

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;562590'choked with libera;s and cultural marxists'? Bill O Reilly plays DnD, who'da thunk it!

GIve us some evidence of the existence of the 'activist swine' and why they are a bad thing, please.

I'm 100% positive that, if I gave you the evidence you're asking for, you would dismiss it, whatever I say, so I won't waste my precious time.

Quote from: The Butcher;562599B.T.? Is that you?

No, it's me, Claudius.

Quote from: Claudius;562600Apologies, I'll drop the subject.


I'm 100% positive that, if I gave you the evidence you're asking for, you would dismiss it, whatever I say, so I won't waste my precious time.

There's only one way to find out, but since you've chickened out we'll never know. I call that the Pundit Defence.

Not much of a discussion if you only intend to contribute to threads where you think people will only ever agree with you.

You have no evidence. Your talk of cultural marxism and liberal conspiracies is risible.

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;562654There's only one way to find out, but since you've chickened out we'll never know.

I find the notion that people are "out to destroy the hobby" risible.

That being said, I do concur that nutjobs, be they left-wing or right-wing, hipsters or catpissmen, can and often do damage the hobby's image, and I think it's absolutely OK to mock these people. Mockery is a powerful and effective mechanism of social control.

But the notion of a "conspiracy", cultural Marxist (seriously? I thought we agreed that we were at war with [strike]Eurasia[/strike]Postmodernism) or otherwise, is tinfoil-hat material. It too smacks of paranoia borne of self-importance. Wake up, people. We're adults playing pretend with funny dice and wargamey rules. We don't command this sort of attention or importance.

Arguing that RPG.net isn't filled with liberals is like arguing that a hive isn't buzzing with wasps.  Just give it a shake and find out for yourself.

"The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he did not exist."

Quote from: Azure Lord;562659Arguing that RPG.net isn't filled with liberals is like arguing that a hive isn't buzzing with wasps.  Just give it a shake and find out for yourself.

and that's bad because...?

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;562661and that's bad because...?

Nothing, as long as you like cosmopolitan fascists.  That has nothing to do with the actual argument, in which you posited that RPG.net was not actually filled with progressives and socialists.
 

Quote from: The Butcher;562657I find the notion that people are "out to destroy the hobby" risible.

That being said, I do concur that nutjobs, be they left-wing or right-wing, hipsters or catpissmen, can and often do damage the hobby's image, and I think it's absolutely OK to mock these people. Mockery is a powerful and effective mechanism of social control.

But the notion of a "conspiracy", cultural Marxist (seriously? I thought we agreed that we were at war with [strike]Eurasia[/strike]Postmodernism) or otherwise, is tinfoil-hat material. It too smacks of paranoia borne of self-importance. Wake up, people. We're adults playing pretend with funny dice and wargamey rules. We don't command this sort of attention or importance.

I suppose I spoke in haste--there are people with an interest in fundamentally transforming the hobby.

Quote from: Azure Lord;562663Nothing, as long as you like cosmopolitan fascists.  That has nothing to do with the actual argument, in which you posited that RPG.net was not actually filled with progressives and socialists.
 

No, I asked you what the problem with the people you've already gone out of your way to malign actually was. I'm still waiting for an answer that's not an ad hom load of bollocks.

Quote from: Azure Lord;562663I suppose I spoke in haste--there are people with an interest in fundamentally transforming the hobby.

Which is an entirely different statement.

Your evidence of these people is...?

And while you're at it, what on the blue earth is a cosmpolitan fascist?

No, you halfwit, you said that RPG.net was not filled with leftists (or at least implied it by challenging that claim).  It is self-evidently so, as demonstrated with repeated forum dramagasms around pet liberal causes (feminism, racism, sexism, social justice, etc.).  When I retorted that RPG.net was clearly full of liberals (unless you're blind, willfully ignorant, or trolling), you changed your argument to WELL SO WHAT IF IT IS.

As I said, there's nothing wrong with it if you like fascistic, ban-happy hugboxes filled with people who won't shut the fuck up about their political hobbyhorses.  It is less pleasant when you realize you're dealing with a group of spineless, thin-skinned manchildren.

Now, if you be so kind as to stop blathering and drop this stupid tangent, it would be much appreciated.  As I recall, this thread is about Swine, not how terrible everyone on RPG.net is.

Quote from: Azure Lord;562671Now, if you be so kind as to stop blathering and drop this stupid tangent, it would be much appreciated.  As I recall, this thread is about Swine, not how terrible everyone on RPG.net is.

There's a Venn diagram intersection here somewhere...

Quote from: Azure Lord;562671No, you halfwit, you said that RPG.net was not filled with leftists (or at least implied it by challenging that claim).  It is self-evidently so, as demonstrated with repeated forum dramagasms around pet liberal causes (feminism, racism, sexism, social justice, etc.).  When I retorted that RPG.net was clearly full of liberals (unless you're blind, willfully ignorant, or trolling), you changed your argument to WELL SO WHAT IF IT IS.

I don't think there is anything wrong with getting rid of the -isms, or being liberal as such (Or even being conservative; I think most people would have views on both sides of that divide, if they were being honest). It makes much more sense to me than having to check someone's personal quirks before deciding how to deal with them, and working out ways to justify differing treatment to yourself.

I mean, if someone's a dick, they can fuck off; I think we can keep dick-ism, that's an okay prejudice. But if they're gay or black or a woman or own ferrets or are allergic to the colour purple or something, why should anyone care? It's not hurting anyone.

No, the problem isn't that rpg.net is full of liberals. The problem is that it's full of shitheads who won't fucking shut up and won't take anything less than complete, unquestioning acceptance of their cause; who will pick on minor, insignificant details and claim those prove that you're a terrible person; who will accuse you of vile things, and then accuse you of derailing when you ask what they're talking about; whose first presumption in an argument is "you are a terrible person and guilty of everything you have been accused of, because nobody ever uses accusations of -isms to further their own personal grudges"; who intentionally drive away people who don't agree with them enough.

They don't want to discuss, because they're already right, as far as they think. They want to order and control, not educate and improve.

I'm on neither side. Both are right about some things, and both are utterly wrong about others.

Quote from: Azure Lord;562671No, you halfwit, you said that RPG.net was not filled with leftists (or at least implied it by challenging that claim).  It is self-evidently so, as demonstrated with repeated forum dramagasms around pet liberal causes (feminism, racism, sexism, social justice, etc.).  When I retorted that RPG.net was clearly full of liberals (unless you're blind, willfully ignorant, or trolling), you changed your argument to WELL SO WHAT IF IT IS.

As I said, there's nothing wrong with it if you like fascistic, ban-happy hugboxes filled with people who won't shut the fuck up about their political hobbyhorses.  It is less pleasant when you realize you're dealing with a group of spineless, thin-skinned manchildren.

Now, if you be so kind as to stop blathering and drop this stupid tangent, it would be much appreciated.  As I recall, this thread is about Swine, not how terrible everyone on RPG.net is.

I said nothing of the kind. I didn't even challenge the claim. I asked why it was a problem. If you don't like that these awful liberal people use rpg.net then by all means don't use it. Or better yet, whine about it here.
You keep throwing ad homs out as weird turns of phrase yet I have no idea what the fuck any of them mean. I can guess, but I suspect it will both lead to more of the same, as well as confirm your ridiculous bias.
The fact that rpg.net is ban happy has nothing to do with being a liberal and everything to do with moderators being a clique of muppets. You've decided to get on your high horse about liberals and I really can't udnerstand why. Is there a reason why questioning this warrants abuse, or do you feel obliged to be rude to everyone that questions you?