Quote from: Mistwell;562009That's nonsense man.  People can believe in a heartfelt manner what they're writing, and still be both wrong and assholes.  There need be no grand plan behind it, and there almost never is.  Occam's razor is your friend.  Don't make it more complicated that it really is.

Well, I guess we'll see.

I was going to dismiss the concept of Swine off-hand, but I am changing my opinion, especially with regard to Activist Swine.  Ettin--you know, the same poster who sparked the Desborough flamewar--has made a thread about how Golarion is totally racist.  I guess he hopes the social justice sycophants will take umbrage to Paizo's existence.

So maybe there is something to be said that, yes, there are people out there who are interested in destroying the hobby.

We know all about Ettin. We are lovers doncha know?

Quote from: Azure Lord;562483So maybe there is something to be said that, yes, there are people out there who are interested in destroying the hobby.

Say rather "people driven by their beliefs to do things that will destroy the hobby". It isn't their goal, but it's what they might achieve.

(And this isn't limited to RPG's. Similar forces are at work in other forms of popular culture, in academia, and in other places.)

Quote from: Daddy Warpig;562507Say rather "people driven by their politics to do things that will destroy the hobby". It isn't their goal, but it's what they might achieve.

(And this isn't limited to RPG's. The same ideas and people are at work in other forms of popular culture, in academia, and in other places.)

Democrats. Yep I gotcha. Interesting tidbit for the drones. Did you know that today's Replublican's are actually the Democratic Party before the progressive movement corrupted it all.

Quote from: Marleycat;562512Democrats. Yep I gotcha.

Sorry? I believe the exact term under discussion was "activists". Sure, some are leftists.

But others aren't. I can't remember names, but there's that infamous Christian cartoonist, the lady from the 80's who lost her son, and others I've probably missed.

Activists, or anyone else who demands you comport to their beliefs, can hijack and destroy pretty much any institution. RPG's included.

Quote from: Marleycat;562512Democrats. Yep I gotcha. Interesting tidbit for the drones. Did you know that today's Replublican's are actually the Democratic Party before the progressive movement corrupted it all.

I think it best if we avoid talking political parties.  Given that I hold both in contempt, I don't really have a dog in the R-vs.-D fight, but I foresee a forum meltdown should this line of conversation continue.

Quote from: Daddy Warpig;562516Activists, or anyone else who demands you comport to their beliefs, can hijack and destroy pretty much any institution. RPG's included.

And do so under the impression that they are protecting and fostering the institution. The issue isn't political affiliation, it's zealotry.

Zealotry is destructive, no matter what beliefs one subscribes to. They can be true or false, and unheeding zealotry can make of them something toxic.

Quote from: Azure Lord;562483I was going to dismiss the concept of Swine off-hand,

You should

Quote from: Azure Lord;562483but I am changing my opinion,

You shouldn't.

Quote from: Azure Lord;562483So maybe there is something to be said that, yes, there are people out there who are interested in destroying the hobby.

There aren't.

This hobby has survived magic the gathering, pokemon, world of warcraft, the d20 bubble, it isn't in any danger from 'swine'. The only place where people believe that nonsense is here. Nowhere and noone else remotely cares what game you play, what game you might even have written or whether it passes the Story Game test and remains Galadriel.

Seriously, do yourself a favour and do not fall for one man's sad little crusade. In all the years the RPGPundit (a name that sounds like a Korean sports commentator) has been touting his intellectual credentials, he has achieved precisely nothing.

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;562559*snip the bs* the RPGPundit (a name that sounds like a Korean sports commentator) *snip more bs*.

I really lol'd at this one.

아피지 픈디트!

If you  can't read that, it's because it's in korean... it sounds like 'Ah-pee-jee Punditu!'

Quote from: Azure Lord;562483I was going to dismiss the concept of Swine off-hand, but I am changing my opinion, especially with regard to Activist Swine.  Ettin--you know, the same poster who sparked the Desborough flamewar--has made a thread about how Golarion is totally racist.  I guess he hopes the social justice sycophants will take umbrage to Paizo's existence.

So maybe there is something to be said that, yes, there are people out there who are interested in destroying the hobby.

I'm not surprised at all, rpg.net is choked with liberals and cultural marxists. Woe betide you if you post on a "social justice" thread and you're not one of them.

I don't agree with everything the Pundit says, but regarding the activist swine, he's spot on.

Quote from: Daddy Warpig;562507(And this isn't limited to RPG's. Similar forces are at work in other forms of popular culture, in academia, and in other places.)

Cultural marxism.

Quote from: Marleycat;562512Democrats. Yep I gotcha. Interesting tidbit for the drones. Did you know that today's Replublican's are actually the Democratic Party before the progressive movement corrupted it all.

Again, cultural marxism. This is not a phenomenon exclusive of the USA, it happens in a lot of European countries.

Quote from: Claudius;562569Again, cultural marxism. This is not a phenomenon exclusive of the USA, it happens in a lot of European countries.

Oh yeah there's plenty of it over here. In fact they've served a very effective role at suppressing dissent in my home country - every time someone marches in protest, they show up and try to hijack the whole thing. As a result nobody holds marches anymore as nobody wants to be associated with the clammy handed rejects, to their eterrnal puzzlement. Not quite the revolutionary influence they had hoped for.

To that kind of mindset however, which sees their one problem as being a nail, and lacking a hammer try to use everything else to batter it in, you can well imagine how a hobby that causes people to step outside their own minds and see things from a fresh perspective would be of interest to these types.

As pathetic as it may seem, they simply view it as another tool for entryism along with a wide variety of other laughable tricks which only make them even less popular since the assumption that people are generally stupid enough to fall for them is wrong. This ain't the nineteenth century anymore ya dumb clucks.

Quote from: Marleycat;562512Democrats. Yep I gotcha. Interesting tidbit for the drones. Did you know that today's Replublican's are actually the Democratic Party before the progressive movement corrupted it all.

At least there's a difference between your major parties. The main UK parties are basically identical these days, save colour.

Yeah, like we need another thread derailed.

Quote from: Claudius;562569I'm not surprised at all, rpg.net is choked with liberals and cultural marxists. Woe betide you if you post on a "social justice" thread and you're not one of them.

I don't agree with everything the Pundit says, but regarding the activist swine, he's spot on.


Cultural marxism.


Again, cultural marxism. This is not a phenomenon exclusive of the USA, it happens in a lot of European countries.

'choked with libera;s and cultural marxists'? Bill O Reilly plays DnD, who'da thunk it!

GIve us some evidence of the existence of the 'activist swine' and why they are a bad thing, please.