Quote from: Hrugga;1018042I have just ordered the hardcover!!! Can't wait till it's in hand. Reconquista viva!!!

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Thank you very much!  Please share the link with your friends on social media, if you can. I appreciate your purchase, and please let me know what you think of the game when you have it.

Congrats Pundy!

Whether it was incompetence or malice, the swift return to the top 10 is great news!

Quote from: Spinachcat;1018072Congrats Pundy!

Whether it was incompetence or malice, the swift return to the top 10 is great news!

Well, we're not quite there yet. Right now we're still hovering at #11.  So please keep sharing the link to L&D on your social media, and if you've read it hype it up if you liked it!

Quote from: RPGPundit;1017928Reason 521: People always argue "but you can't have real magic & real miracles & faeries & monsters and still have cultures that look anything like the real middle ages!"
I always answer: "If you don't have ALL that stuff, whatever you've made won't look anything like the real middle ages."

That's actually a good point. The average person thought they were living in a world with all that stuff. If there was a unicorn spotted last summer then all you're changing is that you can actually find it, but you're not making a massive change to average peasant's idea of the world.

Bought the hardcover and currently using it.

Quote from: Séadna;1018084That's actually a good point. The average person thought they were living in a world with all that stuff. If there was a unicorn spotted last summer then all you're changing is that you can actually find it, but you're not making a massive change to average peasant's idea of the world.

Bought the hardcover and currently using it.

Anybody ever watch the news, read magazines or newspapers, or talk to the people around you? We still live a world full of credulous people who think they have seen a ghost, tracked bigfoot, been abducted by spacemen, have secret societies monitoring their phone calls and e-mails, and pray to sky gods. Nothing has changed except our technology and scapegoats.

Quote from: Dumarest;1018090Nothing has changed except our technology and scapegoats.

Personally I'm not so sure. Depends on the part of the world. In most of the world, from what I've read of medieval society, things are quite different. I can continue this in pm or the general Lion & Dragon thread.

Quote from: Séadna;1018084That's actually a good point. The average person thought they were living in a world with all that stuff. If there was a unicorn spotted last summer then all you're changing is that you can actually find it, but you're not making a massive change to average peasant's idea of the world.

Bought the hardcover and currently using it.

Glad to hear it! And welcome to theRPGsite!

Please let me know how you're using L&D if you like, and please please keep sharing the link to it on your social media. We're still lingering at #11 right now.

Quote from: Dumarest;1018090Anybody ever watch the news, read magazines or newspapers, or talk to the people around you? We still live a world full of credulous people who think they have seen a ghost, tracked bigfoot, been abducted by spacemen, have secret societies monitoring their phone calls and e-mails, and pray to sky gods. Nothing has changed except our technology and scapegoats.

On the one hand, I agree that our modern world is not nearly as coldly rationally positivist as people like to believe.

On the other, it's still not the same. Because its one thing for people in 2017 to 'believe' in Bigfoot. It's another thing for people in 1420 to KNOW that the spirits of the dead were real.

That's a difference of paradigm. One thing is belief, particularly beliefs being held by marginal minorities of people, and another is that which is taken for granted by society as a whole and built into the core assumptions of the culture.

Quote from: RPGPundit;1018145Glad to hear it! And welcome to theRPGsite!

Please let me know how you're using L&D if you like, and please please keep sharing the link to it on your social media. We're still lingering at #11 right now.

I've let a good few people know, hope it translates to purchases.

Basically our campaign world (B/X based using retro clones) was full of polytheistic religions like most D&D worlds are, I've used L&D to make a monotheistic faith with accompanying Clerics, powers, as well as other medieval practices. I literally didn't have Astrology, despite it being a medieval mainstay. So, essentially Chapter IV. Planning on bringing in more.

Quote from: Séadna;1018159I've let a good few people know, hope it translates to purchases.

Basically our campaign world (B/X based using retro clones) was full of polytheistic religions like most D&D worlds are, I've used L&D to make a monotheistic faith with accompanying Clerics, powers, as well as other medieval practices. I literally didn't have Astrology, despite it being a medieval mainstay. So, essentially Chapter IV. Planning on bringing in more.

Good stuff! Keep an eye out for the RPGpundit Presents series I'm writing, because about half of it will be Lion & Dragon related stuff.

Quote from: RPGPundit;1018147That's a difference of paradigm. One thing is belief, particularly beliefs being held by marginal minorities of people, and another is that which is taken for granted by society as a whole and built into the core assumptions of the culture.

Yes. IME there's definitely a very big difference between a 21st century middle class young Anglo-American Wiccan who claims to believe in magic, and a 21st century middle class young African who has the rock solid knowledge that witches and magic are real.

Quote from: S'mon;1018274Yes. IME there's definitely a very big difference between a 21st century middle class young Anglo-American Wiccan who claims to believe in magic, and a 21st century middle class young African who has the rock solid knowledge that witches and magic are real.

As far as what?  Neither of them will ever cast or be affected by magic.  One might band together with others and burn a witch when a calf is stillborn, while the other might band together on Twitter to get someone fired because of outrage.

Quote from: CRKrueger;1018293As far as what?  Neither of them will ever cast or be affected by magic.  One might band together with others and burn a witch when a calf is stillborn, while the other might band together on Twitter to get someone fired because of outrage.

I think what he is saying is there is a difference between being an isolated individual who believes something outside of what the vast majority of people in their time and place believe, and being in a place where everyone believes that thing. It doesn't mean it exists, but people behave as though it is true (which isn't to say, the world is affected as though it were true, just people are operating under that assumption). You can really see this first hand if you go to other places where there is widespread belief in the supernatural for example. I am guessing that the 21st century wiccan has some doubts, whereas the person living in a place where belief in witches is the dominant way of viewing the world, would have far fewer doubts . I.E. in the US we don't live in a country where belief in magic is baked into our present-day culture. There is no institution I can go to if I think someone cast a spell on me. But roll back the clock to Puritan New England, and it becomes more likely. Roll it back further to 15th century Europe and belief in magic is clearly baked into the culture (and there are large institutions I can go to if I think someone has cast a spell on me). Without belief in magic you don't have a European Witch craze (and magic didn't have to function for people to act as though it did and burn witches or hang them).

Quote from: CRKrueger;1018293As far as what?  Neither of them will ever cast or be affected by magic.  One might band together with others and burn a witch when a calf is stillborn, while the other might band together on Twitter to get someone fired because of outrage.

A society where everyone knows that witches can make rain fall is going to have a completely different structure than a society where everyone knows that they don't.

Being a normal person who knows that witches exist and can make rain fall is completely different than being a 2017 wiccan who wants to believe that they can make rain fall.
The former is not like the latter.
The former is more like being a 2017 person who knows that gravity exists, or that people can't read each other's thoughts.

It has huge differences in terms of what living in the society is like.

We've crossed streams here, I'll answer this in the Magic/Belief thread.

Now get Dom to make a Dark Albion package.